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Was I so wrong to ask him to move out?

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Geese999 · 30/10/2026 11:39

I asked to live separately, at least until both of our divorces were sorted including finance, and I've worked on my new relationship with my kids. But still see eachother, stay over etc and then figure it out as we go. He just went berserk and now doesn't ever want to see me again.

Long background sorry. I met E nearly 2 years ago while still in an increasingly unhappy marriage. E was also in unhappy marriage with 2nd wife. We connected, and before it got serious I decided to move out of my house into a flat, file for divorce and was going to live on my own but then E asked to move in with me and I felt obliged to say yes. I was infatuated at this point, as was he. He gave the impression he couldn't afford the rent so I offered to pay full rent. He moved in 2 weeks later and I paid not just the rent but pretty much all the bills including food.

We were very good together, I was in love and he was very loving. But there was a lot of misery all round because of our respective divorces. His wife was sick and his two adult kids decided to cut him off. One of my two adult kids is now bedridden with an illness and the other doesn't want anything to do with E and is just miserable.

I was increasingly unhappy about the rent/bills arrangement (given that my own divorce settlement was unclear) and broached the subject of splitting it equally after 12 months (by which time he could access his funds abroad), and he just said "if you want me to pay I will". I was quite deflated by this reply, because if it were me, I wouldve been embarrassed not to have raised it myself. He wasn't embarrassed at all. It was like that with all the financial stuff - if I specifically asked him to pay, he usually would, but he wouldn't think to offer to think indepedently whether the financial burden was fair. In his marriage his wife did all the money stuff, so he was just used to not thinking about it. In the end I set up Splitwise and he started paying 50% of what I put in, but was still bad at entering anything himself.

He doesn't have any friends outside of the hobby that we both share, and even those aren't close. He's not socially skilled, is a poor listener with no interest in banal subjects, and often looks at his phone in group situations. I have a few good friends and like to spend time with them, so either I bring him with me and have an awkward time or I leave him at home looking sad. I feel the pressure of being the one connected person in his life. He is quite set in his ways - he has bad oral hygiene but hasn't been to a dentist for 10 years and won't, despite my gentle encouragement, because he's had run ins with them in the past. He's critical of a lot of things I enjoy (movies, books, TV, comedy). My feelings for him changed, but he was still the best person to go on adventures with.

After 20 months I decided that I had to deal with my kids properly, which to me meant having a space where they can visit without E. I wanted to separate my finances from E and buy a house once my divorce was through, work on a new relationship with kids (and maybe XH) but still continue to date E and maybe work together on some of the issues I have (like money). I said not necessarily immediately, maybe once I buy a house.

He decided that he cannot contemplate living separately and having a relationship (especially as we are currently living together). He got super angry, shouted "I hate you, there's something wrong with you" repeatedly, said that I was wrong to prioritise my kids over him, then flipped to being nice, then turned hateful and criticised my attitude to my kids, shouted more, interrupted me, said he doesn't care what I say. The more I remained calm and tried to explain that I still wanted to be with him, the more furious he seemed to be. I don't cope with anger well and was terrified.

And now, he's gone for the weekend, left a note to say he never wants to see me again, I need to leave the flat before Monday and not attend any of the joint hobby activities.

Was it so unreasonable to ask to live separately at least until I sorted my divorce out? Was it such an outrageous ask that I deserved to be shouted at? My counsellor thought it wasn't but I don't know now.

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pinkyredrose · 30/10/2026 13:06

Christ he sounds fucking hideous! The bad oral hygiene alone would have me running for the hills!

Hoppinggreen · 30/10/2026 13:07

Geese999 · 30/10/2026 12:11

No it's a joint tenancy because we moved after 12m.

If you do leave you need to give 2 months notice as a minimum and then it will break The Tenancy so he will either have to leave himself or get a new one, which he may or may not pass affordability on on his own.
Thats the legal position but he sounds awful so get out as soon as you can and enjoy being single

Inheritancequestions · 30/10/2026 13:08

He's awful and you're well rid. Make sure you don't let him come bleating back to you.

DanaScullysLegoHair · 30/10/2026 13:09

Ugh. Just, ugh.

Don't let him come crawling back, full of promises and only saying these horrible things to you because he was 'hurt'.

See how he is laughing at you and twisting the knife by saying he could easily have paid for the flat. This is the real him, the manipulative freeloader. He'll get nasty once he realises you are serious and the gravy train has left the station.

Untangle yourself from him and the rental, ASAP. You'll be absolutely fine and much better off financially and emotionally.

