School Shoes - Opinions Please - Shoes or Trainers?

[Housemum]

The rules for our local secondary school state:
"No Boots, trainers, sports shoes, plimsolls, fabric or any shoe with sports branding, boots, Uggs, sandals, mules, flip flops, stiletto heels, court shoes"

So are these shoes or trainers? I think they are not trainers as you wouldn't play sport in them (and not made by a trainer brand) and they are called shoes, some of my friends disagree.

This Style

And surely the majority of Velcro shoes on this page of school shoes would also be trainers if this style isn't a shoe?

page of school shoes

Searching here for advice as have asked 6 local mums, the only ones I'm FB friends with who have secondary kids, and they have been divided 50/50 - I like these shoes as they are the only ones to fit well on her narrow feet (and she won't do laces - coordination issues possibly linked to her autism or possibly just laziness!)

Or www.schuh.co.uk/accessories/shoe-accessories/shoe-laces/synch-bands-kids-elastic-black-shoe-laces/7201407070/

Success!! Persuaded her with some lace ups in the end that are narrow

www.shoes2adore.co.uk/petasil-peel-black-school-shoe.html

They look a bit like trainers to me! I'd ask the school before she wears them!

Those look like black converse trainers.

They wouldn't be allowed at my school.

Can’t see the sole but they do look overly flat (no heel) and traineresque.

They'd be trainers at ds1's secondary. The school warns parents to beware of shoes like this because the shops market them as "school shoes" but none of the secondaries round here accept them. Basically, if you have to ask it's not suitable.

Sorry, that post was in reference to your initial link. The latest one would be OK

I can't bear trainer-Esque shoes and like them to be shiny leather that takes polish well to allow them staying smart all year. I have been really pleased with Ecco's more formal school shoes, although they are dear. They definitely last all year.

For a smart Velcro one
www.eccoshoesuk.com/ecco-cohen/p4328

And when my 10-11 year old decides to always wear his laces undone I went for www.eccoshoesuk.com/ecco-cohen/p4329. Which I think are really smart and he thinks are really comfy

And I am afraid I too think those totally look like black leather converses. If the school want them in a classic school shoe with no whiff of trainer, I can't see that flying.

Would she accept the geox Frederico or William from the link in your OP - surely they are proper school shoes?