Christmas restrictions

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What's your predictions on what NS will allow for Christmas? Still no mixing households? Cap on number of people? Just interested in seeing what other people think the rules will be by then.

I reckon we organise a coup now and release those that want out. We'll reserve an amount of ICU/Hospital beds for non covid and when the covid stuff is full it's full so decide and sort yourselves out. Those that want to shield and those vulnerable will be supported and the only testing taking place will be care home staff and those admitted to hospital.

Keep washing your hands though - happy to keep that going.

The rest can be sorted out when we work out which poster is best for which job. Lidl is head of education, Statisically challenged is in charge of information services and hands up who wants the rest :o :o

In reality I'd be shite.

Another vote for @WaxOnFeckOff

But the most important thing - have you got a clicky pen?

Nah, I can't be trusted with a clicky pen. I have Papermate inkjoy 100. I like the triangular shape...

*Waxonfeckoff you have said exactly as I feel but better than I could word it!!

No clicky pens here, I'll need a spreadsheet...

(except mine will work...)

I'd fill the post of crabbit sod if that's vacant?!?
Have had years of practice

Well I was going to be crabbit myself but I'll stick with thrawn and you can have crabbit.

Excellent news on the working spreadsheet - see were are doing better already :)

Now we can't have you two arguing about who gets to be the crabbit one. Give me a few minutes and I'll come up with an assessment matrix and a weighting algorithm so we can assess who would be the best crabbit person.

ha ha, you could also work out who has the most enemies on Scotsnet as I think that might be me but I'm trying to be good and ignoring them. I'm also very pleased that someone thought to corral them together in one thread.

Oh I've definitely got some enemies on mn, there's a thread just now where I'm getting absolute pelters, but I don't care.
Maybe I should be the thrawn one

you needing haun'ers ssd? Did you post on the thread that you weren't allowed to post on? I've popped on occasionally but didn't post 'cos I'm a good girl...last I saw one of my usual foes was getting her arse handed to her

I was pretty vocal in the run up to indyref, I don't think I'm forgiven either. ALthough I may have bored everyone to death with stats by the end...

You do talk a lot of sense though wax. I'm wavering in my loyalty to the snp, recent events have made me go . I just wish there was a strong socialist Labour Party in Scotland, they'd get my vote all day long. And I want independence, just to get away from the right wing tories. Again, if there was a strong Labour party in Westminster they'd have my vote.

ANYHOO, apologies everyone, this isn't meant to be a political thread. I won't mention it again.
Just wanted to say wax is opening my eyes a bit..

No wax, I started a thread slating red wall voters who voted tory and they're ripping into me, but I honestly don't care. It's really riled some of them, but I just think they've got a guilty conscience.

You can be political on here if you want ssd, it's the "Bringing in some light" thread that we are trying to keep politics out of.

I could honestly post stuff about SNP all day long but that's not hard :)

I have no issue with folk voting for who and what they believe in, but do it with eyes wide open. The poster I have most issue with just drops in soundbites with absolutely nothing to back them up. I really don't know everything but I'm happy to comment about what I do see.

I'm a lifelong labour voter but my views are probably more centrist at this point in my life - I think Starmer gives us hope but he needs to get the party in the right shape. I'd vote for anyone who had the best chance of beating SNP now (except the greens obviously). I find the party sinister and think that they would chuck the population under the bus in their blinkered pursuit of independence at this time.

Anyway getting too late in the evening to get too serious :o

I'm very much politically homeless tbh. Starmer is certainly a marked improvement but Labour still has so far to go IMO. They've become so absorbed with lefty nonsense and identity politicking at the cost of focusing on issues which would improve the lives of millions. Libdems have jumped all of the sharks. Tories are obsessed with nationalistic nonsense. And the snp seem to somehow combine the worst of them all.

It is. I'm knackered and can't take any more fighting. My other thread will probably get deleted they usually do. I'll wake up and it'll have gone pouf..

Couldn't agree more ladies (or whatever you are or identify as...) I've gone from voting for stuff to voting against stuff and it just doesn't feel nice. I'd like to be leaving something better for my children as let's be honest, most folk aren't voting for what is necessarily best for themselves, they are voting for a better world for their children/grandchildren/nephews and nieces etc. I really just don't like the ways things are going in general, but maybe that's just me being a fuddy duddy. I think we are giving our DC a world and a life that is lesser than the one we've had and that feels shite.

Anyway, too deep for this time of night so heading off to bed. Hope your thread survives ssd. No idea where it is or whether I agree with you but no matter we need to take the chance to express our views whilst we still can...

I'll leave this for a look:

summit.news/2020/10/28/scottish-hate-crime-bill-would-criminalize-offensive-dinner-table-conversations/

Another politically homeless one here.

There must be a real opportunity for a party with centrist views out there. Straightforward, no backhanders to buddies, no wokeness, room for a range of opinions. I want them to look after the vulnerable and leave everyone else alone. (Not Covid stuff) And prioritise education, and think how to manage healthcare effectively. This has all demonstrated how woefully these things have been done.

Oh, and to understand and be honest with statistics. 😃

Totally agree wood

It does seem like we are missing a party - lib dems never really got off the ground properly anyway, they had a brief go under Clegg but unless something dramatic changes they're not getting anywhere in a hurry.

Randomly my Alexa was playing 90s music the other day and starting playing "Things Can Only Get Better" and I have to admit it made me really quite nostalgic for the run up to the sort of run up to the 97 election. I was still a kid so too young to vote, but I just remember there being so much optimism around our area (Edinburgh council estate). The last election it was more a case of choose your poison for many rather than people being hopeful and optimistic

And whilst people were very much ready for a change I also don't recall their being such utter contempt, distrust and almost mockery of John Major compared to what we see now for Boris. I guess what I mean is that he wasn't a joke figure the way BoJo is.

John Major was mocked a lot at the time and there were quite a few Tory sleaze episodes - but it was a different era when politicians resigned a bit more. The news cycle felt slower (this may have been because we didn't have 24 hour news and social media).

My thoughts on the Tories in 1997 and Labour in 2010 was that they'd been in power too long. My personal theory is that parties need to be regularly out of power to go and refresh themselves. You can see it here with the SNP, I don't know enough about Wales and NI to say.

This is pretty much top of my Things I’m Fretting About list.

Usually all three of my adult sons come to us for Christmas. The plan was the same this year, with ds1 bringing his fiancée - but under the current rules, none of them can come.

Ds1 and his fiancée live together, but can’t go to her parents this Christmas, because her brother and family will be there. Ds2 lives alone, but has a girlfriend, and ds3 is a student who lives with his girlfriend in a privately rented flat, not Halls of Residence.

If Nicola changes the rules to allow students to come home, that will apply to ds3 - but if students aren’t allowed home, will that be just students in Halls of Residence, or all students?

Ds2 is a teacher, so is probably the highest risk of all three of them for being in touch with someone Covid positive - so what does he do at Christmas? He has a standing invitation to go to his girlfriend’s family, and ewe would love to have him here - but in either case, he’d be breaking the rules as they stand at the moment (though maybe not at Christmas, if the rules change).

And I don’t know what would feel worst - having just one of the three of them at home for Christmas, and knowing that one is with someone else’s family, and the other is having Christmas with just his fiancée and their puppy, or having two of them here, and worrying that ds1 will feel left out (because it seems pretty clear already that it isn’t going to be possible for them to come - I don’t see the rules changing that much).

The whole thing is frying my brain.