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Our 6th visit to the Stately Home.....

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oneplusone · 19/05/2009 11:52

Hi all, took the liberty of starting a new thread. Keep on posting!

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oneplusone · 19/06/2009 12:55

Congratulations Rose! That's wonderful news. OPO x

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BopTheAlien · 19/06/2009 15:33

So glad to hear your news Rose! Well done, big congrats and lots of love xxx

smithfield · 20/06/2009 08:52

That's fabulous news Rose.Congratulations!!!

AttilaTheMeerkat · 20/06/2009 09:14

Roseability,

Congratulations to you on the birth of your Daughter.

PinkyMinxy · 21/06/2009 12:01

I hate to be the one to post after such lovely news,but I am still struggling with all this. DH said when he spoke to my mother he really didn't think she was taking in anything he was saying- especially about him not having a problem with me. SHe was trying really hard to get DH to 'admit' that I am the problem. I suppose my siblings and my father will readily agree with her,and my SIL doesn't seem to know any different either, so why shouldn't DH. The fact that he has married me, had a family with me and stayed with me for 20 years clearly does not mean anything- I suppose she would characterize him as being long suffering, like her, putting up with me because they are so lovely. But I am beginning to accept this is not true.

It is strange because even my brother once told my parents they 'were going too far' once, when they were being particularly abusive towards me (I only have my sister's word for this). But even that upsets me- it implies that my brother knows my parents were abusing me all along, it was just when it seemed a little too overt that he advised them to rein things in a bit.

I know I cannot let things carry on the way they were, but I am really struggling. I feel as though I am being cruel to my mother. And yet I know she is no good for me. She doesn't really miss me- or else she would be rringing me up- she wants me to ring her so she can win, and I feel like I am playing her game- wether I ring her or not she knows she is having an effect on me. Maybe if I never ring her again she will get the idea, I dunno. But then it feels like I am punishing her, which is wrong. I am not though, I just don't want to ring her anmd have her lay on the emotional guilt trip because she breaks my heart every time she does it.

Please excuse my ramblings

PinkyMinxy · 21/06/2009 12:05

The other option is that I ring her and she behaves as though nothing is wrong- the whole 'it's all in your head pinky' routine.

I wish i could just stop thinking about it.

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BopTheAlien · 21/06/2009 21:29

Hear hear, I agree with everything AN has said. You are quite within your rights not to ring, Pinky - and if it helps you can think of it as self preservation (which it truly is) rather than punishment. It's another part of the guilt trip and the inequality between you that she can behave as badly as she likes to you, but if you do anything she doesn't like, you're "punishing" her. Abusers ALWAYS make out they're the victim, and that their victim - the one who's really the victim - is the one bullying them - "poor them"!

Like everyone else, I think you're doing really well and have come so far in such a short time. You are reclaiming power over the situation by doing what's best for you, not what's best for her - which is exactly what she doesn't like. And she's not used to this, so it isn't going to be easy - she probably will try her utmost to get things back to how they were. Her response to your DH standing up for you is very telling, and really horrible. Please if you can don't blame yourself for thinking about it all the time - this is big stuff, it's your life at the end of the day, and it does take over.

Btw, thanks for what you said to me before, and I think you're fab too!!!

PinkyMinxy · 21/06/2009 21:54

Thank you so much for your replies, they make me feel a lot better about things.
Had a really lovely day today- went ot one of my DH's cousin's for the day, it was lovely, everyone having a nice time, being themselves. Watching the way they interract with their teenage children and each other makes me see how dysfunctional my own family are. Also how suprised I am when people are nice to me. I couldn't help thinking 'why would they want to invite me?' Fleetingly I dared to think 'maybe it's because they like me. To anyone else that would sound self pitying and silly, but I think you will understand what I mean?

We actually went through my parents village to get there. I started thinking about all the times we had gone there for me to be shouted at or ignored etc. when we could have been having a good time elsewhere. I felt no compunction to visit my parents at all.

