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Are any of you angry with N.S.

118 replies

Torvean32 · 17/11/2020 17:00

In Aberdeen she locked us down at 77 cases. We were fully locked down. 5 mile travel ban. Nobody in or out if the city unless for work/care. The lockdown lasted 3 weeks with no spread.

The cases in Glasgow were extremely high before NS took action.

So I'm asking , if you dont live in Glasgow are you annoyed that the central belt ( and related areas) spread could have been avoided?

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nibdedibble · 18/11/2020 15:38

Ditto letting the universities back - poor leadership, not taking control of the situation properly, letting the business side of universities decide. Not enough votes for the SNP in that sector. Clusterfuck.

MadameBlobby · 18/11/2020 15:45

@nibdedibble

I’m on the fence in general about NS, but not taking measures early on in Glasgow looks like it was politics over public health and that is very poor leadership.
Agreed
Bikingbear · 18/11/2020 15:52

@MadameBlobby

Thing is all her farting around and dithering around will only make it worse for Glasgow. I just hope Glasgow remember this at the election. Sadly I fear they won’t. They’d vote for a dogshit if it had a black and yellow rosette on. Some kind of weird Stockholm Syndrome thing, I dunno.
That's my biggest fear.

Scotland has become a one party state, no effective opposition, labour are useless and too many won't vote Tory.

I'm fucking angry, surely the travel restrictions are against human rights?
Who's fighting this??

Arkadia · 18/11/2020 16:00

@Bikingbear, that has already happened at the last 2 general elections. Probably it is even more true for Holyrood as the general quality of the candidates appears poor throughout.

Bikingbear · 18/11/2020 16:17

[quote Arkadia]@Bikingbear, that has already happened at the last 2 general elections. Probably it is even more true for Holyrood as the general quality of the candidates appears poor throughout.[/quote]
Westminster doesn't have a great balance either, blame Jeremy Corbyn for that but Holyrood is far too one sided.

I don't even know who the head of the opposition actually is!

Srictlybakeoff · 18/11/2020 16:51

@MadameBlobby
Not a single thoughtful , intelligent, informed voter in Glasgow then . What an incredibly insulting comment to make. That’s what I mean about these threads. . If you don’t agree with the anti SNP sentiment you are labelled as stupid

Svelteinmydreams · 18/11/2020 16:56

@Arkadia oh, I totally agree with you, I just find it ridiculous that they ( in Aberdeen) continue to have their ‘temporary’ licences renewed and that objections are ignored 🤷🏻‍♀️

Scotslassie1 · 18/11/2020 17:05

It's because the pubs which caused the first outbreak and were lambasted by the Scottish Hospitality Grop last week again are owned by a donor for the Tories and the Tory council is working for them ( e.g. fast tracking the licence to open outside to 300 people). But it will be the SG's fault (again) if they cause another outbreak.

MadameBlobby · 18/11/2020 17:24

[quote Srictlybakeoff]@MadameBlobby
Not a single thoughtful , intelligent, informed voter in Glasgow then . What an incredibly insulting comment to make. That’s what I mean about these threads. . If you don’t agree with the anti SNP sentiment you are labelled as stupid[/quote]
I had assumed it was clear I meant collectively, given that’s how elections are conducted. Not that there is not a single intelligent voter in Glasgow. It was a red rosette and Labour for years in many swathes of the country.

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 18/11/2020 17:26

I am angry about the care homes.

Arkadia · 18/11/2020 17:59

@Srictlybakeoff, well, Glasgow, apart our glorious leader, has the likes of Mhairi Black, a little more than a teenager when first elected and Margaret Ferrier. I am quite sure the others are no better.
People vote SNP to further the independence agenda, just like you vote UKIP or Brexit party to leave the EU. Who the candidates are or what they stand for on other issues, nobody really cares. The proof is that here the SNP keeps winning despite doing sod all in Government (and that is a fact) except whining and whinging. But, hey, that wins votes, so we carry on doing it.

MumofHunter · 18/11/2020 18:24

Another ignorant comment. I had a chuckle at the outspoken critic of the FM who doesn't even know the name of the leader of the opposition. Similarly another was arguing for the Internal Market Bill against another poster yet they hadn't even read it. Thank goodness most voters in Scotland are more informed.

MumofHunter · 18/11/2020 18:25

And the constant 'our glorious leader ' is just another level.

Christmasbiscuit · 18/11/2020 18:31

Not angry with NS. Just angry at the situation in general 😂

MadameBlobby · 18/11/2020 18:43

[quote Arkadia]@Srictlybakeoff, well, Glasgow, apart our glorious leader, has the likes of Mhairi Black, a little more than a teenager when first elected and Margaret Ferrier. I am quite sure the others are no better.
People vote SNP to further the independence agenda, just like you vote UKIP or Brexit party to leave the EU. Who the candidates are or what they stand for on other issues, nobody really cares. The proof is that here the SNP keeps winning despite doing sod all in Government (and that is a fact) except whining and whinging. But, hey, that wins votes, so we carry on doing it.[/quote]
I agree and the due diligence done on many of the candidates has been pretty appalling. Natalie McGarry anyone?

