Drowning in a sea full of tiers

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Next thread. DD's birthday so can someone link.

You can guarantee SG are going to mess this up.

I have more confidence in Boris's well make it happen attitude than Nic's more cautious approach!

Maybe it's he focused on the Economy and economic success. Shes focused on independence and what she can blame him for.

Our company has communicated that anyone with issues caused by childcare/homeschooling should either take annual leave or attempt to work flexibly if their manager agrees/business allows and to make sure that any burden is shared properly with partners/the other parent.

The issue with annual leave is even both parents taking it, it probably only covers 8 weeks, no guarantee school will be back in that time and you still need to cover summer holidays.

I'm flexing my days and glad I only work 3 days

DM annoying me as she thinks everything will be fine come March cause of the vaccine. She forgets that the rest of us may have to wait til next year.

www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-school-re-opening-arrangements-for-january-2021/pages/children-of-keyworkers/

This was shared by someone on Twitter defining the sort of categories for keyworkers.

Nursery ratio in our school is 1:8 as we are full time.

This narrative of “take annual leave”.

I get 28 days per year of annual leave and our holiday year runs July-June.

It’s not enough.

@Groovee

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-school-re-opening-arrangements-for-january-2021/pages/children-of-keyworkers/

This was shared by someone on Twitter defining the sort of categories for keyworkers.

Nursery ratio in our school is 1:8 as we are full time.

That's the high level definitions I was mentioning @Groovee. They're pretty useless, especially category 3. They're the same as they were earlier in the year - they obviously know they're not clear enough as they produced a more detailed breakdown to decide who could get tests.

The ambiguity suits them though.

here is the .gov.uk list. Broadly similar to the testing version I found for Scotland.

Nursery ratio in our school is 1:8 as we are full time.

Yeah it's 1:8 over 4 hours IIRC. And the think is being 1:8, or 1:10, doesn't mean the kid is being ignored 90% of the time. They're constantly supervised in a child safe space, and a lot of the time they are doing activities in groups whether that's playing outside, doing craft stuff, playing games...

Devastated to note the return of the Thursday night clap.

Well maybe devastated is a little strong. Irked, maybe.

Patronising nonsense.

Joining in as I’m so confused! I work in financial services and don’t think I am a key worker - nursery agree with this based on the government levels provided as the country can run without me doing my work. I just can’t do the juggle this time with a toddler and two demanding jobs (we nearly broke up from the stress of the juggle last year!) so have asked for leave/other options but my work have said they will give me a letter for nursery saying i’m a key worker in their business so i should get a place.

Waiting for nursery to ring me so i can see if they’d accept that but i feel like my employer is taking the p*ss!?! isn’t the point that we have as few people as possible going out of the home... Now feel stuck between work and nursery and no idea whether I actually want to send him or not!

@MamaTookMyEyebrows no one will clap

The mood is not for clapping

I just found something (on my phone, will see if I can find on here) where the FCA had issued guidance on what FS roles might count as keyworkers. There was quite a long list - it includes things like risk management, compliance and audit. It's from March but don't imagine it's changed.

Depends what role you do essentially

And @newatbabystuff I’d definitely send him if you can. This is going to be for a long time and it will be much better for him as well as you

Devastated to note the return of the Thursday night clap.

God, seriously? The bloody fireworks woke ds up half the time.

@MamaTookMyEyebrows

Devastated to note the return of the Thursday night clap.

Well maybe devastated is a little strong. Irked, maybe.

Patronising nonsense.

Fuck that noise - we've moved since the last "clap" and nobody near us did it last time. I really hope this is not a clapping street or I shall have to move again!

I feel like that too new

I don’t want to send my three year old to nursery. There is no way DD6 will get a school place and they are good company for each other. Last time round six was lost when three went back to nursery.

Also, what’s the point in shutting the schools if everyone is going to send them in anyway?!

I wouldn’t want DD6 in school. I hear the hubs are alright but that it’s a really long day for wee ones. It’s harder for me to have them here but I’d rather they were happy and warm

Financial Services, is classed as essential, business and individuals needs banks, people need financial support etc.

If you make mistakes while being distracted by a kid what's the ultimate effect, (other than you getting the sack)?

That’s not to put down anyone who is sending them in by the way. I just know my daughter (6) and she would hate that sort of set up with none of her pals etc.

Does anybody know why companies are so reluctant to use the furlough scheme this time round? I started a separate thread and the consensus seems to be use annual leave or unpaid leave

I wasn't suggesting for a moment I thought the annual leave dictat was acceptable, just relaying what the mindset is. In my team we only have two team members with school age DC and those are both High school early years (one is in england so not sure if year 7 or 8).

We have had up to now very understanding managers in our own team who are all professionals and expected to be trusted etc. However, I'm sure staff in the contact centres or back office areas are maybe a bit more hampered in just deciding to work evenings or early mornings as the contact centre wont be open or the people they need to engage with won't be available/things need to catch the mail to meet SLAs etc.

I understand them saying take annual leave as no cost to them but not everyone can be off and surely someone managing to work say 4 or 5 hours and helping towards targets, keeping down abandoned calls etc is better than multiple staff completely unavailable.

Our company hasn't furloughed anyone at any point so no change here.

I think there's a big difference between wfh with preschool kids and school kids.

So yes if I could get my LO into nursery a small group 8 kids, I'd do it.

My company had furloughed almost everyone this time round. I'm not out of my probation period yet so I assume they won't keep me on as I'm just a cost to them right now.

@newnameswhothis

Does anybody know why companies are so reluctant to use the furlough scheme this time round? I started a separate thread and the consensus seems to be use annual leave or unpaid leave

Cost it still has a cost to the business, NI etc. Businesses are on their knees they can't afford it.