Here come those tiers again.

[Cismyfatarse]

New Fred.

My daughter (17 & CEV) had her vaccine last week.

glad to hear that sexnotgender, it's the main good thing about now, hearing of people getting their vaccines.

@Sexnotgender I remember your thread last week.
So glad you got it sorted and she's had her jab

This is why the envelopes were blue, and were widely publicised as such - so people wouldn't just chuck them. Apparently they asked the Royal Mail what colour would be most distinctive.

[quote Sootess]@Sexnotgender I remember your thread last week.
So glad you got it sorted and she's had her jab[/quote]
I meant to come back and update it and got sidetracked! Yes delighted she managed to get it!

I can say from doing paper ticket organising, there's no envelope colour people can't lose, gold, neon, I've tried it!

That's chris whitty in the briefing implying that we might have social distancing measures every winter. I wonder if that applies to face masks too

Social distancing every winter 🤔
1, Define winter - it better not be September to April.
2, What exactly do they mean face covering in shops, that I could live with.

But this is the last Christmas I'm spending with SD crackers and a patio door open.

@Sexnotgender

My daughter (17 & CEV) had her vaccine last week.

Oh brill! Glad to hear it. That must be a big weight off your mind.

@Sexnotgender that's great.

Social distancing every winter? Wtf.

@Lockdownbear

Social distancing every winter 🤔 1, Define winter - it better not be September to April. 2, What exactly do they mean face covering in shops, that I could live with.

But this is the last Christmas I'm spending with SD crackers and a patio door open.

Oh God. If they mean wfh where possible, and not getting too close in shops I can probably cope with that. If they mean not being able to meet your family inside, and not being able to go to the theatre, concerts, church or whatever over Christmas, I'm not up for it, thanks. I'd quite like to ditch masks too, though I'd tolerate being asked to wear them in public if I have a cold or am coughing/ sneezing a lot.

I think one of the things I'm finding most difficult is the implicit assumption that other people are just mobile petri dishes of germs, and the aim is to get them through your shop/ workplace/ bus or whatever as quickly as possible without them touching anything with their germy hands or infecting you or anyone else. It's quite a horrible view of life frankly, and I'd really like it to disappear and let us start seeing everyone else as people again, who are often quite nice to interact with, even in a shallow smiley way in passing. Sorry. Maybe that should be on the railing thread.

And I'd like the government not to view those interactions on a scale of how disapproving they are....from "against guidance" to "contrary to regulations and we will fine you". Thanks.

where is the railing thread?

Sexnotgender that's great news

Thanks, it’s such good news for us. Both my parents, daughter and husband have now had their first dose. DH gets his second dose in about 3 weeks. I’m pregnant and not vulnerable so no vaccine for me.

@jabbathebutt

where is the railing thread?

It's here jabba I'm doing impotent howling at the moon there and measured, considered and eloquent posts here ... of course.

I don't understand the thing about social distancing forever, masks etc. Matt Hancock said the other day we'd have coronavirus become endemic within the population and get used to a few thousands deaths each year, same as flu.

Fine. Except, who is going to be dying in these huge numbers if we're all vaccinated?

Thanks for everyone answering me question.

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@AudacityOfHope

I don't understand the thing about social distancing forever, masks etc. Matt Hancock said the other day we'd have coronavirus become endemic within the population and get used to a few thousands deaths each year, same as flu.

Fine. Except, who is going to be dying in these huge numbers if we're all vaccinated?

Exactly this. Would expect some deaths from very elderly and vulnerable, those who don't get vaccinated. Why on earth would we need continued social distancing?

Possibly to stop the mutations evolving?

We don't try to stop flu mutating though do we, we just have a vaccine that tries to predict the likeliest prevalent strain.

I guess so but it's hard to picture implementing it forever more!

I can only assume that they are worried about the mutations more than they would be about any flu mutations. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@goodname that sounds like an interesting experiment.