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husband has been having an affair

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foxy1 · 05/12/2008 20:31

i found out my husband has been having an affair at the weekend. we have been together 17 years and married 8 years. we have 2 toddlers and i am a sahm. i came across lots of very graphicpictures from his phone on our computer (there by accident). he worked with her and i suspected something when his mobile phone bill was really high last summer 07 and there was one number that kept on appearing. he said that she was just a friend and that was it. the dirty pictures date back to oct 06 to april 08. it started when i was pregnant with my second. my mother had died and and i had a c section with second. checked recent phones bills and her number is still on there regularly. he has said that nothing has happened since the early part of this year. that he has kept in contact with her to stop her from telling me. now i know, he has has told her he can't have anything to do with her. i feel so sad i can't believe its happened to me. he said it was only sex nothing else. i am angry that he has continued to keep in contact with her as much as he has done. i don't want to throw 17 years away so i have said that i will give him a chance. she works there and am worried that she will continue to pursue him.

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Dropdeadfred · 06/12/2008 20:09

if it was just sex then why all the high phone bills? why the photos?

he doesn't seem to be heartbroken and sorry for what he's done - betrayed his wife and broken her heart...betraying her whilst she carried his child....

maturer · 07/12/2008 11:14

foxy1 I'm so sorry you are in this position those feelings of shock, betrayal, disbelief saddness and love all going around in your head at the same time-I've been there and i never wish that upon anyone.

It was 5 years ago my dh had an affair with a work colleague- completley out of the blue- no obvious reason or problems with us- it nearly tore us apart (we'd been married 16 years at that point- together 20, we have 3 children)It took the best part fo yaer to totally get HER out of our lives (she became a bit of a bunny boiler- wouldn't take no for an answer- mainly because of the selfish way my dh acted through all of it)

My 1st reaction when I heard was to pull him closer and fight for us- I just couldn't believe he really wanted to throw away all the good years we'd shared. He "lost the plot"- that's the only way I can describe it- for that year and we both know now had i not stayed strong and fought for us we'd have seperated then.

At the time he could not reason- I learned that an affair is a very strong thing in the way it takes over your emotions- he acted like a complete stranger- I no longer knew the man I'd been with for 20 years and it took that year to get him back completely,

We are stronger now than ever before and closer- he now can look at it rationally and se what a prize "tw**t" he was and how - inis words he "nearly threw away so much for so little" At the time he couldn't see that. Affairs are about escapism, fantasy they make you feel really good about yourself but can only do that if you suspend reality-they are not always even about escaping you relationship they can be about escaping something in yourself.

So believe YOU are in no way to blame for this HE made the choices HE is responsible for his actions with have consiquences on everyone in his life. Even if times were tough (which does nit excuse but helps make senes of it)he ALWAYS had the option to talk to you to express his feelings to seek help.

Now you are in the driving seat- he's made all the choices, selfish choices - for now he's ;ost the right to trust and privacy in his actions he now needs to start working very hard to convince you that he's sorry. I found it could only be done by honest open painful talking a "no more secerets" manatra and we both (seperately) went to counselling- him to try to understand why he'd gone where he did- me to try to cope with the enormity fo the situation and the rollercoaster of emotions that come with it.I found it helped me decide what I WANTED and I wanted us to come through. I weighed up all we'd had in the years before this awful year and decided I wanted us to fight for that.Only you know if your marriage is worth that painful fight- no one else can tell you that- and it is not the easy option it's a very slow healing process but if you want it and he wants it then you can come out closer and sronger.

I hope this helps a little- I felt at the time there was a lot of "social pressure" to "kick him out, don't let him treat you like this' don't be weak girl!etc" but in fact until you've lived through it you can't say those things- he's your dh, your lover, your best friend and my thoughts were this is the first time in20 years we've faced a true problem I can't just give up on us because I'm so hurt.

I believe (as ciched as it is) that my dh had some sort of a "mid life crisis"- no excuses- he made the choices- but it did help me make sesnes of it. To move on you have to make sense of what just happened and face all the demonds (all the details)then and only then can you start to move forward.

