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Are we ready for a GCSE’s 2019 thread?

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KittyMcKitty · 28/08/2018 22:59

If so I’m in.

DS (my pfb) will be going into year 11. Mocks after half term. Crossing my fingers for him - needs average point score of 6.5 (across all 10 subjects) to stay for 6th Form.

Anyone else?

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flatmouse · 12/09/2018 16:49

Thanks double, best wishes for your DS also.
Exam was ok, it's done :) She has been told level (fail/pass/merit/distinction) and is happy enough.
Re health, she seems to be improving but still unknown cause and another referral to try to pin it down.

myrtleWilson · 12/09/2018 18:54

Sorry, not been on for ages. hope everyone is doing ok?

DD went back to school at the end of last week and we had an information evening this week about the joys of year 11!

DD has had a knock to her confidence in one of her subjects and really feels like the teacher has no time for her. At parents evening at the end of the last term the teacher was saying he felt DD wasn't reaching her potential. Of course, DD thought he was just saying that as parents were there.
Anyhow, we got a local tutor sorted for alternate weeks during the summer holiday to hopefully enable DD to feel a bit more back in the groove. Annoyingly tutor has been very flakey - last minute cancellation due to house move and then this week they just plain forgot. Hmm

Anyhow, have scrambled around and appear to have found an excellent new tutor (more experience and more expensive) but this will be online rather than face to face in our home. I guess it will probably take a session to feel comfortable talking in that way... (although I did laugh a lot when DD said she didn't like FaceTime - given how much she spends on it with her best friend this seems an unlikely assertion...)

Will catch up with others posts now

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chocolateworshipper · 13/09/2018 18:40

Hi flatmouse! I'm starting to get deja vu. Glad to hear that DD was ok with her result.

myrtle We've a similar evening next week. I hope it's a bit more useful than the one they did 3 years ago for DD1. An evening of "YOU MUST ALL WORK REALLY HARD COS THIS IS DEAD SERIOUS" really isn't what DD2 needs. I hope the tutor works out well. I'm also sniggering at your DD not fancying the idea of using technology to do a tutoring session! I actually think it's a brilliant idea. I might see if there are any science tutors that would do that as there is a genuine shortage of science teachers and tutors round here.

myrtleWilson · 13/09/2018 19:21

Ha! chocolate - the only reason I am not bankrupt is that FT is free (well part of internet package but you know what I mean) I do sometimes wonder what exactly my DD still finds to say to her best friend all evening after a whole day together every single day. But they are touch wood sweet girls and they look out for each other so I can't really complain.

Our next grade sheet (we get them every half term) is going to be different than previous one - they've run the pupils Yellis test from year 10 and a similar test they took in year 7 through the CEM centre to give not a predicted grade but a baseline/or "chances" grade.

So for example a score of 90 on Yellis when put through the analysis shows that 2% who scored 90 will get a 9 at GCSE, 4% will get a 8 etc. The graph will show what the majority who got that same Yellis score got at GCSE (over a 10 year period). This will then sit alongside the teachers predicted grade.

We've not seen this data before so will be interesting but I have had to pre-empt DD to not fall into the mindset that the baseline is a guarantee as I can imagine given her personality she could get quite down on herself. I know as well that for a few of her subjects she really clicked as year 10 progressed so will have to keep reminding her of that...

UnnecessaryFennel · 14/09/2018 20:15

Oh dear, I've messed up already. We've had shouting, door slamming and tears this evening - from both ds and me.

Was happily settling in for a quiet Friday evening, glass of wine, pizza on its way, when I open my phone to find an email from one of ds's teachers saying that he's put ds in detention next week for not completing homework.

I'm afraid I rather lost my rag with ds. We have had three years now of disorganisation, no effort with h/w and general lack of motivation. He promised that he'd turned over a new leaf, yet two weeks into term and already in detention for the same old reasons Hmm

I just get so frustrated, I yell, ds yells, then he cries and says he feels as if the world is going to collapse if he doesn't get good grades, and I backtrack because I worry about him being upset!

