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Guilt Free Railing 17

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WouldBeGood · 01/01/2022 10:05

Happy New Thread, Railers!

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WouldBeGood · 10/01/2022 17:13

Railing against all the sports currently banned in Scotland: I hadn’t realised! It’s nuts! And completely random. Honestly, the SG is insane

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MaxNormal · 10/01/2022 17:30

They have such a warped idea of public health I don't even know where to begin.

Lockdownbear · 10/01/2022 17:44

@WouldBeGood

Railing against all the sports currently banned in Scotland: I hadn’t realised! It’s nuts! And completely random. Honestly, the SG is insane
Some of those will mean kids / adults haven't taken part in sport for two years. Ridiculous. And very difficult to get things back up and running once they've stopped.

Mildly amused that frisby is a sport!Grin

GoldenOmber · 10/01/2022 17:49

Argh whyyyyy is NS on STV News talking about ‘what adaptations to pre-pandemic life might be required in the longer-term’ and saying masks might stay?

We’re going to end up in January of 2047 still traipsing around in masks and having fingers wagged at us for non-essential bus journeys, while England have no restrictions at all and still have lower cases, aren’t we…

mapleleavesreturn · 10/01/2022 17:59

Because January just isn't depressing enough already?

WouldBeGood · 10/01/2022 18:09

She’s always saying people don’t mind masks, which isn’t my experience

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WouldBeGood · 10/01/2022 18:10

Yes, lots of people wear them, but noone likes them, and few believe they do anything.

In fact, it’s particularly ludicrous given the new evidence which shows they’re crap

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OnceUponAWhine · 10/01/2022 18:22

@WouldBeGood

Railing against all the sports currently banned in Scotland: I hadn’t realised! It’s nuts! And completely random. Honestly, the SG is insane
Saw Chris Musson posted this today- I really could not believe the length of the list! Not holding my breath for any radical changes announced tomorrow.
Calmdown14 · 10/01/2022 18:23

I think NS and JL are severely misjudging public mood just now. The messaging of doom is doing my head in.
My mum considered booking a holiday in Wales for later in the year then decided against it based on their love of additional rules. So England it is.
Must be having an impact on our tourism and visitor numbers. It was masked last year by lack of foreign holidays but this year I think we'll notice more

GoldenOmber · 10/01/2022 18:39

Welsh government is as bonkers as ours. Banning Parkrun in the name of public health!

I do think some politicians need to wean themselves off the idea they can hold back everything bad in the world if only they keep banning stuff and restricting people.

GoldenOmber · 10/01/2022 18:39

Sorry sorry, not restrictions… protections Hmm

ElephantOfRisk · 10/01/2022 18:42

I think NS and JL are severely misjudging public mood just now

That's what I thought but on SM I'm still seeing loads of folk who support all this guff and also elsewhere on MNet. Are we back in a silent minority situation where folk who disagree are disagreeing quietly and just getting on with life with their mouth shut? The pro restrictions seem to think they are occupying the moral high ground so unless you are quite sure of yourself, it seems easier to keep schtum.

Everything in life is very polarised now

GoldenOmber · 10/01/2022 18:46

My English family think our government are brilliant with all the extra restrictions. “It’s so much more sensible than what Boris is doing!”

I did point out that England had lower case rates (at the time and now) so whether or not it was ‘sensible’ it didn’t seem to actually be working - but who cares about results, as long as it all feels Very Sensible to people that’s all that matters. Sigh.

Cismyfatarse · 10/01/2022 19:04

We have a holiday property in Edinburgh city centre that we rent out. We normally take about 40% of our year's bookings over the 2 week Christmas holiday. We have taken none at all. We normally have about 25-30 bookings by now. We have 6. All our bookings have been carried forward or are regular repeat business.

This is my FiL's life savings and it is getting tough to see if we can keep it going if she doesn't listen to business owners.

MaxNormal · 10/01/2022 19:18

Cismyfatarse I'm so sorry, what a total nightmare. It's certainly illustrated how much the SG value business, hasn't it.

I really hope that we're in fact the silent majority. Many people I think do stay silent in the face of the pro-restriction lot claiming the moral high ground but I don't know if what's posted on MN is indicative anyway - I think it's in the main quite middle-class and left-leaning, which is the group most likely to be pro measures. Certainly the Facebook comments below the Glasgow Live posts are a very different tone.

