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Stillreadingalot · 14/02/2026 15:30

Timeline: The SNP finances controversy - BBC News https://share.google/bdBSEcTpIBXGiaWJX
March and May of 2021 - so people were asking questions but were silenced.

Designless · 14/02/2026 15:45

Mylovelygreendress · 14/02/2026 11:45

Exactly . She just loved standing at that podium every day 😡

With bloody Janey godley's shitty sketches making her even more beloved

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 14/02/2026 18:18

Designless · 14/02/2026 15:45

With bloody Janey godley's shitty sketches making her even more beloved

Even Janet Godleys unfunny daughter still riding on that particular coat tail. FFS sometimes I despair of us….

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 14/02/2026 18:29

Stillreadingalot · 14/02/2026 15:29

If memory serves correctly someone resigned as finance officer quire soon after appointment because they weren't being given sufficient access to the books to do the job

There were several people that resigned. Joanna Cherry being one of them.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 14/02/2026 18:30

Seeingadistance · 14/02/2026 12:44

There’s a kind of magical thinking going on within the independence movement as whole, I think. When asked about such minor details as, for example, currency in an independent Scotland they just wave their hands in the air and say it will all be sorted out come the great day. Independence is all, everything else but minor details. That and the type of personality cult around Sturgeon and the tight grip she had on the party and other key positions within government and other Scottish institutions means that dissent is pretty much unthinkable.

Am reminded of my granny’s ornament of the three wise monkeys covering their eyes, their ears and their mouths.

In fact, did/do they not have a slogan, “wheesht for Indy”?

Edited

“Wheesht for Indy” has done so much damage to Scotland and the governance of Scotland.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 14/02/2026 18:32

Designless · 14/02/2026 10:48

It was infuriating how many people thought she was "good during COVID". She just behaved like a stupid deputy head teacher erring on the side of maximum restriction and harm because she correctly sensed that people were in a mad panic

They’re the same people that are fooled by Zack Polanski. They lap up the soundbites and do not delve any deeper into what is actually being done. Which never matches up to the snappy slogans.

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Scoffingbiscuits · 14/02/2026 19:17

That timeline by the BBC is damning against Sturgeon.
So a number of people (including the SNP treasurer and the party's auditors) resigned from their positions due to concerns about the party finances and a refusal to provide information. And yet nothing happened until a supporter who'd donated money started to ask what had happened to it. What normally happens in these situations?

FizzingAda · 14/02/2026 19:39

NS will not face any comeuppance- she's done exactly what her masters in Westminster want, made a laughing stock of the SNP and killed independence.

lljkk · 14/02/2026 19:52

Women on MN are fooled all the time by nasty partners, but gosh no way Sturgeon was fooled (say the MNers).

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 14/02/2026 21:00

lljkk · 14/02/2026 19:52

Women on MN are fooled all the time by nasty partners, but gosh no way Sturgeon was fooled (say the MNers).

Did you miss the video of her viciously telling people not to ask questions?

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Scoffingbiscuits · 14/02/2026 21:12

I suspect that even the foolish women of MN might notice if their husband bought 2 extremely expensive luxury cars, a very expensive campervan which sat unused for years on his elderly mother's drive and random expensive presents for his wife and family at a total cost of close to £500K. He wasn't that well paid, was he? The SNP declared his earnings as being under £80K in 2020. I've done a rough calculation using that as his average pay over the embezzlement period and in 12 years he allegedly spent the equivalent of around 8.5 years' net pay on luxury goods paid for out of SNP funds. And during that period Sturgeon shut down attempts by responsible people to see what was happening to party funds.

Scramado · 14/02/2026 21:25

I’m shocked that people are shocked by this. She’s spearheaded Indy knowing full well it will be an economic atom bomb. She lied day after day after day. She probably doesn’t even know that she’s supposed to tell the truth anymore.

These people are scum. Just scum.

Scoffingbiscuits · 14/02/2026 21:33

FizzingAda · 14/02/2026 19:39

NS will not face any comeuppance- she's done exactly what her masters in Westminster want, made a laughing stock of the SNP and killed independence.

So Police Scotland are powerless to investigate crime in Scotland without authorisation from London, are they? And COPFS are powerless to prosecute unless London tells them to? The fact is that Scotland's Lord Advocate, who makes the decision on whether to prosecute or not, is a member of Cabinet in the Scottish Government. There are serious concerns over bias in favour of the Scottish leadership, as her 2 roles as head of the prosecution service and as a member of the Scottish Government conflict.

