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Moving to Fife - anti English?

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strahan · 15/09/2020 14:06

I am thinking of moving to Fife, somewhere near the coast if possible. My family is from there. The trouble is, I sound English! we moved from Scotland when I was very young and I lost my Scottish accent. I have read about hostility to the English in Scotland. Should I be worried?
I have to say, I've only ever experienced friendliness when on holiday in Scotland. But I don't want to move somewhere where I'm not welcome.
Honest answers appreciated!

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DontBelongHere · 18/09/2020 18:48

My absolute favourite Fife-ism is that 'do' and 'don't' can both be pronounced as 'dae/day'.

So if someone annoys you, and you want them to stop, you can declare in a harassed tone:

'dae dae tha!'

It's actual poetry Grin

danidella · 18/09/2020 18:52

Im from Kirkcaldy but now live in England. My hubby is english and sometimes struggles to understand the 'english sounding' accent 🤣. We are a friendly bunch as my DH has never had any anti-english remarks.

PurpleFrog · 18/09/2020 18:53

It’s just as well you probably don’t want to live in a city, as Fife doesn’t actually have any! St Andrews may have a cathedral, but it is not officially a city.

Kinglassielassie · 18/09/2020 18:58

Markinch? Can't speak to anti-social behaviour, but it has a choir, is on the main line, and has rather wonderful station waiting room...

Sexnotgender · 18/09/2020 19:01

Can I recommend Kirkcaldy, there’s a fantastic musical theatre scene. If you’ve got kids there’s KYMT and an amazing jazz group FYJO.

GunsAndShips · 18/09/2020 19:03

My godfather was from Kirkcaldy but moved to Musselburgh in later years. I adored his accent.

I plan to move to Scotland (West Coast or Highlands though) in the next couple of years and have been visiting regularly to scratch the itch before we relocate permanently. Only ever had tongue in cheek comments about being English apart from a very drunk Irish man in Oban who told me to f off home. Later on, I saw him talking to his shoe, so I assume his problems went beyond my nationality.

jerometheturnipking · 18/09/2020 19:53

Lotch-jelly Grin. He surely meant Lo'gelly.

I've been told I sound "posh", as has DH. There's a world of difference between speaking in English with a Fife accent, and speaking Fife Scots, or any of the local variations.

"Oan the bunker ben the scullery" - one of my gran's favourite directions.

Back to the OP - absence of flight path somewhat rules out the East of Dunfermline, Dalgety Bay. Although it's not too bad at the moment with the airport getting fewer flights.

IncludeWomenInTheSequel · 18/09/2020 20:24

I'd look at Broughty Ferry, Newport on Tay, Wormit, maybe Inchture/Longforgan way. St Andrews too.

midnightstar66 · 18/09/2020 20:30

Whilst people might be anti Tory and Westminster rule, no one is any English. That's a myth. You'd be very welcome, most areas of Scotland are very diverse these days and it's a welcome thing.

stoppingstones · 18/09/2020 20:32

Scotland people are lovely. No one will judge you for an accent. As long as you are a nice person you will fit in fine

womanaf · 18/09/2020 21:53

'dae dae tha!'

But the first dae is marginally longer than the second. Perfectly clear. 😀

midnightstar66 · 19/09/2020 08:37

Ah see, in the Borders it wound be Deh dae tha. Far more sensible!

ALLIS0N · 19/09/2020 08:45

Is the first dae a two syllable word and the second dae one syllable ?

womanaf · 19/09/2020 10:08

Is the first dae a two syllable word and the second dae one syllable ?

Can be. Dae-ae almost. Short for ‘dinnae’.

ALLIS0N · 19/09/2020 10:13

Thanks, that’s how I hear it in my head 😁

PurpleFrog · 19/09/2020 10:24

@ALLIS0N

Thanks, that’s how I hear it in my head 😁
Me too! I’m saying these out loud trying to work out the exact pronunciation - a tactic I often have to use with local Facebook sites to work out what posters are actually trying to say. Grin. I guess a lot of Scottish dialects are mainly spoken, without standardised spellings.
chrislilleyswig · 19/09/2020 13:30

Dae hink so

Common in Perthshire for " I don't think so"

Gingerkittykat · 19/09/2020 21:31

@Sexnotgender

Can I recommend Kirkcaldy, there’s a fantastic musical theatre scene. If you’ve got kids there’s KYMT and an amazing jazz group FYJO.
Kirkcaldy seems really run down to me and not somewhere I would live. I was shocked at how bad the shopping centre and high street was when I visited recently.

I think Dunfermline is far better and also has the benefits of closer transport links to Edinburgh. Good luck trying to pronounce Touch and Duloch though!

Sexnotgender · 19/09/2020 22:01

Bits of Kirkcaldy are run down certainly, I happen to live in a nice bit.

The high street is undergoing a regeneration but it’s taking ages unfortunately.

NatashaAlianovaRomanova · 20/09/2020 23:38

@dementedma

Blimey, someone just mentioned Kelty and Cowdenbeath on Mumsnet! My life is complete. It'll be Cardenden and Lochore next. Fife accent is very strong and nothing like English!
I'm originally from Lochore & definitely do not sound English not even when I'm using my posh telephone voice at work Grin
CautiousVisitor · 22/09/2020 23:42

Never encountered anti-Englishness. I don't know if it's Fife (or Scotland?!) wide but don't be offended if someone asks "where d'you stay?" The first time I was asked that I felt very ruffled as to me it sounded like it was implying I was just visiting, but actually it just means "where you do live"...

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