First ministers briefing

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Is there one on today? If so what time will it be? Thanks

I have had a quick look back through this, and I can't see where the '5 mile limit' for driving for exercise for Phase 1 was obtained. It is not in the Scottish Government document, which says:

"You will also be permitted to travel short distances for outdoor leisure and exercise but advice to stay within a short distance of your local
community and travel by walk, wheel and cycle where possible."

I was hoping we would be able to take the dogs 10-15 miles away to some of our usual walks, but increasing our range by only 5 miles won't help very much!

@Y0uCann0tBeSer10us

I absolutely agree with you, and let’s face it, in Scotland, the attainment gap is huge.

@Purplefrog it’s in the table of guidance right at the back of the document.

Purple, it's always been a bit ambiguous but I've definitely read 5 miles in the current document somewhere.

I think it's previously been said that it should be in your local area and you should be able to walk or cycle to it.

The aim really is to stop large groups or people travelling long distances. My view is that you could drive a bit further than 5 miles , you might not get parked as a lot of carparks have tape up meaning they are meant to be closed. But if you can and it's really busy, you just choose somewhere else.

For lots of folks, staying local has meant it's harder to social distance. I'm sure something said at one point that your exercise should be in line with your fitness level. So a marathon runner for example shouldn't need to run round in circles round the park but that would be suitable for a casual jogger.

DP is a hillwalker (to a strenuous level) walking round in the flat doesn't really work for that so he has done his standard training quick up and down on our local hill, only a couple of miles away a couple of times but he'd normally do that every weekend if he wasn't going to do a proper hill. Local hill is full of mountain bikers though so it's not pleasant at the moment anyway.

He's been gutted at all this weather and not being able to get up a hill. He's late 50s so he says he only has a few really big ones in him now and they need good weather and an overnight stay. He's been trying to do one particular one for the last 5 years and never made it yet due to weather.

Ah - thanks for that @Arewethereyet21! I must have reached the blank page at "Annexes" and thought I was at the end of the document. I missed all of that section when I looked through it earlier.

It is surely up to individuals to protect their own 'gender equality'
No way would I ever accept my husband's job being more important than mine

@user1487194234

That’s exactly how I feel but this is not representative of society as a whole. It will be women who will be forced into reducing hours etc. A major issue here is that men do not feel they have the support from work to ask for flexible working. A former colleague of mine once said that any man who requested flexible working wasn’t serious about his career. Nice.

I know it's absolutely terrible

I have no intention of sacrificing the career I’ve worked hard for either but it’s not as simple as taking individual responsibility. There is the very real issue mentioned above of the expectations that workplaces have that women will take charge of childcare, but also the practical fact that men tend to earn more than women, so from a family finance point of view it makes sense for women to reduce hours.

I am beyond fucked off today, I read the document this morning. I was hopeful to get a few family walks in, but having seen the 5mile guidance there are few areas we can go to. Perils of the geography we live in I guess. Releasing the lockdown seems from next week to be giving the go ahead for drinking in suburban back gardens, golf, lawn bowls and garden centres. What about our children?? What is there for them?? What is the legacy this is going to leave? They stand to lose so from all of this, however there is limited evidence they can even transmit COVID-19.

@sweetpotatoaddict Me too. I had my head in my hands yesterday about the nurseries and the stay local direction. I don’t live near my parents or my best friend. I am desperate to see them I don’t want to golf or fish.

And as for the nurseries, the lack of a date helps precisely no one. How on earth do people get back to work? I’m lucky in that I can and will WFH for the foreseeable future but my little one badly needs the routine and social benefits of nursery.

With scottish weather it is particularly annoying as who wants to sit in their garden with their mum whilst it’s pouring down/freezing and windy. I know I struggle and am constantly freezing.

I don’t live near my parents or my best friend. I am desperate to see them sad I don’t want to golf or fish

Except I wonder how many people live within 5 miles of a river to fish in or even a golf club in some cases. I noticed hillwalking was included too, I don't expect that everyone has a hill worth walking in 5 miles either.

