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Thoughts on the SNP’s proposed P1 school bag scheme

178 replies

FunnyOrca · 24/08/2026 20:17

What do you think about the SNP’s P1 bag idea?

I think the prototypes look ugly! My nephew down south got a school branded one from his local primary. It’s satchel style and looks smart. It’s not huge, fits his homework jotter, reading folder and water bottle.

I also think it’s pretty pointless! I’d rather have funded childcare from 9 months or strategies for teacher retention! 😭

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Differentforgirls · 25/08/2026 15:03

Backtoschooloncemore · 25/08/2026 14:46

38% was for constituency seats. 27% for regional seats.

I blame the people who designed the Scottish system in which the only secondary scrutiny of legislation is by committees and they can be chaired and vice chaired by the ruling party, and scrutiny of ministers’ behaviour has to be approved by the FM who is the same party, and the appointment to the head of the prosecution service is at the gift of the same party on whose cabinet they sit, and there is no right to recall MSPs, and now we can have someone with no right to stay in the uk get appointed as MSP following a regional vote that includes students who are only here for a month…. The whole system is corrupt.

On and we have a presiding officer appointed by the ruling party who is unsurprisingly just as biased as the last one.

The last one wasn’t a ruling party presiding officer. She was SGP.

Differentforgirls · 25/08/2026 15:15

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Backtoschooloncemore · 25/08/2026 15:36

Differentforgirls · 25/08/2026 15:03

The last one wasn’t a ruling party presiding officer. She was SGP.

She was elected as part of the run up to the SNP agreeing a power sharing government with the SGP.

Backtoschooloncemore · 25/08/2026 15:38

Differentforgirls · 25/08/2026 15:11

Oh and parliament votes on the presiding officer. Not the ruling party.

https://spice-spotlight.scot/2026/05/12/explainer-how-does-the-parliament-elect-a-presiding-officer/

Sooo the parties who work together to form the government, formally or informally, because they can have a majority in parliament, get to choose for the presiding officer too by virtue of their slim majority…

Differentforgirls · 25/08/2026 15:41

Backtoschooloncemore · 25/08/2026 15:36

She was elected as part of the run up to the SNP agreeing a power sharing government with the SGP.

By parliament.

Differentforgirls · 25/08/2026 15:42

Backtoschooloncemore · 25/08/2026 15:38

Sooo the parties who work together to form the government, formally or informally, because they can have a majority in parliament, get to choose for the presiding officer too by virtue of their slim majority…

Edited

The whole parliament votes. It’s actually not a good thing for any party if one of their members become PO. It means they’ve lost a vote for any legislation they want to implement.

UhOhRatPoo · 25/08/2026 15:45

Weeellokthen · 25/08/2026 09:25

Well, the sky is also blue,the grass is green, is it not? Just because the cancerous "auld firm" chose those colours, does not mean they own them 😂
Again, it depends how bigoted you are to take offence because of a colour in nature 😁

It’s the white stripe, obviously. So many people in denial about pervasive sectarianism.

UhOhRatPoo · 25/08/2026 15:48

RaraRachael · 25/08/2026 09:46

And on where you live.
It means nothing in the part of Scotland where I live.

Lucky you. Sod everyone else then eh?

savoycabbage · 25/08/2026 16:04

My dd was at a school with matching school bags and she almost died when they went to an athletics track for sports day and she needed her EpiPen and nobody could find it because all the fecking bags were identical.

Differentforgirls · 25/08/2026 16:07

savoycabbage · 25/08/2026 16:04

My dd was at a school with matching school bags and she almost died when they went to an athletics track for sports day and she needed her EpiPen and nobody could find it because all the fecking bags were identical.

I had that with by DT1 son. I bought him a bum bag to keep his stuff in. It’s a worry!

RaraRachael · 25/08/2026 16:21

UhOhRatPoo · 25/08/2026 15:48

Lucky you. Sod everyone else then eh?

I'm just commenting that it's not an issue where I live. People here find it hard to understand because it just isn't an issue.

Backtoschooloncemore · 25/08/2026 17:25

Differentforgirls · 25/08/2026 15:42

The whole parliament votes. It’s actually not a good thing for any party if one of their members become PO. It means they’ve lost a vote for any legislation they want to implement.

You really struggle to understand that the when a party forms an informal coalition, as the SNP has with the Greens, so that they can have the majority of votes, however slim, that also means they get to choose the presiding officer? So they can push through any legislation they want and control the scrutiny both in committee and parliament and if they behave badly it doesn’t matter as the FM controls the standards committee.

Differentforgirls · 25/08/2026 17:35

Backtoschooloncemore · 25/08/2026 17:25

You really struggle to understand that the when a party forms an informal coalition, as the SNP has with the Greens, so that they can have the majority of votes, however slim, that also means they get to choose the presiding officer? So they can push through any legislation they want and control the scrutiny both in committee and parliament and if they behave badly it doesn’t matter as the FM controls the standards committee.

I actually sent you the link. THE WHOLE PARLIAMENT VOTES ON WHO IS PO. The BUTE HOUSE AGREEMENT ended with Humza.

Gingerkittykat · 25/08/2026 17:59

Families who are on a low income already receive a £331.95 school-age payment when their kids start P1. This is on top of a school uniform grant which is a minimum of £120 per child. This is more than enough to buy school bags, supplies and even electronics for learning.