I do actually quite like our SNP MP and he does a decent job. I’ve had some good help off our SNP councillors. There are many SNP politicians I do think are intelligent and knowledgeable people. I am not slating people just for being SNP but I do not support the party. I don’t have any loyalty to any party and I do find it strange how some SNP fans can’t take any criticism of the party or take it personally.

MumofHunter · 18/11/2020 18:50

You literally said that those living in our biggest city would vote for a turd if it had an SNP ribbon on it.

GreyishDays · 18/11/2020 18:56

I don’t really get the logic behind saying she doesn’t lock down those areas that are SNP supported. I’ve not been in Scotland for all that long so might have missed a subtlety.
Why would she want lots of cases/hospitalisations/deaths in those areas?

I think overall she’s done a reasonable job. Slightly better than Boris.

I don’t understand why she didn’t shut Glasgow down sooner, but I’m guessing there is a reason.

Arkadia · 18/11/2020 19:09

@MumofHunter, they have already.

(This is what often happens with safe seats.)

dementedma · 18/11/2020 19:18

She has done a very poor job on so many levels but fools many people by people by being able to string a coherent sentence together and presenting well. The daily SNP party political broadcasts are ridiculous and the cover up over the Alex Salmond case stinks to high heaven. Care home deaths, poor results of track and trace, constant bitching about Uk Gov while holding out the begging bowl for furlough money...
Scotland is a one party dictatorship and it’s quite frightening

MadameBlobby · 18/11/2020 19:23

@GreyishDays

I don’t really get the logic behind saying she doesn’t lock down those areas that are SNP supported. I’ve not been in Scotland for all that long so might have missed a subtlety. Why would she want lots of cases/hospitalisations/deaths in those areas?

I think overall she’s done a reasonable job. Slightly better than Boris.

I don’t understand why she didn’t shut Glasgow down sooner, but I’m guessing there is a reason.

What sensible reason could that be though?

I agree she doesn’t want infections/hospitalisations/deaths. She’s not a psychopath. But ultimately this is what is happening and also a trashing of businesses due to her decision

GreyishDays · 18/11/2020 19:25

It feels like people do have a reason in mind though?

Srictlybakeoff · 18/11/2020 19:57

[quote Arkadia]@Srictlybakeoff, well, Glasgow, apart our glorious leader, has the likes of Mhairi Black, a little more than a teenager when first elected and Margaret Ferrier. I am quite sure the others are no better.
People vote SNP to further the independence agenda, just like you vote UKIP or Brexit party to leave the EU. Who the candidates are or what they stand for on other issues, nobody really cares. The proof is that here the SNP keeps winning despite doing sod all in Government (and that is a fact) except whining and whinging. But, hey, that wins votes, so we carry on doing it.[/quote]
So you know that for every single voter in Glasgow that the only reason they vote SNP is because they support independence. Some people do care about other issues. And you are sure others are no better - do you know who the others are .
. And saying it’s a “ fact” that the SNP does nothing in Government. No - it’s your opinion. So there’s been no legislation or changes to the NHS or education since they took charge . There are no differences between services here and in England ?
I don’t agree with everything the SNP does but the complete over generalisations on here - and insults directed towards people not in the “ in- group” of Nicola haters is like something from the playground

Arkadia · 18/11/2020 20:18

@Srictlybakeoff,
On education all they have done is... Oh gosh. What have they done? Whatever they have done given the results they could have employed their time better. On the plus side on education they cannot blame the evil English. The problem is that nobody cares about education, neither the parties nor the voters (not significantly, at least), so they get YET another free ride. I know, the "opposition" exists only on paper, but still...

They (the SNP) seem to wrapped up in constitutional issues, gender recognition matters and policing thought (and your allegiance to Scotland) that there is no time for anything else, like how to improve our lives. What has the SNP done for ME? Nothing at all, except free toll bridges, free hospital parking and free prescriptions. But that was stuff from over a decade ago. Now what do they do, they sow division and distrust, hate and acrimony, lies and deceit.

So, yes, those who vote SNP want independence (fair enough), plus in Glasgow they probably want easier access to dole money. For what other reason would you vote for Black or Ferrier? (I hasten to add that the Covid incident is neither here nor there, but it gave me the chance to read Margaret's illustrious CV).

MumofHunter · 18/11/2020 20:30

Yet again you've demonstrated how bigoted and ignorant you are. Mhairi Black doesn't even represent a Glasgow constituency. Please educate yourself.

Arkadia · 18/11/2020 20:32

I stand corrected. She represents Paisley. That makes alright, then.