I also find it bizarre that people are so pro Sturgeon's additional measures that are doing nothing but damage. It's either tribal or an almost superstitious, puritanical view that we must somehow suffer and sacrifice to covid even if it does nothing tangible. It's odd.

WouldBeGood · 10/01/2022 19:18

Oh, that’s such a shame @Cismyfatarse.

I speak out about it @ElephantOfRisk as I think the only way they’ll stop is if people do.

I overheard two normal guys chatting in the post office today. “The places I’ve been have had a fluid interpretation of the guidelines” Reply: “Quite right too, stupid”

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user1487194234 · 10/01/2022 19:39

What JLsaid made no sense at all
Not unusually

Haudyourwheesht · 10/01/2022 19:49

Everyone I work with and almost everyone I've spoken to thinks it's time to go back to normal. We're all double, mostly triple vaxxed, so what now? Walk about with an IV of Pfizer on a trolley so we can keep ourselves constantly topped up with vaccine, while wearing masks on the bus and not going anywhere with more than three other people and not going anywhere at all after 7pm? It can't go on forever.

runningpink · 10/01/2022 19:53

My niece can’t go back to rainbows at the moment as the church hall isn’t allowing bookings again cos of covid!

It’s just ridiculous.

She can feck right off if she thinks anyone will willingly wear masks much longer. Iv had enough

RaraRachael · 10/01/2022 19:56

OH anxiety gave abided by all her shitey rules yet still caughf it.
Back to school today freezing to death and kids back to eating lunches in classrooms. WTAF?
Heard some guy on telly tonight suggesting that we will have to learn to live with it. First sensible thing I've heard in ages. Pity the SG still want us under their thumb Angry

RaraRachael · 10/01/2022 19:58

Sorry- OH and I have .....

I hate tapping stuff out on this bloody phone

GoldenOmber · 10/01/2022 19:59

This was from the SG's previous Strategic Framework, all the way back in November. This sounds mostly fairly sensible to me. But it seems like we are not staying with this, because...??????

When the COVID-19 pandemic in Scotland moves into this endemic, less acute phase, we expect that more routine public health measures may be sufficient to keep the virus under control in Scotland, though there would continue to be the risk of occasional surges, driven – for example - by seasonality (as we see with influenza), by waning immunity or by new variants and we would need to respond appropriately.

The future management of COVID-19 may potentially include periodic booster vaccinations, ongoing testing for surveillance, monitoring and diagnostic purposes, international travel measures (including those retained by other countries), improved ventilation in buildings, the continuation of enhanced hygiene measures, voluntary wearing of face-coverings when symptomatic, and staying off work when suffering from contagious illnesses.

These measures and behaviours would have positive benefits beyond just tackling COVID-19, with the prospect of wider public health, societal and economic benefits for the long term. Most of these are already in place now, thanks to the efforts and understanding of so many. We are learning how important they are, and how to bring more normality back to our lives. We can look forward with increasing confidence to the removal of the few legal measures that currently remain necessary, while we complete and maintain the protection that good public health measures can give us.

I don't get why she is now talking about requiring restrictions on our lives long-term rather than 'the removal of the few legal measures that currently remain necessary'.

Scottishskifun · 10/01/2022 20:14

Wearing masks long term is not bloody normal!
I would understand in hospitals at a push but even if I didn't have a medical exemption I would not wear one long term and nor do I wish my child to think it's normal!

Weirdly the longer Borris remains the more pressure she will be under long term to get rid of a lot of these things!

Lockdownbear · 10/01/2022 21:26

I honestly don't think people will tolerate masks and stuff beyond spring, especially when England ditch them again, and unless people have a reason to test, ie a vulnerable family member they'll be loathed to test too.

Logically if someone is vulnerable due to chemo or whatever we should be lat flow testing for colds, and flu as well as covid, before going to visit .

Ladylunchalot · 10/01/2022 21:29

@WouldBeGood

Railing against all the sports currently banned in Scotland: I hadn’t realised! It’s nuts! And completely random. Honestly, the SG is insane
Not sure about all of those sports but I do taekwondo and classes are still on. No sparring for adults and no close contact work but there's still a lot of other things that can and are being done.
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