Scottish Elections who do you think will take the majority of Seats?

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As a Scot I genuinely have no idea who to vote for.

I dont trust the SNP and find John Swinney completely incompetent. I wouldnt trust him to run my household budget let alone the countries so he is out for me. I cant stand labour, the tories well are not my cup of tea, lib dems and green would never get my vote.

However i dont seem to be alone in having no idea who to vote for which leaves me wondering who will take the majority of seats across Scotland. What do others think will happen?

Just before the election I walked past a woman handing out SNP leaflets. I just said, "No, thanks," but after I wished I'd been quick enough to say, "Why on earth would I vote for a party that doesn't know what a woman is?"

There's a new curriculum coming in. No idea what it's like. We need a knowledge based curriculum but I doubt it will be. It's not just the curriculum that's the problem. SNP have made a mess of education in general. Expectations and standards are so low. Excuses are used as a get out for behaving.

Oh god - what nonsense did he come out with?

Did anyone see his paper? So much nonsense is churned out from unis. https://academic.oup.com/sd/article/56/6/796/8435420?login=false

So many words, yet so little said.

Who does he know?

It’s a bit like Brexit forgetting to consider the NIreland/ Ireland border - I live 20 miles from the Scottish border -imagine having to use two different currencies,needing a passport to get to the nearest big supermarket etc There’s been no mention of how that would work. Also the main route to Norhern Ireland ferries runs past here -so lorries would leave England,pass through Scotland ,get on ferry to NIreland (still part of UK) - ?tax for imports, varied fuel prices, passports for drivers - suggests higher costs all round

it all depends whether Indy Scotland would look to join the EU. The hassle with N Ireland post Brexit is that there cannot be a border between Ireland / N Ireland due to the peace deal. It would be highly inflammatory to do so anyway so it cannot be done. But then you have no border between the EU and a non-EU country which is also impossible. The whole point behind the single market / customs union is that goods going into / out of the EU are thoroughly checked.

So, in an Indy Scotland where Scotland doesn’t want to join the EU, is Scotland and England both agree then there can be no border between Scotland and England. It can be possible. And then the route to 60% of scotlands exports is unaffected. But if Scotland joins the EU there will be a hard border between Scotland and England, and exporting 60% of your trade would be a huge faff. That’s immensely economically damaging. The pro Indy people claim they’ll come to some sort of agreement for no border like there is in Ireland but they won’t. Why would the EU agree to it? There is no motivation for them to do so. Thats wishful thinking.

And that’s before you get onto the fact that the dire financial state of Scotland now (which would be far, far, worse after Indy) means Scotland hasn’t a hope in hell in meeting the ascension criteria for decades. And a new currency that would instantly devalue and borrowing at a much higher rate than the bond market are charging now etc etc.

If Scotland wants to be a successful country, to get into the EU in a reasonable time post Indy etc it needs to stop wasting money. If it could prove that it could run the country on the income it generates and reduce the deficit to a quarter of what it is now more people would think Indy is feasible, but that would mean cutting what it currently spends by 20% and massively incentivising businesses to grow. The Scottish government doesn’t want to slash benefits to the bone though, to slash the vast number of public servants, to tell Scottish doctors and healthcare professionals they’re going to have to take a pay cut and make redundancies, ditch the child payment etc etc. So on we go with lies and obfuscation from the SNP about sunlit Indy uplands, and the no vote pointing out Indy would be utter madness. And Scotland failing to be governed properly by a shite SNP that gets voted in time and again because people ignore how terrible they are because they love their lies about Indy.

If an independent Scotland is going all open borders (as at least the SGreens want) a hard border might be a rest-UK requirement even if Scotland is outwith the EU and Schengen.

I've changed my mind on Indy since the last referendum, and this is one reason why.

The other is the shitshow displayed by the Scottish Government, especially coming so close to self-ID for gender.

RUk would have to have a border to stop an influx of migrants coming to Scotland then heading to England

Surely Brexit has shown what a stupid idea independence actually is, practically speaking?

There are still so many unanswered questions from the previous Indy ref, including borders, currency, pensions that we have not even begun to move forward on.

The government tinker around the edges doing nothing to bring Scotland up on the world as all of the levelling seems to be downwards. Education levels are falling, as is our mortality rates with some parts of Glasgow in which people stop having healthy lives from around 45. And then we have infant mortality which despite the much lauded baby box is on the rise. However, people don’t seem to want to hold this government to account and keep voting for them despite all of this. Let’s hope that if we do get independence, I will retain my British passport as I won’t want to live in a country with such low ambitions for its people.

But the SNP have been in government so surely the obligation is on them to lead and govern ?

The pensions question isn’t a question. The only thing related to pensions that will transfer to Indy Scotland is the ledger listing how many years of NICs Scottish citizens have paid. rUK would have no obligation whatsoever to pay Scotland anything.

The Indy mob never provide any actual proper answers to currency, borders, pensions, mortgages, investments held in pounds sterling.

Never mind how our massive public sector and benefits bills will be met

I’d give it consideration if they spelled out their plans properly

SNP can’t run a bath never mind running a country

But they CANNOT spell it out properly because if the general public had it spelled out to them just how bad it would be there’s no way even their most gullible goons would vote for it! Hmm. Can’t trade properly with you biggest partner? Paying a GBP mortgage with massively devalued scot£? National budget cut of at least 30%? Public services half what they are now and massive cuts to benefits, taxes soaring etc? Does any of this sound good to you?

No, it sounds terrible!

It’s just the same sunlit uplands message as the Brexit message, then lemmings off a cliff

Ohh well so SNP lost 5 ssats (and came close to others) less people voted so in reality only 38 percent of people votes for them and they are now pushing an independence referendum. Goodness they remind me of my kids when I say no to them and they keep asking incase I say yes. They dont even know what a woman is let alone how to run a country

Because everyone hates the Tories (except the S Scotland) and Labour are seen as hopeless due to Westminster it does seem there is no opposition to SNP.
Maybe a change of PM and some successful improvements by the UK Gov might start getting the SNP MSPs pushed out.

You want elected representatives "pushed out"?

The SNP seem quite happy to do that up here.

I love how dedicated you are to me. God love you xx

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I agree with this.

I don’t really understand where all of the Tory hating comes from. They’re the only party talking sense in a number of areas. Many people will go back to thatcher as an excuse for their Tory hate but she killed off a dead industry that was consuming ever more government subsidies. It had to be done. There was no point keeping unproductive pits open.