Who do you want to see as new First Minister?

[Rememberal]

And who do you think it'll be if they are different?

Not seen any threads on this yet!

My two cents -

I voted SNP when I was very young (Salmond) and under the impression they were a kinda catch-all working man's party who didn't do much to offend the left or right, but I stopped voting for them ages ago and recently started to actively despise them.

Normally I'm the polar opposite of the Reddit consensus and they seem to want Robertson but only, it seems, because they can't have Mhari Black (which is one MP I DO know and absolutely cannot stand). I feel like Forbes is the only one who'd bring them back to the centre and increase membership as she might attract everyone who left back.

So I suppose I'm a toss-up between Forbes who might pull them away from their more (imho) farcical policies and Black who might finally start to kill them dead in the water.

I do believe Sturgeon resigned because the recent polling data (where ALL age demographics agreed with the WM overturn including a large amount of SNP membership) showed that people vote SNP despite their progressive policies and not because of them. I reckon they knew it would really hurt them at the next election, and since she can't U-turn, the only thing left to do was step aside and let a new leader shift their direction.

I'm interested to know what people on here think though.

Oh ok.

I assumed his attendance at the supporters only event wouldn’t sit well as the hate that’s dealt out to tories by many independence supporters is often vitriolic.

so kate Forbes husband was at the hustings as a mole? the plot thickens…

kezia Dugdale was always a enigma politically though; didn’t she apply to work for the SNP before labour so perhaps very sympathetic to their cause? I find her a bit vacuous politically these days; nothing much to say on times radio and her column is dire, what does she do at the Fraser of Allender institute?

Rather than focusing on what Frobes husband might be doing perhaps they should look at what Murrell is actually doing. Then perhaps they can move forwar and sort out the shitstorm that Sturgeon and her acolytes have created. There are bigger things to worry about in the SNP camp.

Why is it a bad thing for politicians to be listening to the opposition and what other people think and want?

SNP for far too long didn't listening to view of their own party never mind anyone else. Surgeon seemed to live in an echo chamber anyone who didn't agree was booted out.

I agree @@Sugarfree23 we’ve become a one party state where the only true voice of the Scottish people is the SNP and every other political opinion is akin to treason. Listening to others’ viewpoints is vital if Forbes is serious about building consensus.

Not SNP but no issues from me. I think politicians should try to understand as many viewpoints as possible.

SNPs vitriolic attitude to the tory party, and by extension their voters, doesn't impress me. Someone having right wing views (which in most cases will be right of centre rather than far right) doesn't make them unworthy of being listened to or represented. They're a part of the makeup of Scotland and their views count.

Yes Scotland has become a one party state, actually it's been a dictatorship, and we need to break away from that.

They need to focus on the day job, schools, hospitals, and the economy. None of which are doing brilliant. Before going for independence and adding anything else to the mix.

Scotland has become a one party state, actually it's been a dictatorship, and we need to break away from that.

What a load of absolute bollocks.

The last time I looked there are the usual suspects of Lib Dems, Tories and Labour to choose from.

That they are all so crap that people vote for the SNP instead doesn't make a "one party state" or a "dictatorship". There are elections held every few years where people vote.

As far as MSPs are concerned Scotland pretty much gets what it votes for.

MPs are more problematic with vote share, but that's an issue across the UK, and can only be solved by PR for General Elections.

The SNP is propped up by the Greens. Almost no one voted for them yet they dictate government policy.

Lorna Slater was appointed as a minister.

1,727 people voted for Lorna Slater.
She was last out of 5 in the constituency vote.

Patrick Harvey was appointmened asis Minister.

3,251 people voted for Patrick Harvey.
He was 4th out of 5 in the constituency vote.

So , very much a one party state. The Unionist vote is split amongst 3 parties.

Wtaf. Scottish people voted by a large majority to stay in the EU just because Sturgeon told them to ? Now I've heard it all 😂

The majority of people in Scotland did not vote to stay in the EU - only 42% of voters did, 26% voted leave, 33% didn’t vote at all (101% due to my rounding). The non-voters could have swung the UK to remain if they had voted remain.

First polling of SNP members puts Humza marginally in the lead at 31%, Kate at 25%.

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32% undecided is pretty high and indicative of the poor quality of the candidates I would say.

Yep, it’s clear that there’s no-one in the party that can unite it (and the rest of Scotland). My money is on Yousaf - he’ll continue down the same old path of self-destruction as Nicola and the rest of us will have to watch our country falling around our ears. An utter disaster because y’know - independence. They couldn’t be trusted to make a sandwich independently.

Scotland is definitely a one party state
NS ran the party like a dictator
Now the shit is hitting the fan

Well that poll shows why I don't vote SNP, I'd pick Forbes over Yousaf. I can't see what Yousaf can offer that's new, whereas Forbes with the pro business changes seems to be wanting to take the SNP back to a growth focus that they've dropped the ball on badly in the last few years.

As another non SNP voter if I had to have one of them I'd pick Forbes. Yousaf's a nasty of work and Regan's plain bonkers.

piece of work....

I’m liking Kate Forbes despite myself. When I hear her speak, she sounds genuine and considered.

For the destruction of the SNP I’m hoping it’s Yousaf.

For the tiny glimmer of hope that someone with a bit of sense comes in to fix the horrendous state of the country…it’s Forbes.

That said…I’m not sure I could ever forgive her for the tax shambles.

Ash Regan will surely pull out….where will her votes go….I’d presume Forbes over Yousaf?

I suspect the fact non SNP voter prefer Forbes (I do) won’t cut much ice for her with her electors though. I’ve read that the party leadership are lining up behind Yousaf. But I agree with Forbes, he doesn’t have a record of any success.

I can't understand why the SNP are lining up behind Yunsaf.
Something doesn't make sense, but then does anything SNP do make sense?

They're lining up behind him because he's the one most likely to carry forward the work of Saint Nic - bringing in one of the others will open them up to all manner of scrutiny and will force them to admit they've been wrong on so many levels about so many things. The opposition parties and the press will have an absolute field day - Yousaf will keep everything under the tartan rug.

Forbes is the only one who seems to grasp the fact that we need to grow the economy and get consensus for independence - the other 2 are more concerned about trotting out the same old nationalist rhetoric.

That is actually a surprise. I thought it would be Kate leading.

Yousless is most likely to defend the rug covering the huge pile of steaming shite that has been swept under it over the last 15 years.

Kate might check under it and Ash would trip over it.

I think Kate did best last night.

The daft thing is that if they want to achieve their stated goal - independence - then they need a leader who appeals beyond the current SNP voters.

But it looks like Humza defending the levitating rug of shame is more important.

Absolutely - the only way they’re going to grow their support is to provide the majority unionists with evidence that they could run a country well and make an economic success of it. At the moment they couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery - that’s very evident.