Harrow v eton

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i started a thread before about people's experiences with Harrow and got a few responses but felt maybe I needed to word it differently.

I am hoping their are mners here who have more insight into both schools, what are the differences and why one and not the other. Thank you.

"I look at these threads because I'm fascinated by the weird reactions these schools provoke in some people, not because I'm jealous."

I know you are not jealous, singersgirl and all your comments are absolutely fair. My posts are not directed at you, I've told you before.

But this IS an Eton thread; Harrow v Eton, to be precise. And yes, I'm equally fascinated by the weird reactions these schools provoke in some people. I therefore, don't know why people who have no connections with either of these two schools coming round here blowing hot and cold air. But of course there'll be those who will claim they have forefathers who attended these schools since medieval times! If you believe that, you'll believe anything.

All boys successfully entering Eton, KS and Oppidans alike, would have taken the ?cannot be coached for? Eton computerised IQ test at some stage in their admissions process.

? a certain small number of schools do not have the monopoly on the most able children and yet they can often get four scholarships per year to Eton and multiple scholarships . . .?

I would dearly love to know which schools are these that often get ?four scholarships per year to Eton? (presumably with heavy coaching from tutoring companies in London). The last time I looked, the 14 King?s Scholarships went to boys from 10 different schools spread right across the South East and as far a field as West Sussex, Buckinghamshire, Oxfordshire and Cambridgeshire. I?m quite confident than none of these boys came down to London for heavy coaching. Only 3 boys come from London proper - 2 from Westminster Under School and 1 from SW19. Even so, it is highly unlikely they attended the London tuition companies for ?heavy coaching?.

A major surprise I?d say, is that not a single boy from Summer Fields, Oxford was successful this year. Traditionally, this school sends three or four KS?s to Eton almost every year without fail. No further proof needed that you cannot coach a boy for a King?s Scholarship.

I doubt there are few sane people left in the 21 st century who believe that every word a journalist writes even if they are a "reputable international journalist of 40 years standing" in fact I would have thought that having spent "most of the 1990s ...... as a feature writer for the Daily Mail." means that she is incapable of writing a single word of truth!

Is it the recent heat ? Im completely befuddled as to the point of this whole argument that seems to rage on and on.

Peteneras - ( and im asking very genuinely) what exactly is the point you are trying to make ? You mentioned that you post like this to provoke people who are jealous ? , most of the respondents here have children at Eton, Winchester and the like anyway, except myself, so why would they be jealous ?

You sound very passionate to make a point about something but i just don't get what that something is.

Thank you.

I've decided, from this day forward , never to discuss the mundane subject of Eton, Harrow or any other school, except Winchester, on a public forum ever again.

I'm now off to have a life!

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Eton vs Harrow

Eton: More academically selective and superior societies.

Harrow: Better at sport, still very good academically especially under the new headmaster.

Eton: Boys are monicoddled more than those at Harrow and are only mildly arrogant.

Harrow: Boys are left to fend for themselves and develop great character, many are very arrogant.

Oxbridge:

Eton: 33/220 15%

Harrow: 22/150 33%

Alumni:

Eton: David Cameron, Eddie Redmayne, The princes, 19 Prime ministers, Archbishop of Canterbury.

Harrow: Winston Churchill, Benedict Cumberbatch, 9 Prime ministers, Lord Byron, Shafestbury.

Music: Equal.

Drama: Very close although Eton has a slight edge.

Admissions: Harrow is harder to get into but Eton is more academically selective.

In my opinion, these are Britain's best 2 schools, many super-selectives like St. Pauls and Westminster can drive students to drug abuse due to immense pressure. The better option here is very hard, for scholarly boys Eton is better however for all-rounders Harrow is the better and for sporty boys Harrow is the obvious option. Harrow is becoming very good academically and in a few years it will be better academically than Eton due to the headmaster's new policies.

Top 10 Boarding schools:

(1.) Eton + Harrow (premier league)

(2.) Winchester (premier league)

(3.) Westminster (Day + Boarding) (premier league)

(4.) St Pauls (Day + Boarding) (premier league)

(5.) Tonbridge (premier league)

(6.) Radley College (championship)

(7.) Charterhouse (championship)

(8.) Wellington college (championship)

(9.) Marlborough college (championship)

(10.) Rugby (championship)

Oxbridge:

Eton: 33/220 15%

Harrow: 22/150 33%

If people think 22 out of 150 is 33%, then they really need to go to Harrow.

"Over the past thirty years some 60-100 boys have made successful applications to Oxbridge each year."

Oxfordboy-You really are gilding the lilly,the drama is far better at Eton,house productions are at a different level,let alone school productions.
Dont think boys at either school are mollycoddled,you have to put your marker down very quick at both dont think giving boys their own room straightaway is mollycoddling,pretty sure some would prefer to start in a dorm,, one complaint weve had from parents of Etonians is that its sink or swim from the moment you arrive,not set prep times,full responsibility for getting work done on time from the day you arrive,that is not mollycoddling,but we have found excellent pastoral care at H,likewise havent heard many complaints about pastoral at E.
Harrow does indeed have more applicants than E,but does that make it harder to get into?Not in my opinion,Eton has already had first dibs,as have a couple of London day schools,add in the fact many boys apply to more than one school and the harder to get into arguement doesnt really stand up,E and H are both great schools,among the best in the world,no need to try and measure one against the other,if you do then sadly E will come out top,cant see that changing.
H is not the obvious choice for a sportsman,however it does offer sports scholarships which certainly help results.

I never went to Eton or Harrow. It's bogus and its importance over-inflated. I went to a Comprehensive in Cardiff. I got average to good A-levels. Got my BSc, got my PhD and now have an international reputation with national and international leadership and advisory influence. Public schools are bunk. If you've got it intellectually, your credentials, personality, acumen, knowledge, skills, abilities and reputation will do the talking for you. Don't sweat it. I know many that have attended both Eton and Harrow and they're washed up failures and drunkards.

Don’t know why the E website only has destination of leavers up to 2015. H has already posted its projected destinations for 2019/20 cohort. In line with other public schools & not overly impressive.