Scottish schools opening

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I was ready for schools opening, but this new research has given me pause for thought. I think this came out after Sturgeon's decision. What do you all think?

www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/31/georgia-children-covid-outbreak/#click=t.co/Y9gSG9zENz

Quote from the article:

"A new report suggests that children of all ages are susceptible to coronavirus infection and may also spread it to others — a finding likely to intensify an already fraught discussion about the risks of sending children back to school this fall.

The analysis, released Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, details an outbreak at a sleep-away camp in Georgia last month in which 260 children and staffers — more than three-quarters of the 344 tested — contracted the virus less than a week after spending time together in close quarters. The children had a median age of 12. The camp had required all 597 campers and staff members to provide documentation that they had tested negative for the virus before coming. Staff were required to wear masks, but children were not."

WORK!

@lookingforamindatwork

My DD had a sore throat this morning but wanted to go to school. We checked her temperature (fine), gave her water to take with her, and gave her some medicine. It might be her tonsils. Who knows. But she's texted me to say some other kids are off with sore throats and her friend had it last week. I'm sure lots of parents at the school will be worried. I'm leaning more towards the tonsilitis although that doesn't explain why everyone at the school seems to have it.

Surely you should have kept her at home...? I'm sorry, but this is what seriously terrifies me.

It is a symptom - not one of the most common ones, but a symptom nevertheless. You can't possibly know if it's COVID or not without a test. The medicine (paracetamol?) might mask a subsequent higher temperature.

But she's at school where - if it is COVID - she could potentially pass it to other students, some who may be vulnerable or have vulnerable family at home.

Surely we should lean towards caution to keep others safe?

@IncludeWomenInTheSequel

I have a question for you guys.

My kids are home today with sore throats, and I've found out that all of my friends in the town also have kids off with the same.

I called the Coronavirus helpline to ask if they can/should be tested but was told no, sore throat isn't a symptom.

So, given that there are at least a dozen kids with sore throats - which is a symptom just not one of the main three, what happens in schools? It can spread through kids but the alarm will only sound once an adult becomes unwell with one of the main symptoms? Given that we know kids are often asymptomatic or have mild symptoms, I would have hoped for more proactivity really.

What do you think? Am I being daft?

No, I don't think you're being daft. Did you call the school to talk this through with them?

No, we just have a text absence system.

It was only after I realised mine were off that I discovered all of my friends have kids off too.

The person on the Coronavirus helpline clearly thought I was being hysterical by even asking if they should get tested.

And that's me waiting for a test kit courtesy of an incident with a pupil. Beyond fucking raging

Lidlfix, don't know what to say, good luck doesn't sound appropriate. Terrible you are in this position.

Thanks Wings. I don't know whether I go to school on Monday pending receiving my test carrying it out and getting my results . And my poor pupils who are just back and my overwhelmed colleagues . One stupid moment which I know had no malice. Now here I am necking gin and seething

@Lidlfix have you been in close contact with a Covid positive pupil?

what happened?

Pretty sure the kid would not be positive but there was potent bodily fluids contact. I can't take that chance.

Goodness @Lidlfix , that's awful. The kids just don't care do they? Ours are far too relaxed about the whole thing. I know the numbers are low (and so do they) but we're aiming to keep them that way. But at the same time I feel like I'm always banging on about covid till I'm boring myself.

Potential not potent. Oops

The test won't tell you much if you test too close to the event @Lidlfix. It takes a while for any potential viral load to build up.

I know hopefully I will be able to have a follow up one at around 8 days . Mr Swinney said we can get reassurance testing. Let's see if that's true.

How are we all going to manage the next (apparently) two years. people too scared to go back to work/school, people jumping to conclusions every time there's a cough or sneeze, people fed up with wearing masks (myself included) and actual genuine cases reported all the time linked to schools and workplaces

Oh Lidl, I 'm sorry to hear this.

Dd gets tested weekly as part of her job and she says they have been later coming through since schools went back last week.

Sorry to hear that Lidl. I haven't been but have decided I'm going to wear a mask going forward.
We have a P3 and a P5 who has been wearing a mask no bother all day. I'll just go for a paper/ disposable so not too hot.

That's rotten @lidl I hope you get the all clear. That's us done 10 days with all pupils in my very busy primary (no soft start).

Distancing is possible sometimes. The lower down the school I go the less able I am to distance. Parents are also not distancing at all and no matter how many steps back I take they just follow. I'm starting to become that rude person who just walks away.

First aid is a nightmare as I'm trying to do it properly for everyone but there's a ticking clock in my head for mask time. We only got 50 disposable masks and that's also for personal care so i cant be using them for every first aid incident.

We have had a fair amount of absence the past few days and I know of one pupil going for a test last night. I honestly feel id be as well factoring in a trip to a testing centre on my way home every night.

Lidfix it would probably be more helpful if the child involved was tested (I think, not 100% on when tests stop showing positive)

I honestly feel id be as well factoring in a trip to a testing centre on my way home every night.

So do I. We’ve had quite a clutch of pupils tested and it’s like a constant white noise of anxiety in my head.

I don’t know if I can do it for much longer than a few months. I feel like I’m the one likely to infect my friends and family. I’m nearly 30 and single so I want/need to date but that feels off the cards atm too. It’s awful.

Goingdownto it sure would but that involve the pupil admitting what happened, facing the consequences and going for a test.

But your word isn't good enough? Fgs

Two weeks in and DS is already unwell. No coronavirus symptoms, but I'm contacting the head to work out what to do next.

It has however shown me that all the cleaning and hand washing and alcohol sanitiser and class pods etc etc isn't enough to stop bugs spreading.

@lookingforamindatwork

How are we all going to manage the next (apparently) two years. people too scared to go back to work/school, people jumping to conclusions every time there's a cough or sneeze, people fed up with wearing masks (myself included) and actual genuine cases reported all the time linked to schools and workplaces

Do you think that someone with an identified underlying condition should NOT be worried at all? Do you think they should carry on as normal, even if they have been warned that that might mean serious illness or death?

Both mine are OK so far. Waiting for gyms to reopen now