As for the SNP, I have no difficulty in believing that they've caused this mess all by themselves. Or are you suggesting that 12 years of embezzlement by Peter Murrell was somehow engineered by Westminster in order to scupper the reputation of the SNP? Can you even hear yourself?

Dorothy Bain has attended 40 Cabinet meetings during Operation Branchform - Scottish Daily Express

Dorothy Bain has attended 40 Cabinet meetings during Operation Branchform

The revelation has sparked further calls for the Lord Advocate's dual role to be split, with the head of Scotland's prosecution service also serving as a member of the government

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/dorothy-bain-attended-40-cabinet-30111774

Scramado · 14/02/2026 22:40

FizzingAda · 14/02/2026 19:39

NS will not face any comeuppance- she's done exactly what her masters in Westminster want, made a laughing stock of the SNP and killed independence.

Personally I think what’s killed Indy is no intelligent person willing to stand as an MSP of an Indy supporting party. Fergus Ewing and Ash Regan are independents. Kate Forbes is quitting Parliament. The rest are all out and out idiots.

Neil Gray, Maggie Chapman, Jenny Gilruth, Shona Robertson, Ross Greer, Humza Yousef (FFS!). All total and utter embarrassments.

Scramado · 14/02/2026 22:44

Angela Constance. How could I forget her? One of the most embarrassing of all. “I cannot possibly comment due to a live case”. Aye ye can hen, you just don’t want to because it’s so embarrassing the depths the government will go to to rip women’s rights from them.

Snugglemonkey · 14/02/2026 22:59

It was during covid that I lost all respect for her. She really seemed to just see what Westminster said, then up the ante. Fuck the effect on our lives. Fuck the economy. She seized the opportunity to play the states woman and made mad sweeping decisions based on fuck all. And the rest of the party let her.

LucyLoo1972 · 15/02/2026 01:14

Scoffingbiscuits · 13/02/2026 23:55

It's mindblowing stuff. I'd love to know the psychology behind this. Was it just a hugely overblown sense of entitlement and invulnerability? Or something else?

yes id love to know this. too

TheGoddessAthena · 15/02/2026 09:06

Snugglemonkey · 14/02/2026 22:59

It was during covid that I lost all respect for her. She really seemed to just see what Westminster said, then up the ante. Fuck the effect on our lives. Fuck the economy. She seized the opportunity to play the states woman and made mad sweeping decisions based on fuck all. And the rest of the party let her.

I'd agree with this. She made huge political capital about being "not Boris" and portraying herself as the calm and steady leader taking sensible decisions.

But our kids were out of school so much longer, then there was all the "what's a cafe" debate, the slicing the bottoms of doors off in schools, the rules about pubs being able to open but not serve alcohol, restaurants not being allowed to play music, not leaving your council area irrespective of where you lived, blended learning which caused such a stooshie it was rolled back and they tried to kid on they never meant 30% of the time in school at all, "vertical drinking" not being allowed, masks for far longer than in the rest of the UK, being told "just because you can doesn't mean you should" and the rest of it.

The Covid enquiry found that a small group was making the decisions with no accountability. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clygy5z0zyzo And the jury is out on whether all her extra restrictions and rules made one iota of difference.

It showed though in sparkling clarity how the SNP operates. Decision making concentrated in the hands of two or three people. No formal meetings or minute keeping to make huge decisions like shutting schools. No challenge from the rest of the party or MSPs because the leader is seen as beyond criticism. People who DO criticise like Ash Regan or Joanna Cherry are ostracized and shunned. Those who do bad things (like Margaret Ferrier or Patrick Grady) but who remain loyal are supported. The culture of the whole party is so toxic.

FizzingAda · 15/02/2026 10:19

Scoffingbiscuits · 14/02/2026 21:33

So Police Scotland are powerless to investigate crime in Scotland without authorisation from London, are they? And COPFS are powerless to prosecute unless London tells them to? The fact is that Scotland's Lord Advocate, who makes the decision on whether to prosecute or not, is a member of Cabinet in the Scottish Government. There are serious concerns over bias in favour of the Scottish leadership, as her 2 roles as head of the prosecution service and as a member of the Scottish Government conflict.

