Sent a note with daughter and coat still got confiscated

[Lionness2020]

My daughter started in Year 7 BullersWood on Wed 6th Sept.
She came home after her first day excited to show me her new books and weekly planner. We sat down together to read through it, I had to sign parent/teacher contract and then we went on to read the school policies and rules.
Whilst reading I came to realize that now I need to buy my daughter a black coat! This isn't an issue....I will buy a black coat ( I just need some time to do this).
She left for school on Thursday with her current coat (purple I might add, I know its bright, but it was that or pink!) and I sent a note with her explaining the situation to giver to her teacher, my daughter got to the school gates and took her coat off and put it in her bag and never gave the note in I found out later that evening....my assumption here is that she was scared she may get disciplined or that it was a hot day and she didn't need a coat.
Come Friday morning, its raining and daughter decides she's going to wear the purple coat as it's waterproof (it was raining most of the day on Fri, I think i saw the sun come out around 3oClock), so again I wrote a note for her to hand to the teacher.
Now this is info I have managed to gather from my DD.......She was going into morning registration, as they were filing into class, the headteacher of Yr7 has stopped her about her coat (according to my daughter her office is opposite her form room). So, daughter says she has a note, hands it over, head of year reads it and say "how sweet, I will have to confiscate your coat and you can have it back at the end of the day, as it's breaking school rules".
I was absolutely astounded by this, I can't believe my daughter had no coat to wear during break/lunch on a cold/rainy day!
Where was the health, safety and well-being of my child?
Not a happy mum!
I will be making an appointment to see the headteacher.

Caprianna you are being rather goady.

But perhaps English isn't your first language?

@happypoobum I think I may have touched a teeny wee raw nerve with @Caprianna 😃

Your post about entitled parents being discussed in the staff room is exactly what I am talking about. Its very difficult to be supportive of teachers/school who behave like that

Caprianna what do you think goes on in doctors staff rooms? Or retail staff rooms? Or restaurant staff rooms?

People discuss the interactions they have had with others during the course of their work. It's human nature and can actually be productive and instructional.

MSLehrerin, I am afraid anyone with a bit of ambition can rise to the giddy heights of faculty head today precisely because the calibre of teachers are so poor.
Unless you have a specific calling, most high achievers these days go into the private sector/city/finance. A real shame and teaching should be more competitive to attract the best people.

You may of course be a fantastic inspiring teacher. Your attitude on this thread towards parents though stink of unprofessionalism.

Feel free to correct my grammar if it makes you happy

@Caprianna again, thank you for your feedback. I'm glad you feel you are qualified to comment on the calibrate of teaching staff in schools these days. Please ensure you get on to OFSTED on Monday morning and pass on your evaluation of my career to them in light of you discovering I'm shite because I didn't go into the private sector or finance or somesuchlike. I'm obviously a charlatan who has pulled the wool over the eyes of every HT I've come across and have finally been unveiled on MN by a total stranger.

I'll add your comments to my personal file for future reference. 😂

Your SPAG has got better in subsequent posts btw so I'll pop my red pen back in my pencil case now.

"I don't see how the policy can extend to a coat. That's ridiculous! Why does the school dictate what coat children can wear?"

They're not stopping her wearing it off the premises. Just not allowing someone to wear purple during the school day (it's not even one of the uniform colours).

Cheap black cagoule and /or collapsible umbrella if you can't get to a clothes shop this weekend? It won't be that long before she's refusing to wear a coat anyhow, so you'd definitely get the use from both things.

Unless you have a specific calling, most high achievers these days go into the private sector/city/finance. A real shame and teaching should be more competitive to attract the best people

Most of us high fliers in teaching do it because we want to. I left a "better" career in many respects for teaching. I love it. Equally, I can see why it's not as attractive as other careers. All jobs have their paper work and mundane tasks (it's why I don't bring up workload unless some idiot starts acting like we don't work hard enough/don'r need holidays), but people seem to feel more entitled to atatck teachers and act like they know it all because they went to school. That is draining.