Anyone got any tips for handling this stuff better? I can't just retreat to Wine, I'll be in rehab by December!

crunchtime · 14/09/2018 21:27

Do you think he cris and acts as if the end of the world is here because he knows you'll backtrack?

Bekabeech · 14/09/2018 22:20

I also would stand back. Calmly tell him what the consequences of him not working are. Facilitate him getting his work done. Take him to see alternative provision that he'll end up in if he doesn't get the grades.
But I never told my DC off if they had already been punished by school.

You just can't make them work. And if they don't they have to take the consequences.
Now if he struggles I would help as much as possible, but you can't do it for him.
And arguments just mean more time wasted without work being done. It doesn't help anyone.

It's frustrating but you are raising him to be an adult and that means making his own decisions and dealing with the consequences.

UnnecessaryFennel · 14/09/2018 22:33

Yep, you're right of course.

Just so hard sometimes!

crunchtime · 15/09/2018 08:18

God yes-it is really really hard!

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UnnecessaryFennel · 15/09/2018 12:04

Thanks all, some wise words here!

We do already have a framework - ds starts h/w at X time, phone stays downstairs, he even has his own study with all his books and equipment right there so the temptations of x-box etc are out of the way. I check everything that has then been done when I get home from work and I text him to check he's cracking on before I get home. And, to be fair, he has improved somewhat.

The problem is organisation before he gets home. He has a planner in which he is supposed to write everything down; he often doesn't. There isn't any standard online set-up from school wrt to parents being able to check what h/w has been set every night - some teachers might put the info up, many won't. It is simply a case of he forgets to write it down, then forgets he has been given it even if I ask 'do you have philosophy/biology/maths h/w tonight?' and then it doesn't get done.

I ask him what he does in the lesson at the point when the teacher says ' right, tonight's h/w is...' but he just says, I don't know. Maddening.

The really frustrating thing is that in so many other ways he is proactive, self-starting and organised. If it's something he's interested in and wants to do, he's on it. This summer he organised his own job applications and interviews without any input from me at all, he's even got little 'freelance' paid writing jobs that he's sorted himself. He's independent and mature in so many ways except when it comes to subjects he dislikes. I'm hoping that all this does actually bode well for his future, but nevertheless he has to get decent grades in those subjects he dislikes before he can focus on all the stuff he does enjoy!

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Bekabeech · 15/09/2018 13:13

I am fortunate my DCs school was quite strict about getting HW written in planners. My eldest had such struggles that teachers were tasked with writing it for him (otherwise he was unable to write enough to be useful to explain the task). Now they've gone over to an app where all homework is recorded.

If your son is okay with subjects he is interested in then that gives hope for sixth form.

UnnecessaryFennel · 15/09/2018 13:21

Is the school punishment like to be a kick up the bum?

Ha, sadly not! We've been here many, many times before...hence my frustration.

But, I was too hard on him last night. He even told me that yelling at him doesn't actually help him do any better; annoying but of course correct Hmm.

All I can do is keep the frameworks in place, support him and encourage him. The rest is up to him, I guess!

UnnecessaryFennel · 15/09/2018 13:22

Now they've gone over to an app where all homework is recorded

I wish ds's school would do this. It would save so much aggro.

cantkeepawayforever · 15/09/2018 13:31

Does the school have a homework timetable? DC's does, and sticks to it - it wouldn't solve the 'not written in his planner' issue, but it would mean that you would know when he was given homework for each subject, and could tell him to contact a friend to get the details.