I'd just keep in mind what you can do to minimise any risk from needing the loo and go and visit your folks while social distancing as requested.

I'm guessing with it being a BH weekend, lots will be starting phase 1 early - might ease the rush from next week.

Exactly @WaxOnFeckOff

What’s the point in saying you can go hiking, kayaking etc. and then saying oh but stay within 5 miles of home. No doubt golfers will be back out in force so that leaves even fewer areas that families can walk.

The impact of this long term on our children is going to be awful.

I've never felt so lucky to not have young children. Mine are at Uni but early enough in their studies for it not to be too impactful.

I've seen lots of posts on other forums about the poor freshers from the last year and how their experience has been ruined between this and the strikes. Ds2 was a fresher and he has had a whale of a time. Despite freshers flu, horrendous tonstilitus, strikes etc. He's still managed to learn about living away, party his socks off, find a girlfriend, pass all his stuff with flying colours and really grow up. Yes it was cut short but I feel more sorry for the ones starting this year that are probably going to miss out on all that bonding in the first term.

Yip, @WaxOnFeckOff and @arewethereyet21

So today’s briefing suggests the 5 miles as a guide, and that you can travel further to visit family. So I guess some exercise with a family visit might be in order, along with a catheter

Scotland peaked on the same day as England, why are we still being told we are behind?

Scotland peaked on the same day as England, why are we still being told we are behind?

becasue it suits some people to say so.

I'd rather they were honest and say something like: we've done well in getting the contraction levels down. England is a bigger place and has a wider variation to take their average from. We want to keep ours on longer just to make sure we don't get a resurgence. It's the lying I hate. Not exactly an open grown up conversation, as good a sound bite as that was at the time.

And until women fight against the stereotypes the longer they will earn less
Glad my DH and I's pay has always been similar

I'm sorry to any big sturgy fans here but this is pretty much what people think of her

She has definitely had her hair cut properly since lockdown, she must have done. It looks too good for her to have done it herself. I've been hacking away at mine with the help of a YouTube tutorial from my hairdresser and I don't look anything like as good as her.

I've always been the higher earner, DH gave up work when DC were small and was a stay at home dad with a bit of part time work from time to time. It's still the same, I reduced my hours by a very small bit (still full time really) so i could start early and still finish to do school pick ups when they were small and then he could go back to full time work as his doesn't lend itself particularly to part time. I have worked with men who have made part time/flexi arrangements (one doesn't even have DC) so I guess it isn't universal.

I think though that my experience isn't typical. It's funny how DH seemed to lose all his shopping and cooking abilities when he went back to work despite managing to do all that with a toddler...

I think from having a non typical early marriage, we are more typical now (in that I no doubt do more than my fair share despite still earning a lot more), but I am also a control freak and like things done my way - i never used to be so bothered.

It does say "broadly within 5 miles". It's trying to encourage people to keep it as local as possible.

I agree Noworries, i'd never go down the route of slagging off someones appearance, but from what I see she has quite difficult hair. I shouldn't think it's that easy to keep it looking as it did when it was done professionally. No doubt it would need dyed as well as cut by now?

My hair is completely straight and I've let it grow into my natural grey for years. I only get it cut about 3 times a year as it's literally just chopping a chuck off the bottom. It was overdue a cut before this started so now I've not had it cut since November. However, I'm mostly tying it back so it's not too witchy as I'm not on tv or even outside every day and I'm not doing zoom or anything else :)

www.parentclub.scot/topics/coronavirus/easing-restrictions-in-scotland?fbclid=IwAR3uEpvVervtbQ0o2E97mivfTzkpKCAWAVyICIjyjxG0y0PbU1fUQivugmo

This might be useful for folks with kids in schools and nursery.

A wig, possibly?

Maybe it's always been a wig?