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Trinity/Whitgift 2019 thread

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enterparentone · 14/12/2018 17:04

Is there a thread yet for parents with kids doing entrance exams in Jan? It's been so helpful looking through previous years threads and now we're going through it I'd love a hand-hold and any advice on what to expect!

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Wobbles21 · 18/01/2019 11:52

Oh and they also organise history trips on Sundays and various English trips to theatres etc. All good fun and not compulsory but it is part of their ‘ keep them busy’attitude. I really doubt if a boy could cope if they required ongoing tutoring to keep up. Easier for some than others especially if you have done languages before - they have 3 languages In Year 7. If they are all new it’s a bit of a shocker

Waterloo · 18/01/2019 11:58

SpaceOpera - my son is a very keen rugby player and yes it's every Sat. I think they run teams A-F and not all are required every weekend but certainly the A and B would be as they have more matches. This weekend and next, no matches but still training at home which is a considerable car run for us. Also playing club rugby on Sun but not every week as too much and you need some down time plus homework is good to do at the weekend otherwise you get behind. They are regularly tested on all subjects and we have already had 2 reports since Sept with 4 grades in each subject however, it keeps them on their toes and undoubtedly must mean the end of year exams are less stressful as they've been continually tested along the way. Homework is fine but boys have to stay on top of it otherwise deadlines can creep up. Boys have to be organised pretty quickly (and so do the parents!).

Waterloo · 18/01/2019 11:59

It's now hockey season so many are playing that on Saturdays and then of course it's cricket. As my boy loves his sport, we are resigned to Sat am training and it's now just part of the week!

BlueandPink12 · 18/01/2019 12:10

SpceOpera, my nephew is also at Trinity and was tutored for two years prior. He is doing well at the moment and does not have any commitments on the weekend (it’s inportant for us, some schools insist on sport during the weekend, but DS has orchestra on Saturday and Choir on Sunday, so we won’t be applying to Dulwich because they want boys to play football during the weekend).

walkingtheplank · 18/01/2019 12:10

DS currently at the sport recall. I doubt strongly that he'll be offered a scholarship but this discussion shows that it would mean quite a commitment. You'd have to be very clear on what you were signing up to!

walkingtheplank · 18/01/2019 12:12

And we're not going to prep him for the interviews. He's quite a sparky boy so I wouldn't want that to not come out because he was trying to remember the right way to answer.

gingershotting · 18/01/2019 12:36

walkingtheplank at may I ask which school
Is your DS currently at sports recal? T or W?

SpaceOpera · 18/01/2019 12:59

Do feel free to skip the long post below and thanks for all the info on weekends.

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Having read Wobbles21’s comment, I feel bad that I may have unnecessarily stressed out anyone by implying that daily prep is necessary for their son.

Since the parents know their boy best, it’s up to each one to devise a strategy, tailored to that child, that will lead to the exam result they desire.

For my son, extensive prepping and daily work were definitely necessary.

Here is how these helped him - not to scrape through or be artificially prepped - but to really develop all those neural connections that ensure a firm base for future learning. The strategy may well be different for your son. But knowing how I learn best (and how similar he is to me) determined my strategy for my son.

Things that he was not doing well that daily 10+ prep corrected:

  • Creative writing was really flat and the plots of his stories were poor. We used the 11-step lifeline method and his writing came on by leaps and bounds. The more he wrote, the more realistic, nuanced and well-plotted his stories became, with great vocab. Often I made him write the story three times from scratch, each time using the 11-step method more effectively.
  • He lost 10-20% of marks by making really silly errors in his best subject, Math. Daily practice with past papers under time constraints reduced them (but did not eliminate them). The amount of marks lost really jolted him into upping his focus.
  • His timed VR tests taught him to work accurately under pressure. He was one of very few who finished the Trinity VR test. I was told he got one of the highest scores they had seen.
  • As a corollary to the above, had I ensured he read classical children’s literature widely for some years before the exam, his comprehension would have been less superficial than it was - he tended to cherry-pick the ‘best fit’ answer from the text rather than understanding the characters’ underlying motives.