As for the SNP, I have no difficulty in believing that they've caused this mess all by themselves. Or are you suggesting that 12 years of embezzlement by Peter Murrell was somehow engineered by Westminster in order to scupper the reputation of the SNP? Can you even hear yourself?

Dorothy Bain has attended 40 Cabinet meetings during Operation Branchform - Scottish Daily Express

Where did I even mention Peter Murrell in my post?
the LA and NS are best pals, and agree that the LA should be separate from the cabinet and political parties, as was the case in Alex Salmond's time.
During her tenure NS has hollowed out the SNP from a reasonably competent party to a failing bunch of incompetents.
emasculating the NEC
gerrymandering the candidate list
obsessing over self ID
Stabbing her former mentor in the back
the massive loss of members speaks volumes about how she has severely weakened the party, and she has gotten away with it all so far. She is as mendacious as her husband, and if you think Westminster hasn't been cheering her on, give your head a wobble and do some research. In the grand scheme of things the embezzlement, while appalling, is small fry to what she has done.

Igneococcus · 15/02/2026 10:55

FizzingAda · 15/02/2026 10:19

Where did I even mention Peter Murrell in my post?
the LA and NS are best pals, and agree that the LA should be separate from the cabinet and political parties, as was the case in Alex Salmond's time.
During her tenure NS has hollowed out the SNP from a reasonably competent party to a failing bunch of incompetents.
emasculating the NEC
gerrymandering the candidate list
obsessing over self ID
Stabbing her former mentor in the back
the massive loss of members speaks volumes about how she has severely weakened the party, and she has gotten away with it all so far. She is as mendacious as her husband, and if you think Westminster hasn't been cheering her on, give your head a wobble and do some research. In the grand scheme of things the embezzlement, while appalling, is small fry to what she has done.

Westminster "cheering" is different to Westminster being her master.

Scoffingbiscuits · 15/02/2026 11:25

FizzingAda · 15/02/2026 10:19

Where did I even mention Peter Murrell in my post?
the LA and NS are best pals, and agree that the LA should be separate from the cabinet and political parties, as was the case in Alex Salmond's time.
During her tenure NS has hollowed out the SNP from a reasonably competent party to a failing bunch of incompetents.
emasculating the NEC
gerrymandering the candidate list
obsessing over self ID
Stabbing her former mentor in the back
the massive loss of members speaks volumes about how she has severely weakened the party, and she has gotten away with it all so far. She is as mendacious as her husband, and if you think Westminster hasn't been cheering her on, give your head a wobble and do some research. In the grand scheme of things the embezzlement, while appalling, is small fry to what she has done.

I posted this about Sturgeon and her likely involvement in the £460K alleged embezzlement of SNP funds: "That timeline by the BBC is damning against Sturgeon."
This is what you posted very shortly after my post: "NS will not face any comeuppance- she's done exactly what her masters in Westminster want, made a laughing stock of the SNP and killed independence."

That clearly communicates the view that Sturgeon won't face any comeuppance in respect of the EMBEZZLEMENT (the subject of this thread) BECAUSE her masters are in Westminster, they have told her what to do and she has done it, thereby making a laughing stock of the SNP and ending all hope for independence.

The truth of course is that she doesn't have masters in Westminster, either in respect of the embezzlement or in respect of anything else (until very recently she herself was the "master" in Scotland). What she has done in Scotland is very much what she has wanted to do (carefully engineered by getting friends and ideological allies into important jobs and paying groups from government funds and then obliging those groups to support her ideological aims (eg transwomen in rape crisis centres and women's prisons)). This mess is on Sturgeon, Murrell and the SNP as a whole. Westminster may well be laughing - not because they hate Scotland and its people, but because they don't actually think that independence will benefit either Scotland or the rest of the UK. I've yet to see anything that suggests that they're wrong about that.

TheDameHelenShiteingMirren · 15/02/2026 11:35

Ophir · 14/02/2026 10:41

I see the faithful are claiming the trial has been put off until after the election in case he’s found innocent

How can they not see that that would point the finger in the direction of their precious Nicola? Confused

That would never do - their dear, sweet, innocent to her fingertips, pedestalled leader might end up in a cell with all the 'transwomen' she put there. Oh no, we couldn't have that.

Could we? 🤔

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 18/02/2026 18:41

Lord Advocate way too cosy with the SNP inner circle….