Does this seem daft to you?

[Mitmoo]

My sons secondary school is going to clip on ties. I just know he will lose at least one a month and the next game the schoolchildren will have is tie jacking.

Does it seem like a daft idea?

My kids used to go to a clip tie school, they never lost them thankfully. They did clip them on to stupid bits of their uniforms though.

Very. I can only suggest that you write his name in big black indelible pen on the back

yes, for secondary especially, do they think they aren't capable of tying them?

LOL that made me laugh, I can just see the mental images of places they'd put them.

It's to stop them tying massive fat knots or having them too short.

They either think they're incapable of tying them, or they're worried that they'll be used as a weapon

They introduced this at ds's school about 3 yrs ago for years 7and 8, as two had tried to hang themselves within a year of each other .

Not sure that the tie was the most important factor tbh, particularly as they both attempted at home.

Do clip on get lost easier?

In DD1's high school, there is a choice between clip on and tie on but herself and all her friends I know do were ties on ones .

Why is the school imposing clip on? what was the issue with the god old model?

good not god, sorry!

I have no idea Potters, it's an excellent school in so very many ways but the head has some peculiar ideas.

Why will he lose them?

Its not because they can't tie them, its to make them uniform so no mahoosive knots, undone top buttons or skinny bit hanging down, little stubby fat ties etc.

DS1 "lost" several ties at school due to play throttling incidents (not bullying, just boys being stupid). The teachers used to jcut the ties off rather than fiddle about trying to unknot them.

Dont worry about typos Gorionine, I'd be apologising all day long if I did.

I have no idea why it has to be clips but I know my DS wont be able to keep one for a month. The old one goes on and stays on. Ah well glad it is not just me.

Oh Snicker, that was the best bit of a school tie in the 1970's seems a shame to deprive the children of their alterations now. ;-)

DD's school have a velcro one to avoid big knots, but apparently they all know how to get round that one!

Sorry Snicker, he will probably lose them because he has autism and is one of the most disorganised children I've met. But he's lovely too. :-)

Big Tilly - children will always find a way to subvert the uniform, I know I did in my day 30+ years ago, good to know some things never change.

Maybe they could be permanently fastened to his shirt somehow, you would still need about 5 though. They look more daft than the individualised ones because the little Y7s have them poking out the bottom of their jumpers and the Y11s have them ending at the level of their nipples.

Snicker: Thank you I've had a rough day and you've made me laugh.

Thats probably it, when i was at school we had to have the tie on back to front with a tiny knot. Now they have it the right way but with a huge kipper knot.

the reason ties are to be clip on is that in fights they are often grabbed and pulled which may lead to choking, however, in my experience as a teacher they are not use as a weapon as much as belts with big metal buckles which are wrapped arround the had with the buckle exposed as used in the same way as a ball and chain, however, clip on ties are not daft!