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Our first Relate appointment is tomorrow, I'm scared.

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Scorps · 14/12/2009 10:12

DH & I are at 'shit or bust' point in our marriage. He came back to the family home on Friday night after 12 days away; He says he doesn't love me anymore. We want to go to counselling and try, because at least if we do split we can say we did everything possible. It has all stemmed from when i mc in Feb i think. I got pg v quickly after, but totally withdrew into myself. Another woman paid him attention and when i was 15 weeks pg he kissed her. Since then i have been terrified and not let him out of my sight, have withdrawn love from him and affection, etc. He would say he loved me and i wouldnt even say anything back.

He is behaving oddly now - saying he doesn't love me, then when i had a 'revelation' this morning saying to him that maybe because of my self worth i should just quit now, i have alot to offer a man etc, he gets upset. We have had sex this weekend too but I'm not allowing that anymore - he can't reach out to me on the sofa, but tries to have sex. I told him today no more of that and he agreed. He said he wants his affection to be true when he does it, and i think thats best too.

He is not nasty; I'm 38+3 weeks with dc4 and he is caring for me and the dc. I have enough money, etc. He is a fantastic father and really wants to go to Relate, but isnt commiting himself to saying he wants our marriage to work.

I'm scared about the appointment, what we will have to talk about, what he will say that will just hurt me more, Relate isn't superglue .

What will happen, any advice, nice things to say to me? Feel like im living life blindfolded. Please dont think he's nasty hes not, its been such a hard year, 2009 has.

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IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 30/01/2010 10:33

You're doing really well

Sounds like he's starting to realise what he's done.

Have a great night out x

Scorps · 30/01/2010 11:20

His fb status is now: life sucks have seriously had enough

I haven't done anything though

omg. See how scared I still am of what I've 'done'?

I have realised life is slow ATM but my babies are beautiful, I will live a happy life, maybe one day with a good man but If not, I have the best family, friends and dc. My family are amazing - my dad is such a rock, nothing will break him. My mum held me a few weeks ago and said I was her pfb an she loves me always. My sisters tell me they love me every day. I am seeing friends every day. I'm definitely managing the motherhood part of my life - 4 dc and I can still do it

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IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 30/01/2010 12:46

you rock and it will definitely be a good night out tonight!

you won't feel this ok all of the time at the moment but the curve will be up IYSWIM

MisSalLaneous · 30/01/2010 14:06

Have a fantastic night tonight! And don't let me find out you misbehaved! Just joking, hope you have a great night.

Fleecy · 30/01/2010 14:20

Yay for you! Have a brilliant night and enjoy yourself lots. Bet you look and feel fab in your lovely dress

Scorps · 30/01/2010 18:02

I won't b naughty though I might talk to men to see how it works lol

had nice day in town with sister and friend.

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MisSalLaneous · 30/01/2010 18:13

Have fun!

Scorps · 30/01/2010 18:27

Have heard a perfect song

Ego by the Saturdays

pmsl

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feelhorrid · 30/01/2010 21:06

Have followed your tale and am hoping you have a fab night out tonight...if not than there will always be next time! Bet you looked beautiful. xxxxx

Scorps · 30/01/2010 23:53

Had a nice time danced etc

but god are men such perves.

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SheWillBeLoved · 31/01/2010 00:11

Just read this thread. You're amazing, honestly

You seem like such a loyal, loving person - whenever you question whether anybody would want you in the future, ask yourself who wouldn't want you. If somebody like him managed to land somebody like you, then what on earth are you worrying about!

Now go and sneak a kiss from your littlest one whilst she sleeps - don't swamp these precious early months with her with thoughts of him and what could have been or will be. New start, for all of you.

MisSalLaneous · 31/01/2010 00:12

(not glad that the men were perves, but glad that you realised you don't want to waste your time with losers!) What did they do to annoy you so, btw? Obviously the guys you meet on night out is not representative of the whole sex!

Anyway, nicer topic - Good to hear you had a nice time. Did you feel pretty and happy?

Scorps · 31/01/2010 00:32

They were looking at me like meat. I walked past one who said 'oh shit' but ina pervy 'damn girl' kinda way

others perving at dancing etc. Horrid, scary, not used to it. All ugly anyway.

I had cuddles with lacey when I got in. No men for me for a while. I know this now.

