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BTECs at college - Support thread 2

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TeenAndTween · 19/08/2016 11:45

Following on from the 2015 thread to inform and support each other through the ups and downs of BTECs. Mainly aimed at y12/13 level, but BTECs alongside GCSEs more than welcome too. Plus anyone just considering BTECs and wanting information.

What I learned last year:

You have to hit the ground running as the very first piece of work may well count towards your final grade

DD's course has 3 options like this.

Subsidiary Diploma - 9 units (1 year, 9 units (5 units, then 4 more))
Diploma - 12 units total (2 year, 6 units each year)
Extended Diploma 18 units total (2 year, 9 units each year, 5 in first half of year, 4 in second half)

DD is doing the Diploma (2 A level equivalent), but the college ensures that they do all the 4 'compulsory' units in the first year so if someone drops out they can still qualify for the Subsidiary Diploma (1 A level equivalent?).

You pretty much have to pass every single unit in order to pass the whole thing. There are limited opportunities to re-submit, but there are some. The Pass criteria for DD's course are quite straightforward (if you can structure things properly which DD struggles with). The Merit criteria are harder, and the Distinction criteria need a good level of analysis (that DD doesn't have).

Each unit is made up of a number of Pass, Merit and Distinction criteria. To reach each level you have to meet all the criteria at that level. So if on your first assignment for a unit you miss a Merit criteria, you can't get higher than a pass for the unit (as far as I understand).

Each unit gives you a number of Points. For DD mainly it is 70 for a pass, 80 for a Merit and 90 for a Distinction. To Pass the whole thing she would need 12x70 points - 840, equivalent to EE A level grades. To get CC equivalent she needs 920 minimum. To get AA she would need 1000 points.

DD has up to 3 teachers at any time, each teaching a unit. They teach a bit, and then set an assignment. For a week or 2 they don't teach in some lessons and they use the time to get on with the assignment. Then more teaching and second assignment. Around 4 assignments per unit.

What you don't have to do is 'extra' exam practice, question practice etc. So all work is pretty much set. The students don't have to work out extras. (However exactly what is required for some criteria is about as clear as mud, and DD seems to get little/no feedback on assignments to help her improve for future ones. Sometimes there seem to be implicit requirements that DD doesn't catch on about.)

Disclaimer. I don't know if all BTECs are like DD's !

A couple of useful tables for reference:

Table showing UCAS points

A level equivalent UCAS

And finally the Pearson BTEC site from where you can find specs, unit descriptions, and pass/merit/distinction criteria.

(Praying for less of a roller-coaster this year).

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pleasemothermay1 · 01/09/2016 18:29

Any ones child doing a BETEC mine is doing level 3 engeerining at collage

Will he be neededing safety boots for the practical

He will be studying areonautical , eletroniocs and General engeerining they have a small plane in the hanger and the general engeering room is like a hi tech factory floor

He's got all his stuff for the written work and do you think he should be looking for a job near home or Collage do you think

pleasemothermay1 · 01/09/2016 18:50

Ha my son has job interview tomorrow for a supermarket two evenings a week hopefully he gets it

TeenAndTween · 01/09/2016 19:20

Hi please Most of us here have DCs doing BTECs, nice to have you join us. Any questions please ask and we'll try to help.

DD won't get her timetable until some time next week. She is likely to have one day per week when she doesn't need to go in, but I hope the rest is sensible. Last year she went in for 1 lesson only on one day and half a lesson on another! Should be better this year now she is doing a more standard option.

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Parky04 · 01/09/2016 19:41

My DS is attending College 5 days a week 8.30 to 16.30. He has to wear a suit and tie as well! At least he will be well prepared for when he starts work!

He enrolled on Tuesday and can't wait to get started. He is just delighted that he can study a subject he really enjoys and doesn't have to study any of the sciences ever again!!

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user1471516728 · 02/09/2016 10:39

Hi Pleasemother
Mine is doing level 2 engineering. He needs an overall (like a navy lab coat) and safety boots, we went to enroll yesterday and they had a local supplier on hand with coats to try on and leaflets for their website where you can order both boots and coats. At least I know I've ordered the right ones that the college has approved. I would imagine your college will probably do something similar.

Draylon · 02/09/2016 15:00

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pleasemothermay1 · 02/09/2016 15:30

Guess what eveyone

He got the job

Working the check out at a well know supermarket every little helps

He starts his induction tomorrow two evenings a week Friday and Saturday

Whoop whoop this is defiantly a parenting win after months of fighting about his lack lustre searching for a job.

