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Salmond v Sturgeon round 4. What next?

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Cismyfatarse · 05/03/2021 18:09

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StatisticallyChallenged · 18/03/2021 19:24

I note this is specifically that she misled the inquiry - not parliament. There's not much detail but I'm taking this as her testimony was misleading rather than being about the original possible code breach of misleading parliament?

TokyoSushi · 18/03/2021 19:33

Oh wow, so what happens now?

Graffitiqueen · 18/03/2021 19:33

So Andy Wightman did the right thing in the end?

WaxOnFeckOff · 18/03/2021 19:41

The full report etc has not been concluded upon.

Twitter going on about that it must have been inadvertently...

StatisticallyChallenged · 18/03/2021 19:44

This is, I think, only a small part of the reporting. This bit seems to be around whether she offered to intervene and how long she kept speaking to Salmond for.

WaxOnFeckOff · 18/03/2021 19:47

Is it going to be drip fed to lessen any impact?

I don't have high hopes for this, the Hamilton one is probably the more important, although I think the committee investigation has obviously given us a lot more information about the extent of the lies and corruption.

Graffitiqueen · 18/03/2021 19:49

So this isn't the final outcome? 🙄

anon444877 · 18/03/2021 19:51

No surprise that the snp response has been to rubbish the inquiry of the Scottish parliament. Now who is calling Scottish institutions into disrepute?

Bytheloch · 18/03/2021 19:52

BREAKING Holyrood committee finding on Sturgeon: "Her written evidence is, therefore, an inaccurate account of what happened and she has misled the committee on this matter. This is a potential breach of the ministerial code under the terms of section 1.3 (c)."

Bytheloch · 18/03/2021 19:52

Sorry for the bold drama there

StatisticallyChallenged · 18/03/2021 20:00

@Graffitiqueen

So this isn't the final outcome? 🙄
It's only a part of it. Unless I've misunderstood the remit it isn't one of the questions they set out to answer (I'm pretty sure "is a witness misleading the inquiry" wasn't part of the original remit) so there is still much more to come.
TokyoSushi · 18/03/2021 20:01

Just watching the programme on it now on BBC1

ResilienceWanker · 18/03/2021 20:06

Crikey. Wasn't expecting that... So that (misleading the inquiry) might itself be a breach of the ministerial code? Regardless of what Hamilton finds, and the actual report of the committee - which I think was going to look at the ministerial code as part of its remit? That's looking quite bad. No wonder there's an immediate rebuttal casting doubt on the independence of the committee and saying it was biased from the outset Hmm. Maybe if there hadn't been so many SNP politicians on it it could have been more unanimous. Or maybe if NS had been more believable more of the committee may have believed her. Who knows?!

StatisticallyChallenged · 18/03/2021 20:09

@TokyoSushi

Just watching the programme on it now on BBC1
The executive producer, Shelley Jofre, is the daughter of a former SNP MSP (now deceased) who Nicola Sturgeon campaigned for when she was young and seems to have remained close to. So that may influence the stance
littlbrowndog · 18/03/2021 20:12

Oh unexpected

Just watching panorama

StatisticallyChallenged · 18/03/2021 20:13

@ResilienceWanker

Crikey. Wasn't expecting that... So that (misleading the inquiry) might itself be a breach of the ministerial code? Regardless of what Hamilton finds, and the actual report of the committee - which I think was going to look at the ministerial code as part of its remit? That's looking quite bad. No wonder there's an immediate rebuttal casting doubt on the independence of the committee and saying it was biased from the outset Hmm. Maybe if there hadn't been so many SNP politicians on it it could have been more unanimous. Or maybe if NS had been more believable more of the committee may have believed her. Who knows?!
Yes that's my reading of it; in defencing herself against allegations of breaking the ministerial code she may have broken the ministerial code Hmm

I suspect Wightman won't be too impressed by that statement

WaxOnFeckOff · 18/03/2021 20:18

The executive producer, Shelley Jofre, is the daughter of a former SNP MSP (now deceased) who Nicola Sturgeon campaigned for when she was young and seems to have remained close to. So that may influence the stance

I believe she might have known NS since she was 16....:o

WaxOnFeckOff · 18/03/2021 20:20

According to Wings, she told another lie today. They just trip of the tongue.

Tamingofthehamster · 18/03/2021 20:24

That will explain why it seems very pro-Nicola. Does anyone know why Val McDermoid is featuring so much?

littlbrowndog · 18/03/2021 20:25

I know

Why is val on this

She is an author. Of crime novels

Why ?

StatisticallyChallenged · 18/03/2021 20:28

I'm currently being subjected to Peppa Pig.

I have a feeling it might be better...

Tamingofthehamster · 18/03/2021 20:31

That was a waste of time.

fandabbydoozy · 18/03/2021 20:33

Its the Hamilton enquiry that matters though, isn't it?

Does this outcome matter much?

StatisticallyChallenged · 18/03/2021 20:36

Both matter, I think. Hamilton is specifically on the ministerial code, the committee is wider but also includes a phase on the code

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