Salmond v Sturgeon Round 3 — Comment along with Sturgeon

[PolkadotsAndMoonbeams]

Previous thread here.

The sums of money are staggering.

@StatisticallyChallenged

Andrew Neil who for some reason does not remember he is also Scottish

Can you explain what you mean by this?

Yes I would like know the answer to that also

Who was it that met the claimants then led the process?

When you see this (pinched off twitter) for the reasons other FM's have been forced to resign, it's pretty pathetic that the SNP can basically brazen their way through this with sturgeon clinging onto her job.

@StarryEyeSurprise

Who was it that met the claimants then led the process?

Do you mean the investigating officer? That was Judith McKinnon (might be Mac not Mc)

Or the decision maker (can't remember the technical term) which was Leslie Evans.

Yes, not voting for the SNP or for independence renders you anti Scottish

@StarryEyeSurprise

Who was it that met the claimants then led the process?

that is all in the published documents.

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I reckon someone should tell Andrew “nae numpties allowed” Neil he’s forgotten his roots.

Bailey covered why the decision to continue beyond 31st Oct was the point where they made a decision which was against both the public interest (cost implications) & the complainants interests (they could reset the process & investigation at that point too).

that's Bailey's view, which to be fair, is hardly an unbiased non politically motivated assessment.

yes, on October 31st that is when the two options (disclosure re McKinnon etc/reset) were put on the table, discussion then followed for a period through November. It was the December (6th i think) letter that advised they no longer had a 'stateable case'. If they'd ploughed on regardless beyond this then I would agree they would have went against legal advise. But they didn't

It wasn't just Bailey talking about this (much as she tried to make it that way). Nicola Sturgeon went into all this in depth as well. Repeatedly.

But that is to suggest there was some virtue in the timings - there isn’t despite what has been said. Lawyers forced the issue

@TheShadowyFeminist

When you see this (pinched off twitter) for the reasons other FM's have been forced to resign, it's pretty pathetic that the SNP can basically brazen their way through this with sturgeon clinging onto her job.

yes, we went into some of that on the previous thread but the comments about each one are interesting and new to me.

I'd also add that McLeish didn't even personally benefit from that £36k and yet he still repaid it.

I wonder if la sturgeon and the rest will be dipping in to refund the money they wasted?

@WaxOnFeckOff

Giving straight answers would maybe have stopped the questions being repetitive?

I don't think that's fair. She has a right to question the premise of the questions asked. I think she made a good argument against many of them, but a lot of time was spent asking the same questions over and over. I think it would have been much quicker and clearer if the committee was made up of so many political opponents hoping to make mischief.

"If they'd ploughed on regardless beyond this then I would agree they would have went against legal advise. But they didn't"

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As part of the process for the recovery of evidence, a Commission (a formal hearing) was held between 19 and 21 December 2018 before a Commissioner appointed by the court after the Petitioner [Salmond] had lodged a description of further evidence that he wanted to obtain from the Scottish Government

Do you have any idea what this did to the costs involved? This was necessary because the government failed to disclose relevant documents, causing professional embarrassment to their own counsel.

Was this "following the legal advice"?

@Motheroffourdragons

It is just his ant Scottish government rantings - as if he is not Scottish! Just me then, sorry!

Sadly not just you.

@Motheroffourdragons

It is just his ant Scottish government rantings - as if he is not Scottish! Just me then, sorry!

I'm Scottish. Am I not allowed to rant about the SG? I find your comment pretty offensive tbh

Did you know Andrew Neil’s favorite fruit is a banana?

True.

Here's the link I forgot to add where that quote comes from

Linked blog Gordon Dangerfield

Yikes, I meant quicker and clearer if committee wasn't political opponents

It would have been quicker and clearer if Linda fabiani had managed the process better. Or managed it at all.

I don't think ranting about the politics of your country makes you un-Scottish. But there's been a real tendency over recent years that criticising Scotland, the parliament, SNP, devolution etc are all anti scottish. Oh and voting Tory.