I too believe this is progress.

smithfield · 21/06/2009 22:55

pinky That is great news. I too second what AN and Bop said.
The guilt can be crippling at times Pinky but eventually there will be more and more moments like these. Moments of complete clarity.xx

AN I also wanted to thank you for what you wrote a little while back about making friends and how hard you found it and how you kept going and now have found some true friends.
I found this incredibly heplful as I am finding things difficult too. Just started doing morning school runs for ds's pre-school and all the old anxieties are raising their ugly heads. The 'not good enough' being one in particular.
I have always been the outsider or felt to be. Singled out at school for being diiferent, vulnerable, awkward. I know I carry this around with me. But I am determined to change old patterns and keep getting back in there.
I found your honesty really refreshing. Thanyou.

Sakura · 22/06/2009 04:28

Hi,
I had my baby boy last Saturday! A very quick birth- got to the midwife's at 2:40a.m and he was here at 3:30a.m.

Roseability, congratulations on the birth of your daughter.

My MIL has been very "good" so far. She stayed away, so we visited her place on Sunday, which ended up being quite nice. It makes me think that it was "all in my mind" but then I remember how incredibly awful I would feel in her presence and that tells me that my instincts were trying to tell me something. I think she knows that I wouldn't hesitate to stop bringing the baby round if she started her controlling antics again. I don't think she's changed as such, more like she's backed down, as bullies tend to do when they are confronted. Ah well, we'll see...

Sakura · 22/06/2009 04:36

Oh, I came across this fascinating website

Phsychopath and Narcissist Support Group

Sakura · 22/06/2009 04:38

Sorry, Phsychopath and Narcissist Survivors Support Group!!

BopTheAlien · 22/06/2009 08:57

Congratulations Sakura! Wonderful news, and also very glad to hear that MIL is behaving herself so far! Well done you xxx

Lemonylemon · 22/06/2009 09:09

Sakura Congratulations! How lovely.....

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PinkyMinxy · 22/06/2009 10:07

OH wow Sakura what lovely news!

Congratulations!

And Smithfield thank you. I'm sure there will come a point where I have to confront her head on, but for now I am buying myself some time, I guess.

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smithfield · 22/06/2009 13:18

Congratulations Sakura That is wonderful news in indeed.
Yes, I agree with what AN said, have definately foun MIL has relaxed a bit more with the appearance of second gc. Not in your head though, stay strong with her.xx

roseability · 22/06/2009 13:58

Congratulations Sakura!

I too have been stronger and 'stood up' to my adoptive parents. Consequently I am having a much nicer experience this time. I didn't have such a quick birth as you! 18 hours of labour and a third degree tear! However birthing my daughter in water and lifting her straight to my chest was the most amazing and healing experience of my life. I actually don't feel stressed about my adoptive parent's visit at the weekend because I really don't care what they think.

Continue to enjoy your little boy and love to everyone else

AttilaTheMeerkat · 22/06/2009 14:44

Congratulations to you Sakura on the birth of your son.

PinkyMinxy · 22/06/2009 21:31

AN hope you are feeling a bit clearer.

Rose you sound very upbeat and strong- that's lovely. I never really ahd that hormone rush- had 3 csections, but having DD2 popped onto me whilst still in theatre was as you say a very healing experience.

BopTheAlien · 22/06/2009 22:12

AN I think I know kind of what you mean, or something a bit like it at any rate - sometimes there's something going on that I can't pinpoint but it makes everything really difficult, I feel really stuck and bunged up somehow, can't connect with anyone, even the littlest things are really challenging. For me it usually resolves sooner or later when I "get" what it is that's upsetting me in particular - it could be a conversation, something on TV or that I read, something that has triggered another layer of stuff. And then usually I need to go through another grieving process when I realise what that thing is. It's usually a relief to be able to feel it and grieve it whatever it is when it finally comes to the surface; that interim period when it's hovering underneath is just really uncomfortable/unpleasant, so I hope that if it's something similar for you, it resolves itself soon!

Sakura · 23/06/2009 03:49

Thank you all for all the warm messages.

Roseablility, just like you I feel much stronger this time. It sounds like you had a wonderful birth, despite the length.

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