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Guilt Free Railing 17

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WouldBeGood · 01/01/2022 10:05

Happy New Thread, Railers!

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Lockdownbear · 19/01/2022 13:03

@WoodstockJ feel free the more the merrier.

It really is disgusting that the current S6 will never have sat a proper exam before leaving school.

I can't remember if it was this thread or elsewhere a poster was commenting the current Uni First years are struggling and it was being put down to lack of exam experience.

MarshmallowFondant · 19/01/2022 13:05

My First year uni student is struggling but that's because he's never in the fucking place.

4 sessions between now and Easter. Whoop de do.

WouldBeGood · 19/01/2022 13:06

Hi @WoodstockJ - rail away!

I’m railing as England lifting all mask mandates , and vaccine passports, and WFH as of next week.

Might move.

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Y0uCann0tBeSer10us · 19/01/2022 13:12

@WouldBeGood

Hi *@WoodstockJ* - rail away!

I’m railing as England lifting all mask mandates , and vaccine passports, and WFH as of next week.

Might move.

I've thought about it more than once @WouldBeGood! It comes to something when you feel so oppressed you consider uprooting your life for a bit of freedom!

Masks to go in schools from tomorrow in England. Maybe this will remind the various people up here who should be asking questions but don't that our kids have been stuck in them continuously all year!

shouldistop · 19/01/2022 13:22

@WouldBeGood

I know I’m not permitted to say this but I think she’d be different on this if she had children.
My mum has been saying that for 18 months now and she's on the more cautious side with Covid. It's the "I know this is hard" when talking about schools and nurseries being shut that really fucked me off. No you don't know.
Pootle40 · 19/01/2022 13:59

@WouldBeGood

Hi *@WoodstockJ* - rail away!

I’m railing as England lifting all mask mandates , and vaccine passports, and WFH as of next week.

Might move.

I thought exactly the same. Time for this nonsense to end North of the border too. The fact he has said soon we won't need to self isolate either. Frankly can't come soon enough and we treat it like other illnesses.
Scottishskifun · 19/01/2022 14:06

So an infection expert has said they should be lifted end of Feb......
SG still saying no timetable and need to be cautious......

For a govt which constantly says "it follows the science" would love to see the science on schools and general usage protection wise. Given a leading US Dr said cloth masks are a face decoration against omicron.

FFP2 are a different ball game but we all know that won't get brought in because they would have to pay for it..... and they refuse to give up independence campaign hundreds of millions

ResilienceWanker · 19/01/2022 14:26

On board with all the exam railing... I'm assuming the reasoning is not that things will be really bad infection-wise by May, but that there will be some students who have had extended periods of isolation or whatever (who hasn't...), and it wouldn't be fair that they were made to do the exams under those circumstances. But ultimately, the SG can't keep using such cases (as a result of the SGs own policies) to disturb and disrupt the diet for everyone (and Yy to first year undergrads struggling because they haven't had ANY exam experience...that was me, recounting DHs experience of marking a first year exam! ). There are always some children who have periods of illness/ bereavement/ domestic issues which mean they miss much of the curriculum in an exam year, and indeed it isn't fair that they are judged against students without those hindrances. But there are special circumstance considerations/ resits etc that can partly redress the balance for those individuals. Or they just move on with less than stellar results and build their life from that point instead. It's disappointing and unfair, but no one is suggesting the entire cohort is held back to cater for those few students.

On the plus side, there is an article on the BBC website suggesting that masks in schools are likely to go in Feb, AND MASKS FOR EVERYONE ELSE SOON THEREAFTER. OK, it was only the opinion of one of their covid pundits, and they had the depressing counter-statement from JS saying "oh, we hope kids won't have to sit exams in May with masks..." but I think it's the first time I've ever seen an acknowledgement from an "expert" that there may at some point in the foreseeable future be an unmasked Scotland. It made me a bit happier anyway.

On a less happy note, I was also reading this article about meningitis increasing in students - only tiny numbers overall, but higher this year than previous (pre covid) years. Seemingly partly due to the "immune debt" caused by not being exposed to germs when mixing with others. It's just another example of the supposedly "neutral" policy of minimising or totally forbidding interactions/ social distancing/ hybrid learning and so on actually not being neutral at all - even in terms of preventing illnesses, let alone all the other problems it causes.

TeenTraumaTrials · 19/01/2022 14:27

*So an infection expert has said they should be lifted end of Feb......
SG still saying no timetable and need to be cautious......

For a govt which constantly says "it follows the science" would love to see the science on schools and general usage protection wise.*

This in spades.

TeenTraumaTrials · 19/01/2022 14:27

oops bold fail

MarshmallowFondant · 19/01/2022 14:35

Yes I saw the same expert - it was the Christine woman who has been very conservative (with a small c) and cautious throughout.

But again, it really comes down to who is making the decisions. At the moment, it's Larry Flanagan, and that doom mongering Devi woman.

