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Maths homework showing working out

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Emochild · 17/10/2016 21:54

xxx = 3024

I know the answer is

9x8x7x6=3024

But how the heck does dd show her working?

I thought it was a trial and error question but apparently not and her teacher has told her off previously for not showing working

-all numbers have to be less than 10

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PberryT · 17/10/2016 21:58

Can she break down 3024 into prime factors using the tree?

3024= 3x3x2x2x2x2x3x7 and then the prime factors multiply to get the numbers in the sum. Eg 9 is 3x3

OhYouBadBadKitten · 17/10/2016 21:59

Does the xxx stand for the digits?
She can find the prime factors first of 3024 using something like a prime factor tree then arrange as needed.

Emochild · 17/10/2016 22:00

Sorry, that didn't display properly

?x?x?x?=3024

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 17/10/2016 22:05

ok, once you have the prime factors then you just have to group them into 4 groups so that each multiple is 9 or less.

Emochild · 17/10/2016 22:28

So a cherry tree thingy?

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Emochild · 17/10/2016 22:28

I'm so technical

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 17/10/2016 22:37

in the morning, if no one else has done it I'll sketch it out and take a photo.

Emochild · 18/10/2016 00:11

Thank you

The way dd worked it out was...

'I know 3000 and 24 are both in the 6 times table so that's my first number
3024/6=504
I know 504 is in the 4 times table and the 8 times table
504/8=63
7x9=63

So the numbers must be 6x8x7x9'

Works but long winded and not mathematical enough apparently

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 18/10/2016 08:45

Odd, I'd consider that mathematical enough - though she could have started with I know that 3024 is divisible by 6 because it is an even number and the digits add to a multiple of 3.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 18/10/2016 08:51

here is how I'd do it.

Maths homework showing working out
Emochild · 18/10/2016 18:59

Thank you

No doubt I shall be back next week for more help

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 18/10/2016 19:04
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MooPointCowsOpinion · 18/10/2016 19:07

Her working out is fine to show how she did it, I'd be happy with that.

What did she do wrong before?

The only thing I can think perhaps she was specifically told to relate it to the topic of prime factor decomposition.

Emochild · 18/10/2016 19:13

Nope

No instructions other than what are the numbers

The same homework included compound interest and fractions with negative exponents

So a fun time was had all round!

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Emochild · 18/10/2016 19:14

She was previously told off for not showing her working when the question was

3 to the power of 25= ?

The teacher made her write

3x3x3x3x3...............

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MooPointCowsOpinion · 18/10/2016 19:39

25 3s! Screw that for a laugh!

Mine might write 3 x 3 x 3 ..... X 3 with a small indication that the ... Means a total of 25 times.

That teacher really likes people showing their working.

Emochild · 18/10/2016 21:13

Which is ironic because she gives questions like....

Give the value of (8/27)^-2/3

With no worked examples in their book or a text book to refer to!

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cdtaylornats · 18/10/2016 21:34

3+0+2+4 = 9 so 3024 is divisible by 9

325 = 3535353535 = 243^5 = 847288609443

MooPointCowsOpinion · 19/10/2016 19:11

Emochild that's a grade A indices question.

Has to be done in 3 parts, I'd do 1/3 first (cube root) then 2 then ^-1 (flips the fraction) to get 9/4.

Emochild · 19/10/2016 22:51

Thanks moo and OYBK

I'm guessing you are both maths teachers?

I'm toying with speaking to the school about it but they've recently removed the ability to contact specific departments -you have to email the info@school email and hope it gets through to the right person

Also don't want to piss the teacher off so she takes it out on dd

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