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Was I so wrong to ask him to move out?

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Geese999 · 30/10/2026 11:39

I asked to live separately, at least until both of our divorces were sorted including finance, and I've worked on my new relationship with my kids. But still see eachother, stay over etc and then figure it out as we go. He just went berserk and now doesn't ever want to see me again.

Long background sorry. I met E nearly 2 years ago while still in an increasingly unhappy marriage. E was also in unhappy marriage with 2nd wife. We connected, and before it got serious I decided to move out of my house into a flat, file for divorce and was going to live on my own but then E asked to move in with me and I felt obliged to say yes. I was infatuated at this point, as was he. He gave the impression he couldn't afford the rent so I offered to pay full rent. He moved in 2 weeks later and I paid not just the rent but pretty much all the bills including food.

We were very good together, I was in love and he was very loving. But there was a lot of misery all round because of our respective divorces. His wife was sick and his two adult kids decided to cut him off. One of my two adult kids is now bedridden with an illness and the other doesn't want anything to do with E and is just miserable.

I was increasingly unhappy about the rent/bills arrangement (given that my own divorce settlement was unclear) and broached the subject of splitting it equally after 12 months (by which time he could access his funds abroad), and he just said "if you want me to pay I will". I was quite deflated by this reply, because if it were me, I wouldve been embarrassed not to have raised it myself. He wasn't embarrassed at all. It was like that with all the financial stuff - if I specifically asked him to pay, he usually would, but he wouldn't think to offer to think indepedently whether the financial burden was fair. In his marriage his wife did all the money stuff, so he was just used to not thinking about it. In the end I set up Splitwise and he started paying 50% of what I put in, but was still bad at entering anything himself.

He doesn't have any friends outside of the hobby that we both share, and even those aren't close. He's not socially skilled, is a poor listener with no interest in banal subjects, and often looks at his phone in group situations. I have a few good friends and like to spend time with them, so either I bring him with me and have an awkward time or I leave him at home looking sad. I feel the pressure of being the one connected person in his life. He is quite set in his ways - he has bad oral hygiene but hasn't been to a dentist for 10 years and won't, despite my gentle encouragement, because he's had run ins with them in the past. He's critical of a lot of things I enjoy (movies, books, TV, comedy). My feelings for him changed, but he was still the best person to go on adventures with.

After 20 months I decided that I had to deal with my kids properly, which to me meant having a space where they can visit without E. I wanted to separate my finances from E and buy a house once my divorce was through, work on a new relationship with kids (and maybe XH) but still continue to date E and maybe work together on some of the issues I have (like money). I said not necessarily immediately, maybe once I buy a house.

He decided that he cannot contemplate living separately and having a relationship (especially as we are currently living together). He got super angry, shouted "I hate you, there's something wrong with you" repeatedly, said that I was wrong to prioritise my kids over him, then flipped to being nice, then turned hateful and criticised my attitude to my kids, shouted more, interrupted me, said he doesn't care what I say. The more I remained calm and tried to explain that I still wanted to be with him, the more furious he seemed to be. I don't cope with anger well and was terrified.

And now, he's gone for the weekend, left a note to say he never wants to see me again, I need to leave the flat before Monday and not attend any of the joint hobby activities.

Was it so unreasonable to ask to live separately at least until I sorted my divorce out? Was it such an outrageous ask that I deserved to be shouted at? My counsellor thought it wasn't but I don't know now.

OP posts:
Geese999 · 30/10/2026 16:55

Skybluecoat · 30/10/2026 15:52

So sorry, you aren’t the first woman to fall prey to a cocklodger when you’re feeling low, and you definitely won’t be the last.

Look at the bright side, you are now a free woman! You can do everything your way and look forward to a great future without this leech.

I have never heard of "cocklodger" before. Thank you all for this gift!

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gettingolderbutcooler · 30/10/2026 17:12

How weird that my post got deleted! Just questioning if this was a real issue as it’s so exaggeratingly awful and so obvious that he’s abusive!

Over40Overdating · 30/10/2026 17:18

This is great news - the rotten toothed, lying, emotionally stunted, tight-arsed weirdo has taken himself to the curb.

You are free! This is the best possible outcome. 60 years old and leaving notes like a school kid.

You were lonely and vulnerable and he used that to manipulate you. Let this be the expensive lesson that being alone is better than being with a user.

Happy freedom weekend!

whippersnapper55 · 30/10/2026 17:30

I think you're unreasonable to be in a relationship with him in the first place!

Mosaic80 · 30/10/2026 17:40

He sounds so awful! Huge red flags, I’d just feel massively grateful you can get out of this now without too much time/money invested and do whatever it takes to get free of him (and ignore his emotional blackmail).

Bananalanacake · 30/10/2026 17:55

You must be new here if you've just learnt the word cocklodger. Next time don't let a man move in so quickly. I never let any boyfriends move in with me, I owned my flat and I loved my own space. Well done for getting shot of him.

