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Parents in the North need to be more pushy like their Southern counterparts.

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Sixisthemagicnumber · 06/12/2016 07:32

According to the BBC breakfast news a new study has found that parents in the North are not pushy enough with their children's education and they need to be more like Southern parents.
Apparently children in the North are doing less well in Secondary school and this is due to their parents not pushing them hard enough.
They haven't even bothered to take into consideration the vast funding differences between schools in the North and the South Hmm

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Sixisthemagicnumber · 07/12/2016 07:23

mum your post of 21.55 yesterday was specifically to me - you put my name in bold. I'm not making this up.

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Vietnammark · 07/12/2016 07:31

Six

I do agree that whilst PISA results are often interesting and headline grabbing they are not necessarily that relevant to the UK education system. Interesting though that kids in London have historically done less well than kids in the rest of the country in them:

repec.ioe.ac.uk/REPEc/pdf/qsswp1604.pdf

Sixisthemagicnumber · 07/12/2016 07:50

mumtrying that is what you wrote at 21.55 yesterday:

Sixisthemagicnumber just to reiterate my previous point - Do all fee-paying schools do well? How many of them include resits in their results? How many of them actually place their results in the public domain in a way that they can be easily compared to state schools?

It was written to me, with my name attached and only asked things which I have already discussed more than once. I have never said that ALL fee paying schools do well, in fact, I have made it clear that NOT ALL fee paying schools do well. But the stats so show that fee paying schools achieve 5 times more top grades than state schools. When you consider that significantly less pupils attend fee paying schools than state schools I think those statistics are quite remarkable. Identifying one state schools which does very well or a few fee paying no schools which do very badly doesn't change the overall situation.

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MumTryingHerBest · 07/12/2016 08:26

Sixisthemagicnumber perhaps you migh like to include the underlining from my post?

a) How many private school achieve anythig like 5 times more top grades than state schools?
b) How many of those private schools have an entrance exam?

Sixisthemagicnumber · 07/12/2016 08:36

I have already addressed the issue of selection. I made it very clear early in the discussion that alerting in ability was one of the reasons for the better results.
The question about how many schools receive 5x as many top grades i cannot answer because I don't know if that data is published anywhere. But based on the article you linked to yesterday it identifies the overall situation as being 5x more top grades being achieved by students at independent schools.

I am beginning to junk that you have selective reading skills as I keep stating the same things and then you keep asking the same questions as if you have just ignored what I have written.
It doesn't matter how many times you ask the same question, the data will still be the same.

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