Scottish Elections who do you think will take the majority of Seats?

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As a Scot I genuinely have no idea who to vote for.

I dont trust the SNP and find John Swinney completely incompetent. I wouldnt trust him to run my household budget let alone the countries so he is out for me. I cant stand labour, the tories well are not my cup of tea, lib dems and green would never get my vote.

However i dont seem to be alone in having no idea who to vote for which leaves me wondering who will take the majority of seats across Scotland. What do others think will happen?

"he"?

Not the last time I checked.

And aye, I'm so "raging" my sides are hurting from laughing at the desperation on here.

Where is @GargoylesofBeelzebub ? Has anyone asked for a welfare check?

The SNP who lost almost 900,000 votes from 2021?

And 6 constituency seats?

And several seats which had been held by SNP MSP's for years?

Didn't Angus Robertson come 3rd as the incumbent, with 21.9% of the vote?

That's not grasping at straws - that's fact 😂

Yes, the "facts" of yet another dominant SNP election victory.

Didn't Angus Robertson come 3rd as the incumbent, with 21.9% of the vote?

Did indeed, displaced by Lorna Slater of the Scottish Greens.

I don't think you'll find many in the Edinburgh SNP that distraught at seeing the back of him. It's not a bad thing to be rid of a few of the hangovers from previous era, and he went out of his way to get people's backs up. Photo Op with Israeli government is really not a sensible idea when you stand in a constituency with a huge Student bloc

They lost seats, didn't get a majority, and are down many votes since 2021. That's the facts. Sure, they won - but more voters didn't vote for them than did, and more people than ever are using the ballot box to show they are utterly fed up of their incompetence.

And on that note, I'm off the bath the dog.

‘Landslide’ 🤣🤣🤣

Is this to be celebrated?! Even with the loony Greens.

The unionist vote outnumbers the nationalist vote

There is no mandate for independence

The SNP needs to stop wittering about a referendum and make my country a better place

but more voters didn't vote for them than did

You keep bringing up wholly irrelevant stats as if they somehow alter the outcome.

There is no stipulation that to govern in Scotland a single party has to total 50% of the electorate +1, so whether more people didn't vote for them than did is just yet another irrelevance and yet more grasping at straws.

It doesn't make the blindest bit of difference to the fact the SNP are the overwhelming presence at Holyrood and are set up perfectly well to govern over the next 5 years, this in spite of all and sundry claiming they have been in crisis and ready to be "swept away" as soon as 2026 rolled around.

more people than ever are using the ballot box to show they are utterly fed up of their incompetence

But evidently not enough to overcome those who realise the alternatives are in no way a better proposition. You only need look at the shambles Labour have left Wales in, and the mess made by successive Tory and Labour governments in England. What is it about those parties that should be attracting my vote? I'm curious, because the only messaging I received for either was "stop the SNP", and not a single positive message as to why I should be considering them.

They’re not overwhelming: they don’t have a majority

It was a very clear win by the SNP and a good result for them after so many years in power. A majority of MSPs elected are from pro independence parties. The election is by no means a disaster for the SNP.

The unionist vote outnumbers the nationalist vote

More irrelevant stats. The only thing that matters is SNP msps outnumber their potential opponents.

There is no mandate for independence

Which is an odd thing to veer off to, since this was an election and not a referendum on the Constitution, hence why the "more unionist votes" thing is irrelevant.

The SNP needs to stop wittering about a referendum and make my country a better place

Unionists "Stop banging on about referenda. BTW, vote for us to stop a referendum"

also Unionists - "god I wish those Nats would shut up about referendums".

🙄

No one is saying it’s a disaster for the SNP

Neither is it “overwhelming”

Vote share down

Maybe, just maybe, it’s time to listen to ordinary Scots and not just spout the party line

As depressing as it is to see Lorna in any position of power given her dreadful track record and radge views, it was brilliant to see the constituents so clearly show their distaste of the SNP.

Did the SNP get any regional seats in that area?

Swinney said if the SNP won a majority he’d go for a referendum

This hasn’t happened

I’m not spinning anything, you are.

Nonsense.

In what way is 41 more Msps than the second largest party not "overwhelming"?

Since "vote share" is being brought up endlessly, they also recorded a higher vote share than Starmer's Labour when they recorded a 170'odd majority in 2024, and absolutely nobody was arguing with a straight face that wasn't an overwhelming landslide.

Surely a landslide implies a majority?

The SNP has secured neither a majority of seats nor of votes cast

it would behove them to listen to the people of Scotland across the board

No, and they wouldn't have expected to given they'd have banked on two direct elections at least. There was a lot of SNP lending of Regional vote going on, so regardless of the fact they only returned one Constituency, there wasn't nearly enough Regional SNP weight of vote for it to matter.

1x Regional in H&I, which was partly predicable given that the likes of Ewing was always likely to be slung.

Not in a parliamentary system that is predicated upon making majority governments next to impossible.

For context, if Scotland used FPTP, then every election since 2011, including Thursday's would have seen around 100 SNP msps, with the remaining parties scrabbling over the other 25-30.

That's why in comparative terms it's indisputably a landslide victory.

Yes, and this still has nothing to do with vote share and unionist votes vs Indi votes.

But it has to do with what he said? And was passed as a resolution at the conference?

Yes, predicated upon returning a majority of SNP msps, which does not require a majority of the popular vote, hence why "vote share" and the indi/unionist vote split is irrelevant re the referendum pledge.

The only pertinent factor is the majority of 65, which wasn't met, so the question now is whether or not the argument changes tack to a simple pro-indi majority equalling a mandate.

The constitutional question is not a single party issue, so it's a bit short sighted to argue that only if one party returns a majority should it be discussed. By that logic, it follows that one unionist party should have to return a majority for it to be off the table.