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From the random box of covid restrictions we now get....

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WaxOnFeckOff · 02/07/2020 14:33

Facemasks in shops.

I mean really, what is the point now? If they were useful then the time when they were useful was months ago.

Surely the chance of catching covid in a shop is minute, the chance of then being ill is more minute and the chance of dying is vastly remote.

It just feels like it another thing to say just to keep control? I have no problem doing things that make sense and protect others, but really? Public transport where you may be in the vicinity of someone for longer seems fair enough but shops doesn't make sense.

IME so far, having a mask dangling from your neck without even being worn seems to give people carte blanche to stand less than a foot away from others.

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fivebrokentests · 10/07/2020 15:25

I think that inconsistencies sadly are part and parcel of this. I think, as is made clear by this thread, the masks was a big step and one which wouldn't be popular. I think that a bit of time was required for folk to get their head round it before they were 'forced' to comply.

My blood pressure couldn't take a Boris thread 😀🙈

fivebrokentests · 10/07/2020 15:27

@Dinosauratemydaffodils it's very unlikely / definitely not going to be permanent.

Arkadia · 10/07/2020 15:32

If it was such a big step, why wait till phase THREE to introduce them? People shopped in supermarkets the same as before and, as you said, many countries didn't have any issue in making the compulsory from the word go.
Now they have magically materialised in all the shops. Literally, they appeared yesterday in my supermarket (I went shopping in advance). 5 masks for £6.50. someone is making good money out of them, that's for sure (they cost less at the Indian store. I think it was 10 for £6).
Anyway, now that I have been gifted 2 I am ok for the foreseeable future. Are the people around me any safer?

Defenestratethecat · 10/07/2020 15:32

Do we know where the 18 new cases are? Related to the D&G cases or elsewhere? WaxOnFeckOff, that Travellingtabby site is great, thanks, but regional figures only up to 5th July I think.

fivebrokentests · 10/07/2020 15:36

Anyway, now that I have been gifted 2 I am ok for the foreseeable future. Are the people around me any safer?

Well yes actually. If you happen to catch it they are.

The cynic in me believes that this is partly to do with availability. I also think it's because it's quite clear that lockdown is over and social distancing is a bit of a memory for most so they are trying to include an additional insurance policy of sorts to combat that.

Mascotte · 10/07/2020 15:42

I think it's purely a fig leaf to encourage the terrified populace to go out after all the DEATH hype.

Arkadia · 10/07/2020 15:51

@Defenestratethecat, NS is reported by the BBC to have said that they scattered around.

fivebrokentests · 10/07/2020 15:53

Hmmm I'm not sure it was hype tbh. I think there's still an awful lot we don't know about this and I for one am not keen to catch it!

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WaxOnFeckOff · 10/07/2020 16:11

@Defenestratethecat

Do we know where the 18 new cases are? Related to the D&G cases or elsewhere? WaxOnFeckOff, that Travellingtabby site is great, thanks, but regional figures only up to 5th July I think.
If you scroll down to the first table after the first map, it gives new cases today but the deaths are based on weekly figures to 5th July. Unless I've picked it up wrong - certainly the daily figures seem to add up correctly.
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Arkadia · 10/07/2020 16:11

@fivebrokentests, indeed, but the virus is here so stay (unless it vanishes, which is possible), so we must learn to live with it.
Let's not forget that the seasonal flu's death toll is in the tens of thousands (about 20k if my memory serves me well) every year, in EVERY country, despite the vaccine.

Mascotte · 10/07/2020 16:11

I'd rather risk catching it than live like this.

YonBonnieBanks · 10/07/2020 16:14

@Dinosauratemydaffodils I'm trying to find another job that is more one place or more work from home. My current job involves me visiting lots of clients, including retail clients. I'm stressed out of my Fcking box with this whole face mask scenario. and what @HelenaDove* says about covert filming is just horrifying.

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WaxOnFeckOff · 10/07/2020 16:15

It says:
4 Lothian
2 Lanarkshire
6 Glasgow and Clyde
2 Grampian
1 Fife
2 D&G
1 Ayr and arran

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WaxOnFeckOff · 10/07/2020 16:20

I'm about 95% sure I've had it as has DH and probably DSs though they had no symptoms (DS2 had a terrible random chest infection but it wasn't a dry cough so not using that as evidence). there was no testing available when we had it even though DH is frontline NHS.

