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my mother...again

81 replies

Chyla · 15/06/2005 22:14

She and her internet 'boyfriend' chat from 8pm to 10:30 everynight which is what my mother and I agreed, then I go on at 10:30 for an hour or so but tonight as like a few nights ago, he is able to stay on longer, so she says she is staying on longer which will prob be past when I go to bed. This is so unfair to change the arrangements and she thinks it is fair.

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aaliyahsmum · 15/06/2005 23:36

do you have any friends

Flossam · 15/06/2005 23:37

Don't think it is scientific. Might just dilute the paracetamol making it harder to clear. I don't know the advice these days, I only know what happens with the patients when they get as far as me. Did you seek help last time with your paracetamol o/d?

mandyc66 · 15/06/2005 23:37

go get sorted at a and e
will catch up tomorrow.
Dont throw your life away ...if she is so bad why let her win?

collision · 15/06/2005 23:37

If what you say is true (and I have no reason to believe that it isnt) then leave her house. She sounds vile to me and you are obv depressed.

There is help out there so go and get it.

Chyla · 15/06/2005 23:37

Its not just her being online mandy. i wouldnt have a tantrum just because of that. it is loads of things. its because she makes my life hell. i wonder if she really wanted me.

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collision · 15/06/2005 23:39

CHYLA.........STOP POSTING AND GET TO HOSPITAL NOW!

YOUR MOTHER IS NOT WORTH IT AND YOU NEED SOME HELP.

mandyc66 · 15/06/2005 23:39

well as I said dont let her win! You are worth more. You are your own person so get help in any way. Starting with hospital NOW!!!!
Then go to cab and sort out housing etc!
You can do it
you are stronger than you think

soapbox · 15/06/2005 23:39

Okay - no need to panic it would seem that the low dosage required for o/d is a bit of a myth.

Here is some info. Chyla is unlikely to have done herself any damage so we can all go to bed now

Sorry SJ

The recommended adult single dose of paracetamol is two standard 500 mg tablets. Research shows that the common threshold for liver damage to occur from a single paracetamol overdose is 15 gms (30 tablets) although standard hospital guidelines allow an extra safety margin and assume liver damage could occur at a single overdose of 24 standard tablets or 150 mg/kg body weight, whichever is the smaller.

The overdose threshold may be lowered in a person taking certain prescription medicines, or a person who is an alcoholic or is seriously undernourished. If the overdose is spread over a period of time the threshold may be higher, as the initial paracetamol dose is effectively metabolised. (The recommended maximum dose in a 24 hour period is 4g or 8 tablets).

There are often no symptoms in the first 24 hours following overdose, although there may be mild nausea and vomiting. In a large overdose liver function deteriorates leading to jaundice, confusion, and loss of consciousness. Death is rare but when it occurs it is due to liver failure.

Treatment of a serious paracetamol overdose is mainly by administration of an antidote which can prevent the toxic effects of the overdose. This must be done early, ideally within 12 hours of the overdose although it can still be beneficial up to 24 hours or even later.

Treatment must be supervised in a hospital. It is important that if a paracetamol overdose is suspected, hospital treatment is sought without delay.

In England and Wales on average approximately 130 deaths per year can be directly attributed to paracetamol alone. In the vast majority of these cases the overdose is deliberate, and these deaths are returned as certain or probable suicides. In a small number of cases the overdose was intentional but the individual's expectation was not to cause death. Such deaths may be recorded as accidental.

collision · 15/06/2005 23:40

Goodnight all.

HappyHuggy · 15/06/2005 23:40

JUST TO AGREE WITH COLLISION

GET YOUR BUM OUT OF THE COMPUTER CHAIR AND GET IN A TAXI TO A & E

NOW!!!!!!!!

HappyHuggy · 15/06/2005 23:41

sorry soapbox - posts crossed

mandyc66 · 15/06/2005 23:42

well night all!
Remember tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your life!
Make it as you want it!!!!

aaliyahsmum · 15/06/2005 23:42

i think you need to sort out your issues with you past before you can move on, have you seen any sort of professional about your abortion because i think you really need to

Chyla · 15/06/2005 23:44

who can I see about the abortion? I am thinking of going to the doctor with depression and then seeing if they can refer me to a councillor

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Flossam · 15/06/2005 23:45

S/B, i'm sorry I'm going to have to disagree. Chyla needs to be checked over by a doctor. For all we know she may only wiegh five stone. The o/d she has taken before may have already affected her liver function. We don't know (she hasn't answered questions) whether she had been seen regarding this. Bloods would need to be taken to acsertain the level of the drug in her system. The tablets could have been extra strenght.... You need to go to hospital if you want to be certain of waking in the morning.

aaliyahsmum · 15/06/2005 23:47

i am surprised you were not offered bereavement councelling at the time i was when i miscarried at 3 months and i was 16

soapbox · 15/06/2005 23:48

Flossom - only Chyla can make that decision and from where I'm sitting she doesn't seem to be overly concerned about getting any help!

Flossam · 15/06/2005 23:50

You are right s/b. I'm a nurse and do hear of some 'freak' accidents etc. The internet is wonderful for helping people get support for their various problems, but I disagree with it being used to diagnose or in self diagnoses. Doctors have had lots and lots of training for their jobs!

Chyla · 15/06/2005 23:51

yea, im going to the hospital now. The tablets I took where called Aclovir or something, not paracetemol.

Aaliyahsmum, I was offered counselling but my mother told me to turn it down.

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aaliyahsmum · 15/06/2005 23:51

some times you sort things out by having a good cry and blurting out your problems to a complete stranger who you dont know so they cant judge you. do you have no for samaritians

Chyla · 15/06/2005 23:55

Yes I do aaliyahsmum, but I might feel like a right idiot talking to them, as I would do at abortion counselling.

I feel better after telling u lot of my problems so thanks for just lending an ear, its muchly appreciated.

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HappyHuggy · 15/06/2005 23:57

if you think that the samaritains is just for wierdos then you are so wrong. these people have expert training and they just listen. Yes it'll be hard to call them and you might stumble over your words a bit at first but the feeling of relief at being able to get everything off your chest is huge. You'll feel more focused and ready to take the next steps you need for a happier life.

aaliyahsmum · 15/06/2005 23:59

i felt silly when i sat and cried on the bench waiting for the bus and told an old lady all my problems but after i got it all off my chest i felt so much better and the best thing was i had completley cleared my head and got things into prospective. they wont think you are silly and they have most proberley heard it all before trust me it helps to talk about your problems

Chyla · 16/06/2005 00:02

Thanks aaliyahs mum and happy huggy, I will try them tomorrow. I am definately going to go to the doctors. I cant go on feeling like I wanna end it every single day. Do anti dpressents really work and will I feel happier?

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HappyHuggy · 16/06/2005 00:06

If possible call them tonight. Go onto the samaritans website and get the number for you local branch. Honestly - you will sleep much easier after just talking to some one.

Are you going to the hospital?

I know it must be hard living with your mom - is there anyway you can get out?

stay with friends or other family?
go and see the council tomorrow and tell them whats happening. See the doctor and maybe he can give you a letter to take with you which will help your case.

if you cant face talking to the doctor try writing him/her a letter and they can read it whilst your there.

i dont know about anti-depressants, but i know they dont have an imediate affect.