Draylon · 02/09/2016 15:53

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TeenAndTween · 02/09/2016 18:36

Draylon possibly, but possibly not.

It might be the day for the last lesson, but some assignments still due in.

It might be the date all assignments expected in, but rework (referrals) still possible.

I would check before booking a holiday!

Good news mothermay

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EllenJanethickerknickers · 02/09/2016 19:45

I think DS's course is sorted. Very confusing system, though. Different codes for courses and finance, but almost identical.

His timetable is very sparse, only 11 hours of lessons, 1 1/4 directed study, 1 1/4 hours of individual tutorial. Starts at 12 on 2 days and Tuesday completely free.

He finishes on 23rd June, according to his enrolment form. Lucky boy! I shan't be booking a holiday, though as DS3 is in Y10 and I work in a school.

Will any of your DC have to do course related work experience? DS will at some point. He'll need support, though.

Draylon · 03/09/2016 10:46

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FozzieMK · 03/09/2016 17:33

My DD's college posted end of year dates on their calendar and I went ahead and booked a holiday straight after in her first year. What nobody told us was that there were workshops being held after this date for late assignment submissions! Luckily she managed to get all hers done in time or I would've had to change the holiday dates. I used to allow a couple of weeks after the publicised dates after that!

GasLightShining · 04/09/2016 17:29

My niece did a child care course and it was three days at college and two days work placement. I imagine that most courses won't have this. Assignments will need to be completed during their 'free time'.

Of course there is also time to get a part-time job too.

Draylon · 07/09/2016 19:16

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TeenAndTween · 07/09/2016 19:32

DD1 doesn't start second year until Monday.

She is learning to drive with DH, and braved Southampton for the first time today including some of the larger roundabouts. Draylon and anyone else nearby, I suggest you stay clear of the roads! Grin

(DD2 started secondary today which went OK, but only y7s in, so tomorrow may be a bit more scary).

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eatyourveg · 07/09/2016 21:22

Draylon Do you know about this? Its a free phone app and is basically an organiser in your phone, you put your timetable in, can set up alarms for getting to classrooms or add when homework is due etc etc

We tell all our students about it during induction as its free!

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EllenJanethickerknickers · 08/09/2016 08:04

DS2 managed to get to college and back solo yesterday for his induction day. I was a bit surprised to find out he now doesn't actually start the course until Monday! Two more days lounging around at home...

EllenJanethickerknickers · 08/09/2016 20:27

Well that was spooky. Just had a phone call from an old friend, going back about 25 years or so, who I've lost touch a little with in the last couple of years. Not fallen out at all, just both busy and children different ages.

She got a job last November working as an LSA (learning support assistant) at the local college. Only in the computing department. She saw DS2's name on the course list yesterday and popped in to introduce herself. She may well end up supporting him for some sessions. They met originally at her wedding, when DS2 was the youngest guest at 2 weeks old! Grin

It'll be brilliant to have a spy in the camp!

LynetteScavo · 10/09/2016 07:17

Marking my place as DS1 seems to have enrolled himself on a BTEC Extended diploma baccalaureate (it includes maths Alevel and he hates mathsConfusedHmmShockGrin) in Engineering. He enrolled while I was away, and has actually gone into college everyday so far. All I've had to do is write a check for £150 for trips.

He decided last February he didn't want to be at 6th form any more and has sat in his bedroom since then. No amount of cajoling from us worked (understatement) so I've just let him sort himself out with this BTEC...now he seems committed I need to find out what is actually involved!

LynetteScavo · 10/09/2016 07:22

DS also needs safety boots....does anyone know exactly how much practical is involved in Level 3 BTEC Engineering?

LynetteScavo · 10/09/2016 07:26

And because he's enrolled himself DS hasn't informed college he's on the Autistic spectrum. Very mildly, but he has a diagnosis. It didn't seem to help at sixth form that they knew, so I don't think it will help at college...I've been dithering about this.

TeenAndTween · 10/09/2016 09:53

Lyn That's impressive he just got on and enrolled himself! (I would still tell the college re the ASD, telling them might not help, but it can't harm surely?)

I've not been all that well this summer, so some things have been sliding. However a couple of weeks ago I asked DD whether we'd bought the Book 2 text book for her course at the start of the summer. She replied 'yes I think so'. Then more recently made remarks about packing her bag for college.

Just checked her room and bag. No Book 2s to be found. Sad Was it really my responsibility to check?

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