However I can't be 100% sure and we were on the milder end so no idea if we have immunity or not. DH having to wear a mask all day obvs and it's making him ill again, he was glad to have the 2 weeks off but hasn't been great since he went back.

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PavlovaTescobar · 10/07/2020 16:22

Just been refused entry to the Edinburgh Craigleith Card Factory for not wearing a mask. When I mentioned that I had some mask wearing issues they said I had to wear one anyway, or not be allowed in. Not keen to discuss my medical history with random strangers who shout at you across the shop floor as you try to enter. No hassle from M and S and Sainsburys. The world has gone mad, am going to give up shopping if at all possible while this mask nonsense is going on in Scotland.

Mascotte · 10/07/2020 16:59

@PavlovaTescobar that's really shite, the world has gone completely mad, that's for sure 💐

Belindabelle · 10/07/2020 17:01

It looks like the ‘mask nonsense’ in shops will be coming to England soon. Apparently Boris has decided mask wearing is desirable.

PavlovaTescobar · 10/07/2020 17:58

Thank you Mascotte, that’s kind of you. I think the retail industry in Scotland is going to be hit by the compulsory face mask wearing as we are going to shop physically as little as possible now apart from buying food and complete essentials. I don’t know many people who are supportive of compulsory mask wearing and they will be decreasing their shop visits too. There are lots of asthmatics who are very worried about abuse for not wearing masks on public transport and shops.

OOAOML · 10/07/2020 18:52

I've just been shopping. Several people not wearing masks and I didn't see anyone giving them grief for it. However, I do wish that those who can't wear masks would be more considerate of others as I had someone stand right behind me and there were several people shouting for their children. It was also a lot busier than a few weeks ago.

Willow2017 · 10/07/2020 19:07

@PavlovaTescobar

Just been refused entry to the Edinburgh Craigleith Card Factory for not wearing a mask. When I mentioned that I had some mask wearing issues they said I had to wear one anyway, or not be allowed in. Not keen to discuss my medical history with random strangers who shout at you across the shop floor as you try to enter. No hassle from M and S and Sainsburys. The world has gone mad, am going to give up shopping if at all possible while this mask nonsense is going on in Scotland.
You should email thier head office or write on thier Fb that there are medical exemptions to wearing masks and they have no right to make you feel singled out in front of others for not wearing one. Suggest thier staff are better trained in this area.
dementedma · 10/07/2020 19:15

Thank you for this thread@waxonfeckoff
I posted similar on my FB about the inconsistencies in the rules and got hammered by SNP voting friends.
If masks work, then it has to be masks for all, everywhere surely?
We can’t have this half arsed some people can wear them and some people can’t and in some places its ok and in some places it isnt

PavlovaTescobar · 10/07/2020 20:08

Willow 2017, I have emailed customer service at the Card Factory. Felt pretty upset afterwards. Like so many other posters I don’t understand why this didn’t happen in late March. Were supermarket staff seen as expendable when they weren’t offered PPE? It’s ludicrous that yesterday few Sainsbury’s workers wore masks and today they are kitted out as if they are cleaning an Ebola infected crime scene.

HeIenaDove · 10/07/2020 20:31

As there are many women who cant wear them due to being suffocated as part of domestic abuse , sexual attacks, rape it might be an idea for Womens Aid and other related agencies to put out a statement of some kind.

Especially as so many members of the public are completely incapable of critical thinking.

HeIenaDove · 10/07/2020 20:33

@Belindabelle i saw that on Channel 4 news.

Willow2017 · 10/07/2020 21:25

@PavlovaTescobar

Willow 2017, I have emailed customer service at the Card Factory. Felt pretty upset afterwards. Like so many other posters I don’t understand why this didn’t happen in late March. Were supermarket staff seen as expendable when they weren’t offered PPE? It’s ludicrous that yesterday few Sainsbury’s workers wore masks and today they are kitted out as if they are cleaning an Ebola infected crime scene.
Exactly it took a month for my supermarket to even provide anti bac! At current one we are now wearing visors to serve behind a perspex wall in cafe! Checkout staff don't need to. Customers cant hear a word we are saying so spend more time at the end of the perspex so they can hear us🤣🤣🤣