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kamalasshaman · 25/01/2021 21:43

At a time when polls are showing unprecedented support for independence and even John Curtice agrees the polls are clear, why is Scotsnet such a bastion of unionist opinions? Is it just due to the demographic of Mumsnet? Why has this site become such a right wing enclave?

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WaxOnFeckOff · 05/02/2021 20:10

I think Barclays may rethink building a large office when Financial Services and other areas who have large amounts of staff at home are looking to offer much more home working with smaller office hubs available for dropping in/occasional working.

Jobs can be done from virtually anywhere and an indy scotland would need to set up a new regulatory body (which is always funded by the companies it regulates) as well as remain signed up to the FCA. I can't see them bothering with the extra cost when they can keep their business base in the UK and can continue to employ staff wherever they want as long as they meet requirements about secure data etc which to be honest most already have as they use/store data in other countries such as india.

Graffitiqueen · 05/02/2021 20:15

I think so too wax. My employer have terminated the lease on 3 of the 5 floors in our building. We're all moving to wfh contracts.

WaxOnFeckOff · 05/02/2021 20:23

We haven't had any confirmation yet but in 2 years we've gone from people being made redundant as the company didn't want any home workers, to asking people what they'd ideally like in terms of continued home working. Our client is moving out of the building we share and building something smaller as they were already moving to a more flexible working style. I have to say I am struggling with it now but also don't want to go back. I think the issue is more that the lockdown means that there is little to do outside of the house and the weather has meant I've not been able to even get out for 20 minutes at lunch. I think lockdown and working outside the house is doable or working at home with no lockdown is doable. Home working plus lockdown is increasingly depressing.

Californiabakes · 05/02/2021 20:54

I think the investment by barclays shows a commitment to Scotland when commissioned even though i agree the picture has changed due to the pandemic. Theres a huge amount of building going on here actually.

kurtrussellsbeard · 05/02/2021 21:10

Only on Scotsnet could an economics degree be a reason for scorn. Tedious.

Graffitiqueen · 05/02/2021 21:17

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Graffitiqueen · 05/02/2021 21:27

Well funnily enough saying you know better than the experts because of your undergraduate degree attracts some scorn.

Graffitiqueen · 05/02/2021 21:28

But feel free to attack that rather than my point because you can't.

kurtrussellsbeard · 05/02/2021 21:34

She didn't say that at any point. She offered the information about her degree to try and politely deflect from the fact she's been treated consistently on this thread as if she's clueless.

You say undergraduate degree as if it's nothing. What a horribly patronising comment.

kurtrussellsbeard · 05/02/2021 21:37

Why on earth have those comments been deleted?

Graffitiqueen · 05/02/2021 21:39

Oooh what did you say that got deleted kurt?!?!

Graffitiqueen · 05/02/2021 21:39

And you think I'm the nasty one?!

kurtrussellsbeard · 05/02/2021 21:41

Yours is deleted too!

You said something like do the experts not have economics degrees and have you had enough of experts

I replied something like

You'd need to be more specific about what experts you mean and I didn't know what you meant about me having had enough of experts

Hmm

Neither was delete worthy surely?! Don't even know how to tag MNHQ although I have see. It done!

Graffitiqueen · 05/02/2021 21:41

Ha ha so it is!! Bizarre.

kurtrussellsbeard · 05/02/2021 21:43

Bizarre is right! 🤷🏻‍♀️

Graffitiqueen · 05/02/2021 21:46

I don't think I've even been deleted on MN and I've been here since 2006. Achievement unlocked!!

kurtrussellsbeard · 05/02/2021 21:49

🤣 it must be an error.

I've been deleted once, maybe twice but it was the same thread but I completely disagree with it - well it was maybe a bit cheeky.

Never banned. Actually seems to be quite a common thing for many to be banned a day or so here and there.

reprehensibleme · 05/02/2021 22:51

Badge of pride both Grin

kurtrussellsbeard · 06/02/2021 10:23

@reprehensibleme 🤣

annabelindajane · 06/02/2021 13:50

@Graffitiqueen

I think both pro Indy and anti Indy economists are in agreement that the growth commission means austerity for decades. But clearly you with your economics degree (I presume you haven't used it in industry as otherwise you would have said) know better. Oooookaaaay.
Thank you for summarising all of the above.

No one has descended into abuse so let’s hope more folk feel able to put down their worries / thoughts on independence debate.

I’m certainly not an economist ( but learning a lot on here) and before 2014 was barely political but now fear what Austerity will do for us , our children and grandchildren.

London btw as a financial centre is the envy of the world and we should be justly proud of that.

Alex Salmond said that Scotland had better win independence before benefits were devolved to Scotland .
Thought that was an interesting comment .

StarryEyeSurprise · 06/02/2021 14:34

Thanks Kurt

Weird the comments were deleted- wasn't moi, I promise! Decided I'd rather stick knitting needles in my eyes than continue with the convo after the 'ookaaay' comment.

Happy half term! Hope you get some time to relax Wine

Grafitti- Kurt said exactly what I was meaning- the rhetoric on here is an indy supporters are complete thickos who are unable to research, analyse and come to our own conclusions.

FWIW , I have had time in 'industry' as you call it. We'll need to agree to disagree re the report as it doesn't say it will take 25 years 'to get to where we are now.' We are currently under austerity, have been since Osborne ( although debt has increased hugely and much more than it did under previous governments so all the pain with no gain). The report says it'll take 25 years to get to the same economic situation as our 'peers'.

What's the other option? Stay with WM, keep the status quo, our children/ grand children live in a country where the voting of that country doesn't have an impact on the outcome? They live in a country with no control of borrowing or spending?

Remember that Scotland was told it would 'return to the dark ages' if devolution happened.

I'm very happy that we have a devolved NHS, education etc. If we don't gain independence, UK Ministers will be in charge. That's fine if you're ok with that, and I suspect you are but personally I'm not.

FWIW, I don't actually agree with everything that's in the growth report anyway.. shock, horror I know! Wink

annabelindajane · 06/02/2021 15:02

However the present scotgov hasn’t actually achieved much in last 6 years which I don’t need to list here as we all know what they are .
How can we trust the SNP with our future - we can’t . I don’t think Indy supporters are “ thick” that’s all part of the chippy Scot thing my neighbour talks about . However if they are going to be responsible for deciding our futures I want to know how they are going to finance it and we are thin on answers .

annabelindajane · 06/02/2021 16:02

Financing Scotland in last ref was based on 100 dollar barrel oil and clearly a lot of people bought into that - that’s the big worry.

And who were the economists who came up with that idea.? 😂

StarryEyeSurprise · 06/02/2021 16:52

@annabelindajane

Financing Scotland in last ref was based on 100 dollar barrel oil and clearly a lot of people bought into that - that’s the big worry.

And who were the economists who came up with that idea.? 😂

No one, it wasn't based on oil- oil's a bonus but actually not a big part of our economy (see S and P's analysis from '14 - when prices were high).

Also, there will be up to date analysis released before the referendum. It's a while away yet.

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