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AM I A MONEY-GRABBER?

65 replies

milkmonster · 13/12/2008 21:21

My partner (although I plan to leave him in the new year) claims jobseeker's allowance and has been unemployed the six years I've been with him, possibly not had a job since he left uni save a couple of deadenders such as market research/street surveys. He exists frugally and also from his (undeclared) ebay earnings which can vary £1000 a month to nothing at all the next month. He doesn't save. We are age 40 and 42.

We don't live together and he only provides the minimum £5 a week automatically taken from his dole money by the CSA. He doesn't offer a penny more. He refuses to ever work again in order not to have to pay more for his children (19 months and one on the way). He owns his house, I live in rented. He won't sell his house or enable us all to live in it together (he's a hoarder, it's a mental condition before you ask means no it will never be possible to live in same house as someone like that).

What I'd like to know is, do most women in my situation settle happily for the minimum contribution of £5, or if there is a possibility they could obtain more, for example because my partner owns his own home outright (which benefits agency class as 'income', although I don;t know how they figure that if the house is effectively uninhabitable due to junk and rubbish he can hardly renti it out for income or sell it ) and also his ebay earnings, they might attempt that?

He doesn't believe in financially supporting his children he's already said the taxpayers can do that because I claim Income Support so would not agree to helping me with a penny more, but I would find it a huge help for instance if he offered to pay for creche 5 days a week (£13 a week) so I could get some 'me time', as my family live 200 miles away so I have no friends or support here. Yet I keep reading on forums single mums in similar circustances to me are receiving up to £150 a month from their ex-partners and I'm wondering if I'm getting diddled?

I've already researched childcare costs and am planning my future in order to go to work once the new baby is a few years old and can see I need some serious savings in place for that, which I was hoping more contributions from my partner would assist with. Am I a 'money grabber' by thinking of ways to get him to offer more financial assistance?

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Lauriefairyonthetreeeatscake · 13/12/2008 21:24

Not a money-grabber but it sounds pointless and fruitless chasing him. You have always known what he is like so I don't understand why you're in a relationship/having children with him.

Lauriefairyonthetreeeatscake · 13/12/2008 21:26

posted too quick

you haven't said what you like about him or why you've chosen to have children with him. Is he a great guy? a good father?

yama · 13/12/2008 21:28

What is tying you to where you live - apart from your soon-to-be-ex-partner?

Can you move nearer to your family? Could they offer your lo's more than your dp does?

milkmonster · 13/12/2008 21:30

I don't like anything about him, that's why I'm leaving, it's taken years to get to this point.

The question is about money though, an analysis of my relationship isn't relevant.

Thankyou smile

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moondog · 13/12/2008 21:31

god,sounds like a real catch.
why did you/are you procreating with him?
what do you mean by leaving in the new year? why then? wy not now?

moondog · 13/12/2008 21:32

so technically you are still with him yet he doesn't pay for them? does he look after them?

DippyDino · 13/12/2008 21:33

Perhaps try posting in money / legal matters rather than relationships?

milkmonster · 13/12/2008 21:33

Please, I'd like advice on the money aspect, not the relationship!

This used to be a loving relationship, that's how procreation happens...

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yama · 13/12/2008 21:33

In that case - no you don't sound like a 'money-grabber'.

moondog · 13/12/2008 21:34

did he ever pay/look after the older one?

milkmonster · 13/12/2008 21:34

No he doesnt look after them and only contributes £5 CSA a week.

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beanieb · 13/12/2008 21:34

I think if that's what the CSA have judged to be what he can afford (I think that's standard for someone on benefits) then that is all you can ver expect unless his work circumstances change. Even if you were to tell them about his ebay 'wage' I don't think they would count it. Sorry.

sticksantaupyourchimney · 13/12/2008 21:35

If you are not married and not living with him but working you will get CTC/WTC I would have thought.

moondog · 13/12/2008 21:36

but if you were/are with him ,why was it a CSA ruling?

milkmonster · 13/12/2008 21:36

Yes I already get CTC that's not the question though.

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Lauriefairyonthetreeeatscake · 13/12/2008 21:36

it's relevant because if he contributes in other ways like offering to look after them then it gives you some help.

You can't get blood out of a stone (and they won't make him sell or rent his house) so if you can think of ways to get him to help you out then you can have your 'me' time/prepare for work/do a course.

Sorry for what you're going through, pop over to the lone parents thread if you want to moan about him not giving you money, lots of people in the same boat over there.

moondog · 13/12/2008 21:37

And I'm absolutely intrigued to know why ypu wanted a second baby with a man who is obviously of no support or use to you. How come?

moondog · 13/12/2008 21:37

And I'm absolutely intrigued to know why ypu wanted a second baby with a man who is obviously of no support or use to you. How come?

milkmonster · 13/12/2008 21:37

He claims benefits so the CSA ruling is automated.

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milkmonster · 13/12/2008 21:38

Why does it 'absolutely intrigue' you? Bizarre. If you fancy someone, you have sex with them, especially if they're your partner.

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AuraofDora · 13/12/2008 21:39

threaten to shop him for his ebay earnings if he doesnt fork out a bit more for his kids

sounds a real winner

critterjitter · 13/12/2008 21:40

No, it sounds like he is a money grabber. Perhaps his ebay earnings need 'declaring.' £5 a week for a child is laughable. What does that cover - a couple of packs of wipes?

If he's on the dole then it may well be that his mortgage (interest) is being paid for as well. However, isn't there going to be a massive drive to get the unemployed working again? Sounds like you might have more luck when he's forced to work again, and then the CSA can chase his salary...

milkmonster · 13/12/2008 21:40

I thought of that, but some people seem to think the CSA dont take ebay earnings into account, even if youre earning up to ten thousand a year!

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moondog · 13/12/2008 21:41

Because I can't imagine fancying someone who
-can't be arsed to work
-thieves
-doesn't pay his way
-doesn't want ot live or house his children
-expects other people to pay for his kids
-lives in a pit

I'm just old fashioned like that i guess.

nancy75 · 13/12/2008 21:42

i dont understand why you get money through the csa if you are still a couple? usually csa are only involved if you have split up?

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