She shouldn't have been sent out in the rain without a coat. It's unkind and unnecessary.

Rules about the colour of the coat are, frankly, bullshit. However, if that's the rules that's the rules.

I don't think OP is unreasonable at all though given that she'd explained the problem. Would the school rather the child didn't attend until she had the right colour coat?

@MaisyPops thank you for your support. I think @Caprianna might be having a bad day. I'm having lots of fun though and could carry on all day. It's like having my Year 8s on a debate!

Have you seen the clip if teenagers at the weekends these days? Why would a school scrap the uniform and be faced with 800 students arse cheeks hanging out the bottom of shorts or a flash of side boob or a pair of joggers slung lower than the wearers ball sack with one leg rolled up?

Not to mention the distraction of everyones ott contouring or rainbow coloured hair being flounced around.

If teenagers could be trusted to follow a basic expectation of dressing appropriatley in a more formal setting then go right ahead. But it is easier and simpler for everyone involved to have a short strict list.

MSLehrinen, is that really your level? I hope you pull your socks up a bit when you meet parents in real life.

Have you seen the clip if teenagers at the weekends these days? Why would a school scrap the uniform and be faced with 800 students arse cheeks hanging out the bottom of shorts or a flash of side boob or a pair of joggers slung lower than the wearers ball sack with one leg rolled up?

Again, we could compromise and have sensible rules, rather than no rules. It's just a suggestion of course but it might end all this worry of the children re-enacting Lord of the Flies if their shoes aren't the exact shade of black they should be.

One does not have to jump from ott policy such as making demands on coats to teenagers wandering around half naked. There is an inbetween.

Sensible rules would be great.
But to send your child off to school without even checking the school rules is just plain stupid.
If a school chooses to have a rule it has to enforce it.
The fault is with the OP.

@Caprianna I really don't know what you mean? 😃 I'm off duty doncha know? Teachers don't eat, sleep and fart school, pedagogy and God knows what else education minded 24/7....

I've had lots of practice at debating topics like this, both personally and professionally. I could keep on all day.

I've also never understood this hair lark. If teachers cannot keep the focus of the class because one student has purple hair or a shaved undercut, then are they really cut out to be a teacher?

I have purple hair. My children still seem to be able to focus on the words coming out of my mouth.

Capriana, you are just being a twat now

I'd be hesitant to buy any coat, chances are she won't wear a coat come October because very few secondary school kids do.

MSLehrinen, you are too funny

Oh, missed happypoobum has already said it.

Bullers wood uniform list from their website clearly says

"black plain, fabric coat with long sleeves. (Large logos, denim, leather, suede, PVC and fur
coats/jackets are not allowed"

It tool a minute to find the information

I know @Caprianna and I'm having fun too. Bring it on. Am loving your banter. It is banter, isn't it? 😉

because the calibre of teachers are so poor.

Your SPAG has got better in subsequent posts btw so I'll pop my red pen back in my pencil case now.

I think you're being generous there, Lehrerin - the calibre of teachers is so poor, surely?

Anyway, I'm against uniform, but if there is a uniform then pupils should be expected to stick to it. And I'm astonished that the parent of a new year 7 child would not check the uniform policy.

Instead of encouraging or tolerating their children breaking the school rules, parents should perhaps start making it clear to schools that they don't like strict and formal school uniforms. Because I think schools think that parents like schools with formal uniforms - they equate it (for sone reason) with good behaviour and strong ethos. Schools want to attract parents (particularly aspirational and supportive ones). Why would they have a strict uniform policy if they didn't think that's what the majority of parents like to see? Or perhaps parents like to see it in a potential school, but don't like to conform to it once their child attends the school?

Oops missed that in my excitement @Eolian 😃 I shall award self a demerit point forthwith and issue self with an after school detention with myself too.

If it helps I am not British. I speak 5 languages fluent but I do make the occasional grammatical mistake. Perhaps ask yourself how many languages you speak before you correct my errors and if you can match me then feel free to laugh of my grammar

@Caprianna three fluently here for me and am learning Spanish and Italian currently. HTH.