I know that my son’s best academic performances come when I immerse him in the subject over a period of time. His understanding - like mine - strengthens with repeated practice, leading to new insights in both English and Math. His problem-solving leapt ahead, so that just before the 10+, he was getting 70% in 11+ Math papers.

My goal was to be in a position where every school he applied for would see him as an outstanding candidate. Since he is under consideration for academic scholarships at both T and W, I feel personally fulfilled that I have read correctly how best he learns, devised the appropriate prep strategy, implemented it even on the days when it was difficult for both of us, and thereby taken him to the exam outcome I desired.

BlueandPink12, here’s wishing you find that same satisfaction using your own method and setting goals specific to your son ! Best of luck x

walkingtheplank · 18/01/2019 15:32

Ginger - he was at T. Good fun apparently.

W assessments aren't until next week and we wouldnt expect a recall - haven't even been contacted about an interview.

gingershotting · 18/01/2019 15:45

walkingtheplank -..sounds great re T sports recall

gingershotting · 18/01/2019 15:47

anyone heard anything re 12 or 13+ W answers? I guess at that stage no news is still good news... trying to calm myself...

walkingtheplank · 18/01/2019 15:56

Ginger - we're not reading too much into the recall. There was still quite a lot of boys there. DS was pleased to have been asked to go back as we've never been that confident of any offers based on his academic level.

There must have been quite a few interviews this week at ether school. How have they been for everyone?

MuMama25 · 18/01/2019 20:14

Has anyone been invited for academic scholarship? It sounds like a new process as he’s invited for entire morning of assessment! Not quite sure what to expect 😯

Loveandlaugh · 18/01/2019 20:51

That's brilliant MuMama25.. well done to your DS! Do you mind me asking for which school?
I'm just so proud that out of 2 exams T & W my DS has been invited for interview at one.. he assured me he did his absolute best.. and that's all I ever ask of him
He was so sad that he had been rejected from one, but all I could say that it was a good 10+ practice and it's what he does about it from now that will show his resilience and mindset.

jasmine372 · 18/01/2019 21:16

This all sounds very scary ! Not looking forward to our turn next year !
Good luck to everyone !

MuMama25 · 18/01/2019 21:42

Thanks loveandlaugh - it’s for W for 11+ and we’re so pleased. We also had a DS doing 10+ who didn’t get an interview at T but does for W and also were so pleased when that came through as he really worked hard for it. Fingers crossed! Was it this way round for you?

Loveandlaugh · 18/01/2019 21:58

Yes MuMama25.. Mr Ramsey explained that about 150 out of the 210 who sat the 10+ are invited back to interview then they take about 60 of those! So all my fingers crossed still feels a long way off! And all the best of luck for yours. I'm there tomorrow x

OlennasWimple · 18/01/2019 23:19

We are still waiting for 13+ news...

For the benefit of lurkers / future potential parents, DS said that the science paper was quite hard but he finished it in good time. The maths paper was trickier than the sample one on their website, but he go through it. He actually enjoyed the English paper (!!!) and was pleased with his story for the second part - he wrote 2 3/4 sides on the three sides provided

walkingtheplank · 19/01/2019 12:56

W've eceived the Whitgift scholarship assessment letter too. Sounds interesting. We were pretty surprised to receive it TBH.

MotherofPirates · 19/01/2019 13:41

Did the academic scholarship letters come post interview (scrabbles at false hope Blush)?

MuMama25 · 19/01/2019 13:42

It’s in lieu of the interview for us

Loveandlaugh · 19/01/2019 14:31

It's all over! 🙌 now for the 3 week wait 🙏

walkingtheplank · 19/01/2019 15:18

Yes, it's in lieu of an interview for DS, but parents still have a 'meeting'. I always babble when I'm nervous Blush

DS had interview at T today - he enjoyed it and it was lucky that he knew the prefect that escorted him to and fro. I meanwhile babbled like an idiot at the HT. Probably blown his chances...

walkingtheplank · 19/01/2019 15:20

LovenandLaugh - I'm envious of you having finished all of the assessments/interviews.

MotherofPirates · 19/01/2019 15:42

Ah okay - thanks both (did think it would be miraculous if DS got anywhere near an academic scholarship). Good luck to both your DSs with it - they must have done really well!

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