Violent child in primary class

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Looking to find out what we can do about a violent child in our daughters primary class. Happy to out myself if necessary. A boy in the class has behaved in a pretty shocking way for a long time now, and this week was my daughters turn to be on the recieveing end. He verbally threatened her to 'stab her in the eye', and then left the area, collected a pencil and then returned and poked her in the ear with it - fortunately not the eye.

School say they are doing all they can for the boy. They say there is no chance of him being moved, it's an inclusive society and they have a duty of care to all students. Even if he had blinded my daughter with the pencil, he would still have continued at school with them.

They also warned that if we move our daughters class or school there could be worse problems elsewhere.

I'm checking to see if this is actually correct? Does anyone have any experience of dealing with a violent child? Is this really all I can do for my daughter?

Where did I say they should be?

You did, by inferring that children on the spectrum's actions are defensible due to their condition. It's not an excuse to say "oh they can't help it"...that doesn't matter to the other child who has had to put up with violence. If they can't be in mainstream school without hitting others, take them out.

@Pidgythe2nd are you scotland? When this happened to us, I used their GIRFEC and shanarri legislation back at them. Its getting it right for EVERY child, not just certain ones, my child has a right to feel safe at school and not have the fear of being assaulted everyday with pathetic #bekind plaudits!

Woah, it’s crazy out there.

It’s not about the violent child. It’s about your bullied DD.

It’s a school not a psych hospital.

SEN aren’t the golden ticket to violence against others.

If schools ‘can’t do anything’, how do they propose satisfying their legal duty of care to DD?

Sanity may have left the building, but the law still applies.

Go in hard, OP. DDs rights are paramount here - I think DoC is overriding.

Duty of care or whatever.. I'd remove your child asap. They can't watch her 24/7 whilst she's in school, who knows what he is capable of?
I wouldn't even be thinking about it, I'd have done it already.

I suggest you read what I wrote again. I specifically say everyone is being failed by the councils’ refusal to place these children in the specialist settings they need. And by the fact so many of these settings have been closed down.

I remember back when I was 17 and a senior in high school, I was a student teacher for work experience in a kindergarten class.
There was a 5yrold little boy, smaller than the others, but violent. He would hit and shove and punch the other children and scream and interrupt the teacher while she read stories. He pushed children off the top of the slide, pushed them down on the blacktop and otherwise tried intentionally to injure them.
Yet they kept him in the classroom.
Finally, the teacher revealed to me that the boy’s mother was a heroin addict during her pregnancy. He needed specialized help.
This was a small rural California town in the 70s, with zero social services or outside help for families. Consequently, he received none.
I think about that little kid from time to time. I wonder whatever happened to him and if he’s even still alive.

In my experience getting the school to do anything will be a complaint to the council, and the council will do nothing so it will be a formal complaint to the Scottish public services ombudsman. Cause schools don’t care about the nice quiet well behaved kids. They can’t. They have limited resources and have been told they have to do x,y and z for the violent kids so they have to time for protecting the nice kids.

it’s grim, and if you point out it’s unacceptable you are looked upon as though you have two heads.

The SENDCO was unavailable to do her job?
How?
🙄

Oh my god. Literally attempted murder

The SENCO was doing her job, you missed the point.

First of all write a diary of everything you can include dates and what happened. Next put in a formal complaint to the head asking them in writing how exactly they plan to safeguard your DD in this situation. Reiterate GIRFEC is getting it right for every child which includes your child. Give them a date and time to reply to you in writing and a statement that if they don't reply by this date and deal with the violence your DD is being subjected to you will escalate the complaint to the head of education.

Also there are loads of comments about kids with Additional support needs being violent. It's not always a case a child who is violent has ASN needs. The most violent and abusive child in my kids school was nuerotypical with no support needs. He loved to bully and his favourite kids to target where those with ASN needs. He got away with assaulting and verbally abusing multiple autistic kids until he started on my oldest child. I created absolute hell in the school with the head teacher and eventually she dealt with him. As soon as P7 finished he threatened my son again and I phoned the police who promptly went to his parents door to warn them it stops now. They did this because they were on no doubt that he targeted my son because he is autistic and it was classed as a hate crime. Sadly had the head teacher dealt with him years ago properly he may have learned bullying others had consequences for him. Do not let the school brush this under the carpet. Your DD should not have to move because the school have failed in there duty of care yo her.