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Scorps · 31/01/2010 10:04

Did child handover again, he wants to talk, his work hours are reducing because Z is coming soon, less money for me I guess but I'm not budging on the contact as that's not my dcs problem and I need breaks anyway. He looks so rough.

I thought I'd feel happier having been out but actually I don't. It's such a scary world out there. I had a family, it's not my fault he is who he is. Feel like all men are perves, cheaters, liars. I wanted it all, thought I had it but I didn't have what I wanted really.

I guess it's the whole self esteem issue still, it's early days still etc. Wish I felt a bit better like earlier in the week.

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kinnies · 31/01/2010 10:21

Morning Scorps

Glad you got to go out lastnight.
Much waited for nights nout can ofter be a bit of a let down IME.

The world can seem a scary place espes as you've had the rug pulled from under you.

Its hard to move on when it feels like you are standing still.
I dont blame you for being angry with life. You are right, you didnt ask for this and love has let you down.

I know it might not feel like it, but you are blessed.
You have supportive friends and a loving family (no less than you deserve).

You must be tired today and that always makes my mood low.

Anyway, its a lovley bright day today and the world is your oyster. xx

SheWillBeLoved · 31/01/2010 10:28

Don't beat yourself up, going on a night out so soon after everything that has happened with him and having your daughter is bound to be a massive shock. You have gone from being somebodies wife, to being single and out on the meat market town in little over a month, why would that feel normal right now?

You're going to be absolutely fine. You don't need him, surviving this past month or so has proven that, no matter how hard it has been. Look around at your wonderful family and friends - they are all you need right now.

You'll come out of this on top, I hope you know this. There's no way you could come out any other way with such a fantastic support network

Just don't expect too much of yourself too soon. x

Scorps · 31/01/2010 10:29

Thankyou no not tired, lacey slept midnight - 8am.

Ithink seeing him is messing me up. I can see the state he's in, I can't switch off caring for him on some level yet. His fb status are doing y nut in. Todays is k wants a time machine.

Yes kinnies I think you got my fear thing just right, thankyou that's how it feels I think.

mum be here later will talk to her about it too.

Men are awful things. I know a few good men, yes, but the ones I don't know just look at me for one thing and I'm not and never will be that thing.

Can't wait till tonight, film in bed with my fluffy haired baby and some mini eggs.

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Scorps · 31/01/2010 10:35

SWBL - thankyou yes that's right too, you're all saying it far better than me wish I had a better ability to switch off, move along, but I guess I'm making progress slowly.

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nipscouldcutglass · 31/01/2010 12:11

you are a nice person - that his why his fb is bothering. I would need to remove him as a friend to stop this happening.

Scorps · 31/01/2010 15:37

Feeling down today. Think I will never meet a nice normal good man. Last night scared me. It's weird the state K is in too, and the fb things. I mean why put it on there?!

I'm not feeling very comfy in myself today. Looking forward to tonight, going to go to bed early and put a film on. might go cinema in the week.

Mum said I was down last Sunday too. Odd!

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MisSalLaneous · 31/01/2010 18:12

Tell you what: I know you don't want to remove K from your FB yet. You should, but we all have this odd fascination / curiosity about our exes. So... Hide him. You know you want to look, but you know it upsets you. So hide him. For a start, hide him just for the week. You can check updates after a week. Then it'll get boring and you'll do it less. Try it. This is like picking at a scar. You know you shouldn't, but can't help yourself, and then it hurts / upsets a little when you do. And it makes the healing slower. Try and avoid interaction where possible if it upsets you.

Scorps · 01/02/2010 07:49

Thats a good idea sal

still feeling a little wobbly, not sure what about. At least he can't cheat on me anymore because I don't deserve that. I'm coping with dc, feeling ok with my life, just such a big change I think. I don't know. Fear maybe.

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Scorps · 01/02/2010 09:19

Fecking twatting iPod. Song come on that he once said was about me from his perspective.

Am off to do muchos housework.

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Fleecy · 01/02/2010 14:41

Enjoy the housework

Glad you had a good night at the weekend but sorry to hear you've been struggling since.

Think Sal's plan is a good one. I'd forgotten you could do that - I hid someone once because they updated their status every five minutes. Ridiculous!

Scorps · 01/02/2010 17:19

Shit

He text my friend yesterday.

He misses me, loves me, thinks he had some kind of mental breakdown, was stubborn. Wants to hold me. I look amazing. He's pissed on his dream.

Jesus fuck bollocks

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