I do understand that a small proportion of kids will have feckless parents who do not supply what the kids need, and I think the government could supply bags via schools to those who really need them.

The only potential positives I can see are that the bags contain books, although there are no details about the books are. They might allow a kid without resources at home to draw, write, etc although they should also supply paper.

Does anyone know how much the school bags cost to produce and distribute?

Groovee · 25/08/2026 18:05

A complete waste of money. Our P1’s need a water bottle, get a book bag and maybe a packed lunch. Who wants 25 matching bags to search when something goes missing.

Backtoschooloncemore · 25/08/2026 18:07

Differentforgirls · 25/08/2026 17:35

I actually sent you the link. THE WHOLE PARLIAMENT VOTES ON WHO IS PO. The BUTE HOUSE AGREEMENT ended with Humza.

If one party (or a combination of two parties) have 65 MSPs then they get to form the government. They also get to propose the PO and it doesn’t matter who the rest of the parliament vote for because they have the majority so their candidate wins!!!!

The previous PO could not be removed simply because the Bute House agreement was no longer valid, nor did the Bute House agreement ending mean the SNP stopped courting the SGP MSP votes.

Ballybeat · 25/08/2026 18:14

Gingerkittykat · 25/08/2026 17:59

Families who are on a low income already receive a £331.95 school-age payment when their kids start P1. This is on top of a school uniform grant which is a minimum of £120 per child. This is more than enough to buy school bags, supplies and even electronics for learning.

I do understand that a small proportion of kids will have feckless parents who do not supply what the kids need, and I think the government could supply bags via schools to those who really need them.

The only potential positives I can see are that the bags contain books, although there are no details about the books are. They might allow a kid without resources at home to draw, write, etc although they should also supply paper.

Does anyone know how much the school bags cost to produce and distribute?

What the hell do the parents spend the money that they’re supposed to spend on their kids on?

Stillreadingalot · 25/08/2026 19:01

I think it's a waste of money and duplicates the existing Bookbug Primary 1 bag which is a reusable bag with 3 books, an activity pack and pencils.

liveforsummer · 25/08/2026 19:07

What a waste of money, and how are small dc going to recognise their bag and water bottle easily if they are all the same? I work in a school. We’ll have loads of those bottles left unclaimed by the end of week 1! Hardly any dc are going to actually want the bags and the parents won’t use them. Most p1’s are so proud of their bags, bottles and pencil cases in their favourite colours and with their favourite characters on! Put more support in schools instead with the money or fund them so they can supply the basics!

Gingerkittykat · 25/08/2026 19:08

The vast majority of parents want the best for their kids and will spend the money on them, but I have no idea why the school age payment exists or is so high. It means some families will receive a total of £450 when their kids start P1 when it costs a lot less than that.

There will be a small minority who either live in deep poverty and spend it on essentials or are just bad parents and spend it on fags, booze, drugs, take aways etc.

liveforsummer · 25/08/2026 19:09

Gingerkittykat · 25/08/2026 17:59

Families who are on a low income already receive a £331.95 school-age payment when their kids start P1. This is on top of a school uniform grant which is a minimum of £120 per child. This is more than enough to buy school bags, supplies and even electronics for learning.

I do understand that a small proportion of kids will have feckless parents who do not supply what the kids need, and I think the government could supply bags via schools to those who really need them.

The only potential positives I can see are that the bags contain books, although there are no details about the books are. They might allow a kid without resources at home to draw, write, etc although they should also supply paper.

Does anyone know how much the school bags cost to produce and distribute?

The book bug packs given throughout nursery and school contain books and stationary so most dc will have these from there

liveforsummer · 25/08/2026 19:15

Caterina99 · 25/08/2026 10:58

Total waste of money! Money that could be given directly to the schools that are struggling with tiny budgets, or targeted specifically at the kids that need it. (Fund for schools to use to buy bags and water bottles for kids that don’t have them?)

I have kids currently in Scottish primary school. They don’t take in pens, pencils etc in the early years. We are actively told not to.

From our own experience, my DS already had a school bag and water bottle from nursery, so that would be unnecessary. My DD has one she chose. I’m not sure if it would be great to have an identical one to her brother and to her entire class.

Lunches are free up to p5. Spend the money making lunches universally free for primary kids? Probably more helpful than some bags that will be in landfill in a year.

And what about high school kids. That’s when all the help seems to fall away. They are bigger and hungrier and eat more so it’s a lot to find when they’ve been getting fed through primary school

Differentforgirls · 25/08/2026 20:08

Backtoschooloncemore · 25/08/2026 18:07

If one party (or a combination of two parties) have 65 MSPs then they get to form the government. They also get to propose the PO and it doesn’t matter who the rest of the parliament vote for because they have the majority so their candidate wins!!!!

The previous PO could not be removed simply because the Bute House agreement was no longer valid, nor did the Bute House agreement ending mean the SNP stopped courting the SGP MSP votes.

Edited

The SNP had three candidates you absolute Wally.

Differentforgirls · 25/08/2026 20:10

Stillreadingalot · 25/08/2026 19:01

I think it's a waste of money and duplicates the existing Bookbug Primary 1 bag which is a reusable bag with 3 books, an activity pack and pencils.

It’s a cloth bag.