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End of Year Assesments - short notice

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BackInTime · 08/06/2018 07:15

DS was told this week that they would be end of year assessments in 2 subjects next week. The assessments will cover all topics for the entire school year. Just wondering how much notice other schools give as this seems pretty short notice to me to cover so much work?

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Ggirl27 · 09/06/2018 11:24

I obviously don't think that GCSEs should be done without revision because they are standardised tests that give results you take with you through the rest of your life.

In my experience end of year assessments can vary between a full on test, to a worksheet, to a verbal exam and vary between subject, teacher and school. I would expect a good teacher to determine a child's ability from the work they have done throughout the year not on one test which is probably only being done to get them used to all the tests they'll have to face in their coming years!

Will happily agree to disagree Flowers

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blackeyes72 · 09/06/2018 11:46

Both my children's schools give notice from the beginning of the calendar year, so everyone knows that the week after half term is assessment week for the whole school.

My dd1 has been revising for a month and still hasn't made it through all subjects thoroughly, but I think the idea is to learn revision styles/skills so when it comes to gcse's it won't be a shock.

I must admit all her friends revise in this way, from the super able to the least able, so I don't think not revising is an option for her, and it's really frowned upon if you say you haven't revised!!!!

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pieceofpurplesky · 09/06/2018 11:50

I am sure that the pupils will have some form of revision and preparation in class. Schools I have taught in always do.

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BackInTime · 10/06/2018 08:49

Thanks for all of your comments. I think from reading these all schools approach these tests in different ways and the importance of the results vary. FWIW at DS school the test is a proper exam paper on all the topics this year and it is sat by all students in the school year. Setting for next year is based on the results and this could also have a bearing on whether they sit foundation or higher maths for example depending on how they do. So the tests are pretty important and more notice would have been better but hey ho that’s schools for you.Hmm

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aracena · 11/06/2018 23:45

We’re going through this in Year 8. Last week we got an email to say that this week and next week there will be 2 exams which will decide whether students do double or triple science for GCSE (it’s a 3 year KS4 school). I think this is rather unfair. I am a teacher myself and am sympathetic about schools doing things at the last minute but then why make the stakes so high?

DS may very well not end up doing triple science which doesn’t bother him or me but this assessment will also decide which set he gets in for GCSE and that does bother me because I know what behaviour can be like in lower sets.

A little more notice would have been appreciated. We knew he had assessments in June. We assumed they’d be at the end like last year so had started some revision at half term but are now trying to cram a whole year’s work into 10 days...also today we got notice of more assessments with it seems a week’s notice in French and Maths, although those dates are less clear...and DS as usual is a vague as ever...I suppose it’s all good practice for exams later on but it would have been a better and more motivating learning experience for him with more notice.

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TeenTimesTwo · 12/06/2018 08:14

but it would have been a better and more motivating learning experience for him with more notice

Precisely.

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BackInTime · 12/06/2018 08:52

I agree. DS is feeling very overwhelmed and panicked by having such a lot to do at once. Lots of talk of ‘I’m just going to fail’. A week of cramming is not really a good exercise in how to plan and structure revision.

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TeenTimesTwo · 14/06/2018 08:53

Well, I've sent DD in today with a pocketful of revision cards as she has 3 tests - History, Science AND Maths. Shock

I have also sent in 2 bottles of Coca-Cola (other brands available) in the hope that the caffeine and sugar will help her keep going Grin. She struggles with school at the best of times and gets extra time for tests, so it is going to be a very heavy day. She actually knows the maths quite well, but I'm not holding out much hope as I think by 2pm when it starts she'll be shattered.

But it has been good practice in doing focussed work and revision at home.

Best wishes to any other y7s/y8s with tests this week or next.

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MrsScrubbingbrush · 14/06/2018 11:57

We're just getting to the end of DD1's Yr 7 exams - she's will have had 23 separate exams over a 2 week period. She's totally exhausted and finding it hard to maintain the momentum of revising/sitting the exam.

I think its ridiculous, she's in state secondary school albeit an 'outstanding' one.

Her twin sister is at a different school (still OFSTED outstanding) but will only have 11 exams over 7 days based on the core subjects of maths, English, science,history, geography, technology and MFL.

To me, this makes much more sense!

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TeenTimesTwo · 14/06/2018 12:04

23 ? TWENTY-THREE ?? Year 7?

That's ridiculous!

Is that a selective school? My DD wouldn't manage that. She has 7 this week and 2 next week and that is bad enough!

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MrsScrubbingbrush · 14/06/2018 12:23

Teen its not a selective school just an state secondary. It's always oversubscribed and is very highly thought of.

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MrsScrubbingbrush · 14/06/2018 12:27

Her exams have included drama (2), DT theory & practical, music, art (2) and PE as well as the core subjects.

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TeenTimesTwo · 14/06/2018 12:49

Wow!

I can see a logic in it, but I would have thought this would be too much for a number of DCs, some of whom will be only age 11.

How much revision do you reckon she has done for them?

DD has had 2 for English, then 1 for each of Maths, Science, History, Geography, RE, French, Drama.

We have done targeted revision, with core subjects getting most time, then most of the rest. But French has been more or less written off due to a variety of factors. (The phrase flogging a dead horse comes to mind.)

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Floottoot · 14/06/2018 13:01

My year 7 DS will have had English, maths, 3x Spanish, Latin, history, geography, science, RS, music, art and computer science exams this week.
Thankfully, he's quite bright with a good memory, so it hasn't been too stressful, but it still seems like a lot for children who left primary school less than a year ago.

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MrsScrubbingbrush · 14/06/2018 13:10

Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic school & DD is very happy there (or at least she was until exam weekWink)

We revised Maths,English & French over the half term. Thankfully her Geography & History knowledge was good so didn't need much revision. Drama, music & games she did little revision for as there wasn't much she could do. We practised the food tech recipes for the practical over the weekend. Science & Latin she really enjoys so we're just doing some more last minute revision tonight for the exams tomorrow.

TBH she probably hasn't done enough revision but it was a fine line between encouraging her and pushing too hard so that she had a meltdown.

She's coped brilliantly but it's been hard to see her so tired.

We now have a week off until DD2 starts her examsConfused

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MrsScrubbingbrush · 14/06/2018 13:11

I agree Floot - it certainly makes SATS look like a doddle!

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TeenTimesTwo · 14/06/2018 13:15

I think for my DD it is better to have fewer exams as it means we can focus on the core subjects, which ultimately will do her more good. I am glad her school has the system it has (and still ultimately gets good results).

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MrsScrubbingbrush · 14/06/2018 13:19

Absolutely.

Test them on the core subjects and use their coursework and termly tests to assess their progress in the other subjects.

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BackforGood · 14/06/2018 23:23

In the past they have given at least 3-4 weeks notice.

So, what you are telling us, is that you did know thay have end of year tests / assessments / exams. You have repeated several times what they use them for, and how important you feel they are, so, surely, as you are aware of all this, then they haven't just got a week's notice - you've known for a long time .

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