OldaRailer · 19/01/2022 14:36

All I can say on exams is if its not yet decided LOBBY your local SNP representatives.
Unbelievable tbh where we are now.

They may well regret more of us didn't get Omicron when the next variant shows up.

As for masks. The science seems very muddy right now. If anyone has links I'm interested!

(Except for "Professor Sridhar says. ." I'm not convinced at all by her credentials after what's been said earlier on zero covid and looking at her general output on social media.)

OldaRailer · 19/01/2022 14:38

I should have say get exposure to Omicron.

2022HereWeCome · 19/01/2022 14:43

I've been living in Scotland for almost 25 years and I cannot bear the country it's become. If I didn't have DS at school here I would move to Manchester.

2022HereWeCome · 19/01/2022 14:44

Mind you the Curriculum for Excellence is anything but and educational standards have dropped ...

Lockdownbear · 19/01/2022 14:50

@2022HereWeCome

I've been living in Scotland for almost 25 years and I cannot bear the country it's become. If I didn't have DS at school here I would move to Manchester.
I know! It totally amazes me the number of English people on MN who want to move to Scotland. If it wasn't for family we would seriously consider up sticks and leaving. We know a family who have just gone to Australia.
ResilienceWanker · 19/01/2022 15:08

@MarshmallowFondant

Yes I saw the same expert - it was the Christine woman who has been very conservative (with a small c) and cautious throughout.

But again, it really comes down to who is making the decisions. At the moment, it's Larry Flanagan, and that doom mongering Devi woman.

Yes that's her! I realise I sounded a bit rude to put "expert" in inverted commas! She is undoubtedly an actual expert - a virologist (specifically pigs I think, but still, better credentials than many Grin) but I'm not sure how much of an expert in predicting what SG policy is going to be a few months down the line that makes her. I'm not sure even many of the SG are experts in that.

I can't say I haven't considered moving! Though partly DH is more tied to our current location than I am, job-wise. And also, I feel we're now sucked into the Scottish educational system, as I have no idea how DS would fare under the National Curriculum rather than CFE. There seems to be huge swathes of things he would be expected to know under the English system that he hasn't touched... not that they are all necessary and worthwhile things, but still! Though he's currently going through the whole "Scotland invented Penicillin" stuff (no... no it didn't...it's a country. Someone who was born in Scotland and moved to England in his teens was part of a research team in London that discovered and developed it.. ) which I think is exactly what the CFE is supposed to be doing. ("You might like to find out about some more Scottish inventions or discoveries at home..."). He's also been doing transport in Scotland. I remember wouldbegood (?) saying about how Scotland's great transport links were being promoted, so I asked if they were taught about Scotlands great transport links... and he said" yes - how did you know? "... GrinConfused

WouldBeGood · 19/01/2022 15:27

@ResilienceWanker 🤣

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mapleleavesreturn · 19/01/2022 15:41

Yes locked into education here for now, otherwise we'd probably have caved to temptation to be free of having to mentally engage with CfE and the SNP.

I'm still holding onto the idea of Edinburgh and any other no majority places seceding from Scotland in the event of Indy. There are no enforceable borders after all.

I have studied a lot of history and politics - I cannot ever remember it being through a lense of being proud of anything.

WhatWouldTheDoctorDo · 19/01/2022 16:15

I really regret not having upped sticks and moving before we were sucked into high school years. We're currently in S2 choices mode and between the home 'education' for a whole term last year, curtailed school activities, and getting at least one cover teacher most days 'cos, covid' I don't know how DS can make informed choices about what subjects to take (particularly given he has no idea what he'd like to do when he is older). I know it's always hard but it's an added dimension and I can see he's really anxious about making the right decision.

Lockdownbear · 19/01/2022 16:23

I do feel for kids trying to do options especially last years second years who were home schooled for a term of first year and a whole term of second year.

Many people forget this is the 3rd school year that's been affected by covid. Covid might only be around 2 years but this is the 3rd academic year.

WhatWouldTheDoctorDo · 19/01/2022 16:40

Completely agree @Lockdownbear

RaraRachael · 19/01/2022 17:22

I live by the seaside and we are currently inundated with people moving from England with houses selling within days. Why on earth do they want to move here, apart from getting more property for their money, although there are cheaper areas in England than here. If I could afford it I'd be off tomorrow, but sadly the areas I'd like to move to are outwith my price bracket.

I honestly can't see the SG giving up the mask wearing any time soon as it shows we're better than England - we're more cautious - we're more interested in keeping our people safe - we care more......

My arse - ditch the useless things now and let us live again.

WouldBeGood · 19/01/2022 17:26

Chris Musson on Twitter saying he’d asked them about masks in schools, and the response was “as the position hadn’t changed there’s no update at present”.

Not good enough!

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Lockdownbear · 19/01/2022 17:27

I'm sure it's that grass is greener and people are attracted by the 'free' stuff, Uni, prescriptions, etc but actually they forget that it is robbed from elsewhere.