TheBlueKoala · 30/10/2026 21:13

What a relief to never feel his bad breath near you again 🤢. He's disgusting as fuck and once you are free and on your own you will feel so much lighter without this leeching abusive fucker.
@Geese999 You deserve sooo much better than this lowlife.

SylvanMoon · 30/10/2026 21:28

And now, he's gone for the weekend, left a note to say he never wants to see me again, I need to leave the flat before Monday and not attend any of the joint hobby activities.

I read your posts here with increasing horror. I can't fathom whatever you saw in this man-baby to remain with him for so long. Your DC are your priorities and he's certainly not worth any emotional or fiscal energy. Good luck and good riddance.

But I'm confused, is he demanding that YOU leave the flat by Monday and forbidding YOU from attending joint hobbies? Surely it should be you demanding that HE vacates the flat based on how he's acting. And if you want to continue participating in things you enjoy, do so. But be prepared to completely ignore him if he's also there.

JLou08 · 30/10/2026 21:41

If I was asked to leave my home by my partner I'd not be happy and I would think the relationship is over.
After what you've written I don't know why you didn't just end the relationship anyway. He cheated on and left his sick wife, no pride whatsoever taking a free ride from you, poor dental hygiene, shouting at you. He sounds absolutely awful.

Lololalalolo · 30/10/2026 21:42

I once met a guy I really liked but I couldn’t get past the badly rotten teeth. I know he smoked sometimes but it wasn’t just yellow they were clearly rotted. He was handsome and smelled nice and worked out, but didn’t have a good relationship with his family and I wonder if he was neglected at one point as a child and it left him with bad habits around teeth he hasn’t corrected. Either way I just couldn’t bear the thought of kissing him despite the fact I found him attractive beyond the teeth and I didn’t see him again. Such a shame. But kissing someone with bacteria in a mouth like can be harmful to your own oral health and it just grossed me out.

But teeth aside this relationship sounds chaotic from the start and doomed to failure. It’s best you split up completely.

Minasama · 30/10/2026 21:42

Erm - here is a man who expects you to provide him a home for free and gets unpleasantly angry when you decline to do so because you need to prioritise your children.

Why do you even need to ask OP?

He sounds awful - who doesn’t go to the dentist in the 21st century, not even when they have a new partner, not even when they mention it???

Even if you can’t do better than this, which you almost certainly can, would life not be better without such a person attempting to dictate the odds to you and not even paying his way?

The mind boggles. Women are too nice.

Nearly50omg · 30/10/2026 21:43

While he’s away for the weekend work out how much he owes you for all the unpaid rent and bills he’s leached off you and send him an invoice with it all broken down!!

Glowingup · 30/10/2026 22:05

Yeah, I can see the attraction:
Cheap sponger
Bad breath and shit oral hygiene
Shit social skills
Screams at you for making reasonable requests

Cool, you must be gutted that this gem is out of your life.

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This! With fucking bells on!

Wecanbeheroes26 · 30/10/2026 22:24

Ah. No man is more loving or attentive than a man who needs somewhere to live! So many red flags...

maxslice · 31/10/2026 02:16

Geese999 · 30/10/2026 11:39

I asked to live separately, at least until both of our divorces were sorted including finance, and I've worked on my new relationship with my kids. But still see eachother, stay over etc and then figure it out as we go. He just went berserk and now doesn't ever want to see me again.

Long background sorry. I met E nearly 2 years ago while still in an increasingly unhappy marriage. E was also in unhappy marriage with 2nd wife. We connected, and before it got serious I decided to move out of my house into a flat, file for divorce and was going to live on my own but then E asked to move in with me and I felt obliged to say yes. I was infatuated at this point, as was he. He gave the impression he couldn't afford the rent so I offered to pay full rent. He moved in 2 weeks later and I paid not just the rent but pretty much all the bills including food.

We were very good together, I was in love and he was very loving. But there was a lot of misery all round because of our respective divorces. His wife was sick and his two adult kids decided to cut him off. One of my two adult kids is now bedridden with an illness and the other doesn't want anything to do with E and is just miserable.

I was increasingly unhappy about the rent/bills arrangement (given that my own divorce settlement was unclear) and broached the subject of splitting it equally after 12 months (by which time he could access his funds abroad), and he just said "if you want me to pay I will". I was quite deflated by this reply, because if it were me, I wouldve been embarrassed not to have raised it myself. He wasn't embarrassed at all. It was like that with all the financial stuff - if I specifically asked him to pay, he usually would, but he wouldn't think to offer to think indepedently whether the financial burden was fair. In his marriage his wife did all the money stuff, so he was just used to not thinking about it. In the end I set up Splitwise and he started paying 50% of what I put in, but was still bad at entering anything himself.

He doesn't have any friends outside of the hobby that we both share, and even those aren't close. He's not socially skilled, is a poor listener with no interest in banal subjects, and often looks at his phone in group situations. I have a few good friends and like to spend time with them, so either I bring him with me and have an awkward time or I leave him at home looking sad. I feel the pressure of being the one connected person in his life. He is quite set in his ways - he has bad oral hygiene but hasn't been to a dentist for 10 years and won't, despite my gentle encouragement, because he's had run ins with them in the past. He's critical of a lot of things I enjoy (movies, books, TV, comedy). My feelings for him changed, but he was still the best person to go on adventures with.

