Scotsnet does not represent Scotland

[kamalasshaman]

At a time when polls are showing unprecedented support for independence and even John Curtice agrees the polls are clear, why is Scotsnet such a bastion of unionist opinions? Is it just due to the demographic of Mumsnet? Why has this site become such a right wing enclave?

@Graffitiqueen you'll be laughing on the other side of your face in May then I hope.

Given the polls I'm sure you're right. For a change.

I keep coming back to this thread to see what the op will post next, increasingly bizarre but rather funny

I think we know what AstroTurfing is we're just not convinced it's happened on here or would influence posters on here who are generally grown women who know their own minds.
Ironically I'm much closer to voting Yes than I was last time (and I came close at one point) even though what i really want is Devo Max but the paranoid conspiracy hunting and you're with us or against us thinking really makes me hesitate.

@kamalasshaman why should we believe you when you don't believe us?

Yup, but we don't know that .

TBH your posts seem to be implying that anyone questioning the views you are posting is just wrong. This attitude annoyed me and many No voters during the campaign. The SNP have (in my opinion - I do recognise that others disagree) have not done anything outstanding during their tenure which would convince me their arguments for independence are strong enough for me to vote for it. They have powers they haven't used, have tinkered round the edges of policy, have enacted policy which appears ill thought out (in fact they have been actively warned against some - see gender reform legislation). So, all in all, I don't have enough faith in their all consuming belief that Scotland should be independent. I know the White paper was a comprehensive document (as opposed to Johnson's Brexit proposal which appears to have been written on the back of a fag packet) but there are still far too many unknowns.

@kamalasshaman lol they really don't

Please feel free to leave Mumsnet if you hate it here

Yes indeed. That particular post of kamala's was pithy and unforgettable.

I actually have no interest in persuading anyone who posts on here to change their political views. It would be good if people who don't wish to be part of a UK could express their views without fear of causing people to roar and laugh at them.
If anyone feels they are completely immune to groupthink, suggestion or influence I feel really sorry for them. And before anyone starts, no, don't bother to pounce on this as an opportunity to bash Nicola Sturgeon.
This is at least the second time I have been asked to leave this thread which I started. The thread is about people who feel excluded from Scotsnet because they are not made welcome.

@GintyMcGinty they do bylinetimes.com/2021/01/21/parents-campaign-against-school-closures-receives-pr-support-from-boris-johnson-advisor/

Do you not recall using those words yourself Kamala?

@LetItGoGo Some of the posters on this thread have said the most obnoxious things to me so I'm wondering if you could quote that along with the post it was responding to.

Never mind. I wondered if you remembered. You don't.

Oh no @LetItGoGo please do post the quote and the response!!! Help me out here

Just chill op.
Everyone is a bit fed up with life right now.

I'm sure Mumsnet is not as horrible as you think it is. There have been plenty sharing your views here. You just don't need to fight / argue with everyone who doesn't. X

@LetItGoGo yes but you haven't posted the quote...

@kamalasshaman its the overblown conspiracy that people are objecting to not the fact that that you're pro independence and @LetitGoGo is right, people are getting a bit more heated than usual, I got told I was talking rubbish by someone on the Tiers thread but I didn't make a big thing out of it because I don't expect everyone to stay cool calm and collected discussing a horrible pandemic!

See, one reason I can't be following the SNP with regard to independence is their short termism - do any supporters have a comment on NS' speech on 'transphobia' which appears to be throwing her main rival for the leadership, Joanna Cherry, under a bus (along with Johann Lamont). Neither Joanne Cherr or Johann Lamont are transphobia, but both support women's rights. To me, Nicola Sturgeon's tweet is very much playing to the gallery, and is one reason why I can't take them seriously.

There is something extremely weird going on in the SNP where the senior leadership is bowing and scraping to pander to the demands of a small faction which is more loyal to its religion than to the party.

It is very hard to square the current image of the SNP with the young and my memories of ye olde SNP and what their supporters were like (DH's uncle springs to mind)

It is very hard to square the current image of the SNP with the young and my memories of ye olde SNP and what their supporters were like (DH's uncle springs to mind)

Fil's very posh parents supported them in the 70s apparently. Fil is not a fan.

My Dad voted SNP way back then too, he doesnt now.

@Wbeezer

It is very hard to square the current image of the SNP with the young and my memories of ye olde SNP and what their supporters were like (DH's uncle springs to mind)

Ah, that’s a different subject, from two generations ago. In those days the SNP was indeed a rural-based party that found it difficult to make any headway in the industrial Labour heartlands. This is where the Tartan Tory quip comes from. Alex Salmond was actually expelled in those days for being too left-wing.

This changed dramatically starting in the 80s and 90s and continuing until now, when Labour moved substantially to the right, and the SNP filled the gap and started hoovering up Labour’s former voters. That's how it became the dominant party.

@LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett yes it is funny isn't it? And around the same time the Tories were taking us into Europe! Now look at them...