Or does he have a friend who is in similar classes, who is willing to text all homework to your DS pro-actively?

cantkeepawayforever · 15/09/2018 13:36

If it is only a small number of subjects, could you e-mail the teachers in question and ask them to send you or DS the homework via e-mail? Obviously that won't work if it's 7 or 8 subjects, but if there are, say, 3 'problem' subjects, they might see it as worthwhile, especially if you explain the steps you have taken at home to encourage homework but which won't work if he doesn't know what the homework is.

pointythings · 15/09/2018 19:46

Well, DD2 managed to leave her half-finished Geography homework in class and had to bodge it on the day. Otherwise so far, so good. SHe's glad to be back in a routine and back with her friends, she had one minor bereavement meltdown and has discovered that she does in fact understand trigonometry, which is great news because she now realises she can list her weaknesses, go to refresher sessions her teacher runs at lunch and get targeted help.

She's also been put in a French enrichment group for those aiming at 8 and 9 and got a ridiculous mark in her end of Yr 10 English writing - marked by 2017 GCSE marking criteria, would have put her at a 9. So all in all a good start.

She has mocks in November and February and has started revising steadily. I don't think relaxing over the summer will have done her any harm - quite the reverse.

justforareply · 16/09/2018 08:36

DD doing quite well so far during the week but her weekends are busy and I'm concerned that she only did 20 mins of work (with me) yesterday. She went to birthday do last night and has volunteering and a concert today.
Most of yesterday was a school open day which she'll apply to for sixth form boarding and another to visit on Wednesday.
She loathes her current school and her out of school friends have noticed she's not as cheery as she was in summer now she's back at school 😢
So weekdays 3 hours of work in evenings - homework and extra revision. She has online 'tutor' (friend who has done A levels this year) in maths and will see how the rest of the time pans out

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OlderThanAverageforMN · 16/09/2018 14:43

Soursprout - Isn't it interesting how different schools approach these Eng exams. DD only started covering exam work in Year 10, and has covered, so far, the novel and the poems for Lit and Reading for Lang. They have literally just started Macbeth for Lit and are now covering Writing for Lang. Looking at the mix of schools and pupils and indeed results, I wonder which approach is best. Is it better to spend more time covering the exam curriculum, is doing early exams a good or bad thing. Do the DC's get bored if they start too early, what is the benefit, if any, of early exams, is it wise to leave topics untouched until the last year etc etc Or actually, in the end, does it actually make little difference.

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Zoflorabore · 16/09/2018 23:02

Hi all :) having a traumatic time chez zoflo and thought it would be cathartic to write it down.

So ds is doing drama and has already done his set piece at the very end of year 10.
The drama syllabus changed so it's now 30% practical and 70% writing. Ds is struggling so badly.

He is a very talented actor and did amazingly well in his roles in the play.
His teacher gave them a devising log which has approx 25 questions on it which is to be submitted for examination. It is all about the play, the roles, the themes etc.
Ds knows what he wants to say and relays it to me very well but is struggling to put it into words on the paper. This is common with AS and communication is not his strong point.

I've been so positive with him and said he obviously did well to get his grade 4 in English literature already but he said that is different. His teacher has already given him
10 days extension. Due end of coming week.

Ds is drawing a blank, he's so frustrated and upset with himself and is saying that he wishes he never chose drama etc. His confidence has taken a huge knock this last week or so.

Im going to call school tomorrow and ask his drama teacher to call me.
Ds says he thinks she is unaware he has AS but knows he is clearly struggling.
Ds hates any sort of "special treatment" but said he does want me to call her as this piece has to be perfect and he is just not
working to his best.
Ds has got right through secondary school with zero intervention, he's never needed it. Until now.

I just can't sit back and do nothing. We're all suffering in the house as the mood is palpable. Whilst I'm being sympathetic, I'm also massively frustrated with him but can't show him that and I feel guilty for being frustrated with him but it's because he's got so little faith in his abilities.

Wow that was long but I needed to get it down. This thread is proving to be a lifeline for us all and I can see myself ageing ten years by next summer Grin

Night ladies, hope all of the teens are doing well.

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