After 20 months I decided that I had to deal with my kids properly, which to me meant having a space where they can visit without E. I wanted to separate my finances from E and buy a house once my divorce was through, work on a new relationship with kids (and maybe XH) but still continue to date E and maybe work together on some of the issues I have (like money). I said not necessarily immediately, maybe once I buy a house.

He decided that he cannot contemplate living separately and having a relationship (especially as we are currently living together). He got super angry, shouted "I hate you, there's something wrong with you" repeatedly, said that I was wrong to prioritise my kids over him, then flipped to being nice, then turned hateful and criticised my attitude to my kids, shouted more, interrupted me, said he doesn't care what I say. The more I remained calm and tried to explain that I still wanted to be with him, the more furious he seemed to be. I don't cope with anger well and was terrified.

And now, he's gone for the weekend, left a note to say he never wants to see me again, I need to leave the flat before Monday and not attend any of the joint hobby activities.

Was it so unreasonable to ask to live separately at least until I sorted my divorce out? Was it such an outrageous ask that I deserved to be shouted at? My counsellor thought it wasn't but I don't know now.

I cannot fathom what you see in this man. He seems perfectly vile in any number of ways. YOU are carrying most of the financial burden. If he truly never wants to see you again, count yourself lucky. Kick him out. Rebuild a relationship with your children. And find a decent man who doesn’t mooch, doesn’t pout, who has social skills, friends, who appreciates and adores you, and has GOOD HYGIENE.

Geese999 · 31/10/2026 07:36

Thank you everyone. I was attracted to him because he paid me attention the way no one had for 10 years, he's intelligent, and also he is brilliant at the hobby we share. I've always found intelligence and talent attractive. He is outwardly kind and soft spoken especially to people he doesn't know well. I've told a couple friends in common about how terrified I was by his anger and they can't believe it (although they do believe me). And all the other stuff about money, oral hygiene, social skills etc seemed like small things compared to being validated as a woman, until they mounted up.
I wasn't seeing anything straight by the end of a dead marriage with seemingly no future. I can see now how foolish I was, but I'm not sure I could've stopped it just by thinking about it at the time, because of where I was. I learnt my lesson and will never be involved with another man unless it's Keanu Reeves.
I'm really grateful to all of your comments, even the "are you kidding me" ones🙂

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YourJoyousDenimExpert · 31/10/2026 07:37

You can give notice on the flat if it is rented, without his agreement. The agency will then expect him to either cover it all or find a second tenant. You only need two months notice- so I’d do that and find somewhere else and make a fresh start - and take everything that is yours. And don’t look back. He cannot bar you from your hobby either!

AutumnOakTree · 31/10/2026 07:41

You were not I reasonable to ask him to move out.

You did nothing wrong in asking him to pay half of the bills etc

Yes, of course you prioritise your kids rather than a man you’ve known for a short time.

He love-bombed you because he needed somewhere (cheap) to live, and to fund him and doing the cooking, cleaning etc.

Take time to look after yourself and to move forward.

Wistfultearia · 31/10/2026 07:44

TBH, it almost reads like fiction! Hopefully writing it down and reading it back clarified that you have been taken for a ride. Wishing you all the best for the future.

Geese999 · 31/10/2026 07:45

YourJoyousDenimExpert · 31/10/2026 07:37

You can give notice on the flat if it is rented, without his agreement. The agency will then expect him to either cover it all or find a second tenant. You only need two months notice- so I’d do that and find somewhere else and make a fresh start - and take everything that is yours. And don’t look back. He cannot bar you from your hobby either!

It's a joint tenancy with 2m notice so we'd have to do that jointly and he would need to apply for sole tenancy. I will leave on Monday and stay with a friend while I look for a place and hope he pays the full rent the next 2m. I could insist on staying but I don't want to see him again either, and since I've bought 99% of the items in the flat, I don't want him to use any of my stuff anymore. So when he returns on Monday, hopefully there will no bed, sofa, chairs, towels, mugs, kettle, not even toilet rolls. I am taking some pleasure in this.

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aquashiv · 31/10/2026 08:05

He’s told you to go, so go. Shut the door, don't look back, and chalk it up to a rebound. Work on your self-esteem and your relationship with your family, and start dating when you’re ready. There are good men out there—he's an abusive cocklodger.

Pinadaqx2 · 31/10/2026 08:10

I dont think you and E should continue a relationship. I dont think you knew him well enough. Now you have got yourself together you have noticed things about him.

Sorry OP RUN for the hills!

Jessbow · 31/10/2026 08:24

I think in your position I would move out and have my name removed from the tennancy- if for no other reason that im then in control of where and when.
Fresh space to live too - your space , not ''our' old space