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Another Referendum?

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Elllimam · 30/04/2015 10:46

I'm not debating the positives or negatives of independence Shock but I was wondering if the SNP does have a landslide victory in Scotland do you think they will be able to push through another referendum? I had assumed it would be a given but saw Ed Miliband yesterday had vetoed the idea of another vote. m.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/ed-miliband-rules-out-new-scottish-independence-vote-1-3757507 I would have thought if the SNP were in control they could have held a referendum if they wanted to? Excuse my extreme political ignorance.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/05/2015 11:46

There are mumblings already - that's why he's been talking about a minority government of Labour with SNP support would not be 'legitimate'

The mumblers are very wrong. What would not be legitimate is excluding the elected representatives of one of the countries of the UK from government.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/05/2015 11:50

Stacey - thank you for your kind words - and yes, I know it is not normal to be this affected by a referendum or election. I have a long history of depression, going back to my teenage years (and that is an awfu' long way back, now Grin). I have had group therapy, medication and individual, cognitive behavioural therapy, and at the moment, I am hoping that I will be able to utilise the CBT techniques I learned, to recover from this current slump, after the election.

There have been a number of other stresses in my life, which have contributed to my current poor state of mental health - my lovely MIL died of cancer last year, dh's employment has changed so his office is in London, not Glasgow, so he is away a lot more, and one of our dogs has had to have two major orthopaedic operations, which require a long and slow recovery - so I should not (and do not) solely blame the politicians for how I feel now.

MmeLindor · 05/05/2015 11:51

Yes, well that is what I think too - that a SNP supported Labour government would be more legitimate than a Tory/Lib Dem one, but I've seen three articles this weekend about the mumblings, and I wouldn't put it past Cameron to attempt this.

The more seats Labour has, the better, imo.

funnyossity · 05/05/2015 12:05

I said "may hinge" deliberately. It would be a stick with which to beat Labour, that can't be denied.

StaceyAndTracey · 05/05/2015 13:28

SDT - I'm sorry, you've been through a lot

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/05/2015 14:07

It hasn't been the best of years, Stacey - but I am hoping that things will get better - and I will be able to cope with them better too.

OOAOML · 05/05/2015 14:50

I think it is natural for some people to be very affected by the referendum - both Yes and No voters. It was pitched very much as the only chance - some people really wanted it, some people really didn't. I was talking to someone about my husband and I voting differently and she said 'well lots of couples cancel each other out at elections' and I was trying to explain how I felt it was much more serious because this vote was potentially FOREVER. And was potentially going to lead to my job moving south. The consequences were major for some people.

Also, for a lot of people (including myself) it was the first time they got seriously involved in politics. I actually enjoyed it at the same time as finding it really stressful. I stepped massively out of my comfort zone, and I am still amazed that I did, it was so out of character.

On social media a lot of people on both sides are pitching this election as Indyref2, and passions on all sides are still high, so inevitably it is stressful for some. I'm quite stressed because I'm doing my best to re-elect my MP and the odds are tough. But I can only do what I believe is the right thing - as do SNP canvassers.

OOAOML · 05/05/2015 14:51

I think it is natural for some people to be very affected by the referendum - both Yes and No voters. It was pitched very much as the only chance - some people really wanted it, some people really didn't. I was talking to someone about my husband and I voting differently and she said 'well lots of couples cancel each other out at elections' and I was trying to explain how I felt it was much more serious because this vote was potentially FOREVER. And was potentially going to lead to my job moving south. The consequences were major for some people.

Also, for a lot of people (including myself) it was the first time they got seriously involved in politics. I actually enjoyed it at the same time as finding it really stressful. I stepped massively out of my comfort zone, and I am still amazed that I did, it was so out of character.

On social media a lot of people on both sides are pitching this election as Indyref2, and passions on all sides are still high, so inevitably it is stressful for some. I'm quite stressed because I'm doing my best to re-elect my MP and the odds are tough. But I can only do what I believe is the right thing - as do SNP canvassers.

OOAOML · 05/05/2015 14:51

sorry - screen hanging massively, didn't mean to post twice

MmeLindor · 05/05/2015 15:18

It would have repercussions for us too. DH's company is based in England, and I know that some of his customers were moving their business dealings down south, in case the referendum went through. Not to mention, the fact that he's EU citizen, so no idea what would happen re working visa etc.

Behooven · 05/05/2015 17:32

I see two of the eejits from yesterday's stushie have been suspended by the SNP. Hopefully they will be properly dealt with and not just re-instated once a period of time has passed like the Paisley counsellors were.

Also this puts to bed the ridiculous pathetic conspiracy theory that Jim Murphy set it up himself.

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