I do hope you get what you want out of this- remeber none of this is your fault. But if you have something good - and some people never come close to that in relationships- just look at some of the threads on here- then fight for it! Good luck-take care of YOURSELF.

TisTheSeasonToBeSolo · 07/12/2008 11:31

You truly have my sympathies.

If OW had asked him to leave you for her, then my guess is that if he did continue it with her and she knows you 'know' about the affair, she would probably try to tell you that it was still going on. She may do that even if it isn't though to try to get you to throw him out and into her arms.

My situation is a little different from yours in as much as we aren't married, don't live together and it was only four years.

I wish you all that you wish for yourself and your family. Good luck.x

blinks · 07/12/2008 11:55

agree that long phonecalls don't tally with 'just sex'.

i'd bet he's lying.

foxy1 · 07/12/2008 12:16

would be interesting to hear from a mans point of view what they think regarding whether they would have had feelings for them, what they would have talked about/text on the phone. he is not the most emotional person so I can't imagine him loving more than 1 person. thanks for everyones replies!!

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lauralou1 · 07/12/2008 12:40

hi foxy1

i am so sorry for your news i myself have never been in this position but can remember it happening to my mum by my dad

you say you cant imagine him loving more than 1 person but not long ago you couldnt imagine him having sex with anyone else

i agree with you trying again but try and get some more information about what has exactly been going on because she must love him if she wants him to leave you and the children

stay strong

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Ronaldinhio · 07/12/2008 12:52

I'm so sorry about your husband putting you and your precious young family through this.

Please read that and repeat it out loud.

He has done this.

He owed you fidelity and love and didn't give you it because you were pregnant?!

Please understand that the OW didn't owe you anything but your husband did.

blinks · 07/12/2008 18:14

foxy- do you not think it would be worse if he had no feelings for her anyway? (not that i believe him)

if he could put your relationship under threat just for sex, what dies that say about him and his feelings for you?

crankycrane · 07/12/2008 18:22

so sorry for you
but i haave been were you are now
i was 36 weeks preg when i found ex h
having an affair
tbh that was the ultimate betrayal for me
i asked him to leave and never come back, he sees the children once a year or so
i am now remarried which is great
it has been hard at times in between but i have no regrets in telling ex h to leave

hugs to you

ToughDaddy · 07/12/2008 23:16

some good advice above and I feel unsure that I can add anything meaniful.

For sure your DH has acted selfishly and deceitfully; no question. but it is possible that it was the sex that he is after. My dad had/has lots of other women (likely a few other children) and never broke up with my mom. I think this was sad for her but I think she somehow normalised this, if only because she was scared of the alternative. In some ways times have changed but in other ways they haven't- suprisingly large number of men will still go for the sex and think afterwards (whatever they tell you).

Per Spellcheck above, thinking about what you want and getting some counselling is a good start. Think about what you want and don't feel pressured either way by others apart from your DCs. Also Spellcheck said something about not bringing it up every two seconds which sounds like good advice- you don't want to get into the victim mode with him as that would condemn the relationship with him. Instead you want to take charge and to some extent assert yourself even though you need to communicate with and listen to him even in these circumstances. I hope that you come out of this stronger. Best wishes.

gagarin · 07/12/2008 23:23

Doesn't matter whether it was "just sex" or not - on a practical level send him off to the GUM clinic asap.

Drive him down there and make sure he gets tested - chlamydia/HIV etc etc. If anything comes up you'll need to be tested too.

Even if he swears they used a condom......I wouldn't necessarily believe him and condoms aren't 100% protection against STDs.

Sorry to be so practical - but who knows where the other woman has been - and who with.

SantaKLAWs · 07/12/2008 23:31

Whether or not he is lying about the seriousness of the affair, whether or not you decide to forgive him or chuck him out, whether or not you find out later that he's still seeing her, whatever happens know this:

You have to be true to yourself. You CAN pick up the pieces and start again if need be. And you will.

I hope you find happiness whatever you decide to do ultimately.

