Is this school govenor's take on Progress 8 scores correct?

[PossumInAPearTree]

Dds school recently had a shocking Ofsted and got put in special measures. Bottom 10% of schools nationwide for progress and results according to the report.

Head has made it clear in emails home and to kids in assembly they disagree with the report, as has the governor.

Governor says the reason for the poor Progress 8 score is because the school has standards and won't pull tricks other schools do such as putting nAtive English speakers in for an English as a Foreign Language qualification purely so the kids get points/ a qualification.

Surely if this is what other schools are doing Ofsted would pick up on this?

They have, by he way, really hidden the coverage data for progress 8 in the latest version of the data.

You have to note the total number of pupils taking GCSE in that cohort.

Then compare 2 or more schools using the comparison tool, which brings up a different view of the data.

Then look at progress8 by subject group. This has a column for number of pupils included in progress8 measure.

Divide this number by the total number of pupils in that cohort, multiply by 100, and you have the percentage. Just as an example, a well-known grammar school has a coverage % of just under 75%, as about 25% of its intake come from private primary schools.

User, what is the % for your school? Your suggestion would be 100%, because you see SATs results being internally assigned to pupils have none - what is it in reality?

Confidence can't make up for ignorance, can it?

Snort!!!! So, you're a teacher, a TA, an examiner, about to be head of sixth form, and now you're a data controller for the DfE?!!!

What an illustrious career you've wished you had....

The whole iniquitous OfSted system has forced this dishonesty on schools.

I am a primary school governor and our school refuses to do what most primaries now do, which is to have Yr 6 children spending a whole term practicing SATs. Our children continue with a rounded education up until the last moment when they see a couple of SATs papers so that they know what they are. We refuse to compromise real education on the altar of assessment. We still get a good rating because the children themselves are so impressive in their confidence and integrity.

It is so wrong that children see blatant cheating going on - what does that teach them?

Parents and governors have struggled with the SATs papers - too much is asked of the children to no purpose whatsoever.

I'm not a teacher, and I am not an examiner. I am a TA. (And a governor)

Spending the whole term practising SATs isn't cheating, it's just hothousing.
Ofsted won't look kindly it though.

Careful Titchy. I got deleted for troll hunting for complimenting User14 on her imaginative CV.

None of what she describes is reliable. On the SATs alone, my dc's results followed them perfectly effectively from the UK to a different continent. Bright but lazy ds currently getting his arse righteously kicked for subsequent indifferent achievement.

Goodness knows where this nonsense of random teenagers invigilating equally random imposter candidates comes from. Reputable exam centres have an exam officer, key chief invigilators, photo id on desks. It's not rocket science.

User, I know that you are currently a TA, in a school that doesn't charge staff for parking.

However you have worked as a teacher, and as an examinations officer/invigilator, and are about to become head of sixth form in a private school? Isn't that right?

I was a teacher for 25 years, i have been a TA for 4 years, in 3 different schools, now I've taken a role as head of sixth form from September.

I've acted as exams officer for the SEN department as part of the TA job.

Yes you were a teacher. Why deny it earlier?

And from your assertion that DfE isn't able to track individual kids comes from what experience exactly?

Quite the leap there from Teaching Assistant to Head of Sixth Form. I assume that your interview did not, in fact, centre around claiming that tracking children's progress is impossible. Something doesn't add up...

because i am not teaching now, I am a TA, I can't be both at once, can I.

Quite the leap there from Teaching Assistant to Head of Sixth Form.

I don't think so

I've been a year head before

Mainstream academic private secondary school with say 100-200+ students per year group? Or something a little different to that?

Still no detail on the Data Controller experience...?

I'm still waiting for the stories from when s/he was a roadie for Cream in the 1960s.

what difference does it make? about 80 per year, quite small

And in the meantime, poor Possum's concerns about her poorly performing school have been sidelined off her own thread...

no they haven't, she asked how prevalent cheating the progress 8 is, I have answered extensively and in depth

Still no detail on the Data Controller experience...?

what do you want me to say? The data is fraudulent, I've told you so

And others have replied, accurately.

So identity data held by the DfE, referenced by UPN, date of birth and pupil name, is fraudulent? Sure?

I asked because work as a TA might be better preparation for, say, leading sixth form in a small SEN or similar school than perhaps head of sixth form at a large mainstream well-known private school....