3 out of 10 of my DS's 15 year old friends are "trans"

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DS had his friends over. We were told there would be 9 boys and one girl when we asked who was coming.

When they turned up two were very obviously female. Neither of those were the "girl" though.

So 3 with trans identities out of a group of 10. Seems statistically improbable to me. And people say it's not a fashion or social contagion? 🤔

If all three remain trans into adulthood I will eat my hat.

Yet under Nicola's GRR reforms they could legally sign a statutory declaration and change their sex next year.

It's utterly ludicrous. Why are our children being failed so badly by our politicians?

Only 3?

my dd’s friendship group seems to be over 50%.

Some are now desisting though and turning up in make-up and crop tops Instead of boy clothes

Your message is confusing. You obviously dont know your childs friends very well yet hes only 10. And you end with an attack on Sturgeon. What are you actually trying to say for your article?

Hes 15 i meant. The rest stands.

It has become a trend. And when children we every young, they are quickly swayed. When I was younger, there was a hippie trend wearing Yolo T-shirts and SnapBacks. I followed suit too. I think it's almost become a similar proposition. Being trans is 'popular'. Crazy.

I hope you were hospitable to your son's friends, regardless of their sex or gender presentation. Not doing so would make you a bit of a rocket, quite frankly.

How rude ssd, OP’s message is clear that there were 10 friends and that her son is 15 - maybe get down off your high horse as it’s your reading comprehension at fault here.

and yes, OP, there does seem to very much be a social contagion element to all of this (that’s how teenagers operate) and it’s totally negligent to allow 16 year-olds to self-declare their gender.

Where did OP state otherwise and why would you insinuate this?

Don’t you think trans children would gravitate to each other in friendship groups though? I would guess there would be other friendship groups with no trans children so it balances out.

I used their preferred pronouns. They are all very nice.

He's 15. I know some of them very well including one of the females who I have given a lift to several times. The other two trans identifying were new to me.

This is a valid point.

A combination of social contagion and 'grooming' by social media and the Scottish Education system.

And @ssd. I think my point is very clear. We're told these kids will not desist, that if they say they are trans, they are trans and there is no social contagion going on, when it's very clear to me there is.

Yet our lawmakers who should be protecting these children are doing exactly the opposite and shutting their ears and eyes to things like the CASS review.

It's clear from reading these responses that some people are unaware of what is actually taking place and the impact this will have on our youth. It's a Trojan horse disguised as 'be kind', 'bring your whole self,' and political correctness.

This is really important petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

That’s my experience op, more than half of dd’s friends are trans or non binary. She has totally bought into it and believes they need drugs to change sex and halt puberty and I am a bigot for saying that they should wait. She also admits that she believes some of them have autism (she is autistic so claims to have an autism spotting sense) , eating disorders and / or abusive parents. Yet these poor kids aren’t having any form of counselling to help them unpick all these issues.

Just a trend. There are 4 in my ds2's year, of 300.

Ding dang is right - trans gravitate to being in a friendship group with other trans, so the numbers make sense.

It’s everywhere just now. Ds 15 asked to stay over at friends house the other week, male name always referred to as him. I said no problem, only later found out when I bumped into them in the street friend is clearly female but uses he/him pronouns, I was furious.

This is part of the issue. It doesn't help with safeguarding when sex is obscured in this way.

When I was at school, my friendship group was 5 girls and 4 boys. 2 of the boys were/ are gay. 2 of the girls were/ are bi. This was over 30 years ago. I think there has always been diversity amongst people but now people are more able to express themselves. My parents friendship groups at school probably had gay and trans members who were not able to express this at the time.

My husband is a high school teacher and for a short time they allowed the kids to decide if they wanted to be referred to as a different name/gender. When it turned out that so many were doing this they had a clamp down and now only after several meetings with parents and pastoral care etc can they decide they are x name and gender. My husband said it got to the point that it was a daily occurance that someone else was now a boy/girl and a different name.

It's all nonsense and basically the modern day equivalent of when we had goths and people who wanted to dye their hair green, wear black and pierce their face. They grow out of it eventually, its just trying to be different (by copying everyone else!).

Slightly different but all my friend’s daughters are lesbians.

In my sons year group at a tiny Independent school (he’s 15) 7 out of about 23 identify as trans. It mainly involves hair cuts, fashion shifts and regular pronoun juggling. 4 that I know have autism, possibly more. It’s a very neurodiverse group (and school). 3 came out on same day.
I imagine if the adults just stay out of it they will have moved onto something else soon…some already have.
my son thinks it’s a minefield and just uses they/them for everyone including our cat now. (I have discussed with him why I think that’s problematic from a feminist perspective, but he’s navigating dangerous waters, so I can see his point too)!
Teens have always played with identity, often in ways older generations find difficult to understand and that’s fine and healthy, but there is a real risk here and I hope our kids find a way to navigate this safely.
I’d like to see them keeping elements of the exploration without the rigid (and ultimately misogynistic) binary philosophy that underpins it. In my sons group I’m also aware teenage mindset often combines with neurodiversity to make for a tricky balance when discussing anything perceived as morally unquestionable.

This with bells on.

My teen DD thinks I'm old fashioned and don't understand. But essentially I reckon it's mostly a phase.