Tortington · 07/12/2008 23:37

i couldnt stay with my husband if he saw the woman every day.

some serious life changes would have to be made, even if it meant losing thousands on a house, or walking out of a job and working at tesco.

i would rather eat bread and water and have no electricity and put on layers of clothing than have my husband work next to a woman he was fucking for 2 years

he kept the pictures though eh?

i know, your know he is full of shit. he is - and you know it.

respect yourself or no one else will.

remind him that if things don't pan out, that you wont be living the life of mother theresa, that you will be FUCKING too.
remind him that the end of your relationship will singal a time when you can and will have another mans penis inside you.

they kinda forget that, in all their drama - created around them - cos its all about them

Pan · 07/12/2008 23:57

Am posting here as you asked for male opinions.

Am really sorry this is happening first off.

and specifically on the "only sex" question off males? Not at all. Such things happen when there is an unfulfilled emotional 'need' ( same pattern as filling that need with fags/drink/drugs etc. - and people have emotional rels. with those things as well)) The longevity and the risks he has been to taking to further the affair indicates that to say it was only sex is utterly incredulous.
Afraid I agree with the others who say he is telling you only as much as he thinks he can get away with.
As for trust in the future? He's blown that one right out of the water. I wouldn't be trusting him one smidgy little bit.

Pan · 08/12/2008 00:02

sorry - asking about what they would have been talking about/texting about? Can't offer anything there, sorry. I have never been unfaithful to any female partner, so it would be all guess work. Can be pretty sure it would be tawdry, banal and not worth thinking about at all.

foxy1 · 08/12/2008 09:12

thanks again everyone. yesterday he said you can check my work phone to see if she has called if you want. i did but he could delete it anyway before i saw. i looked no phone calls and then looked at emails and saw one from her about a week ago saying that she would call him shortly. there were a few business emails. he asked me what i was doing and said i was checked emails and he got a bit funny about that as he thought he was letting me look at phone calls but that did not mean ui could go looking at emails. i immediately thought that he has something to hide - i.e.could be that he has been seeing her more recently and he made out that it finished earlier this year. he work phone has a code otherwise i would check but he could delete all emails from her. laying in bed last night just feeling numb and crying to sleep. can't believe he has done this such a huge lie.

OP posts:
crankycrane · 08/12/2008 09:39

hugs to you foxy1

blinks · 08/12/2008 09:44

marriage counselling.... ASAP

skidoodle · 08/12/2008 10:33

So it seems that he was still seeing her last week.

ReinDIORdroppings · 08/12/2008 12:00

Message withdrawn

Tortington · 08/12/2008 12:42

you are being taken for a ride.

i would take this time to get my affairs in order, see cab sort out finances whithout him knowing - just so you know where you are up to and where you would stand legally should it get to that point.

he is hugely taking the piss, he should be begging your forgiveness - arse

georgimama · 08/12/2008 12:55

The point he seems to be missing is that you shouldn't need to check his phone, with his permission or at all, because you should be able to trust him, and you can't.

Please please please get legal advice on your position, and check entitledto website. Knowledge is power, regardless of whether you want to save the marriage or not. You need to know where you stand.

Would echo those who say he doesn't sound the least bit sorry, only sorry he got found out.

Dropdeadfred · 08/12/2008 13:10

He really is a piece of work....doesn't seem the least bit sorry or regretful about how he has treated you and is now cherrypicking what he will and won;t allow you to check...this is despicable behaviour.

I knoww you don;t want to walk away but if he knows he has nothing to lose depsite his conduct then whre is the incentive for him to change?

HolyGuacamole · 08/12/2008 13:35

Jeez, is he really worth it? Sorry you're going thru this, don't let him ruin you as a person. If it was me, I don't think I could trust this guy ever again no matter how long we had been together.

Seems like he might let u check his phone since he can be careful with that and make sure it is 'clean' but he wasn't expecting you to check the email......hmmmmm.....

muckypups · 08/12/2008 14:01

My husband is now also leaving his company as is the OW. This however doesnt make me feel much better. If they are gonna cheat they are gonna cheat. Sad but true.