I hope you have a wonderful relationship with your children and yourself going forward.

Vinvertebrate · 30/10/2026 13:10

So he has the mental age of a toddler and bad teeth? What a prince.

Tbh the "ner-ner-ner" -ness of the note saying he could pay the rent after all made me chuckle in a rather piying way. He's a douche - the end.

Absobeautely · 30/10/2026 13:12

If you want to reply to specific comments you should quote it, or tag the username.

Getting rid of such a lowlife is cause for celebration.

GrumblingGeek · 30/10/2026 13:13

get the tenancy into (preferably) his name and go your own way. asap.

hes like a twelve year old hormonal temper tantrumy child in a 60 year old body.

just be careful because he could get angry and strike you.
see if the place you rent the current flat from has anything else you like. dont provide him with a forwarding address. do that via the post office so he no longer gets your mail.

Geese999 · 30/10/2026 13:25

Absobeautely · 30/10/2026 13:12

If you want to reply to specific comments you should quote it, or tag the username.

Getting rid of such a lowlife is cause for celebration.

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thank you , i just worked that out!!

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PressedThistle · 30/10/2026 13:31

I honestly cannot believe anyone would be stupid enough to put up with a man like this. Did the fact that his second marriage was on the rocks not offer any clues as to how things might turn out?! 🤦

60degreecycle · 30/10/2026 13:31

He's an emotionally stunted freeloader with bad breath.

Listen to your therapist. I would ask her to help you to focus not on what he's doing or not doing, wants or does not want, and direct your energy into how he makes you feel.

Not when he's loveboming you and treating you like a princess. That's manipulation to hook you in, and then back in again and again after his bullshit behaviour.

Disentangle yourself from this loser, learn your lessons from the choices you have made, and concentrate on making reparations with whoever you need to, namely your DC.

speakball · 30/10/2026 13:33

he probably thinks this little tantrum will reset you back to being grateful. He hopes you won’t be able to be honest with yourself about how terrible he is.

TheLastSilverSaint · 30/10/2026 13:54

The only thing you’ve done that’s unreasonable is not to have ended the relationship a lot sooner.

He’s sponged off your for the duration of your relationship, your kids understandably dislike him, he doesn’t make an effort for you, he’s clingy and suffocating, he’s disparaging about your social and cultural interests (I’m guessing he’s an intellectual snob and possibly also the type who sneers at women’s interests), his teeth are gross and he reacted like an absolute nutjob when you broached the subject of needing time alone. So many red flags here.

Geese999 · 30/10/2026 14:25

PressedThistle · 30/10/2026 13:31

I honestly cannot believe anyone would be stupid enough to put up with a man like this. Did the fact that his second marriage was on the rocks not offer any clues as to how things might turn out?! 🤦

Yes I am an idiot. I was so starved of affection in my marriage that I didn't even realise I was so dead inside. He showed up and showered me with attention, in a way I'd never experienced before. I was hooked on it like a drug. I still don't regret leaving my marriage, that was the one positive outcome of his involvement.

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Toffeepieandcream · 30/10/2026 14:31

Hi, in response to your last message, NO, you are not an idiot! It's natural that you got sucked in by E because you craved that new affection. I read your original post with dread and am so glad you haven't bought a house together. You are absolutely right to tell him to move out, he sounds emotionally abusive and immature in the extreme. Your children should always come first (in my opinion) before a partner and he sounds like a man child. Good luck with the new phased in your life - looking after you and your relationship with your children xx

speakball · 30/10/2026 14:34

Yes I am an idiot. I was so starved of affection in my marriage that I didn't even realise I was so dead inside.

oh honey, you and every other human on earth, you are not on your own with that mistake. I hope you never feel so cold again.

ginasevern · 30/10/2026 14:45

On top of the fact that he's nothing but a twice married cocklodger with bad teeth and a foul temper, you'd probably have ended up as his carer. Good job the trash took itself out. You've had a lucky escape OP.

TempleHill · 30/10/2026 14:57

Geese999 · 30/10/2026 12:11

No it's a joint tenancy because we moved after 12m.

Since it is a joint tenancy, can you move out, give notice as you both are joint tenants.

Agree with other MN on working on yourself first before jumping into another relationship.

fizzywidget · 30/10/2026 15:42

irrespective of what an unappealing prospect this man is, you can ask someone to move out for ANY REASON. If you don’t want to live with someone, that’s reason enough. There is no right or wrong. He may then decide he doesn’t want to continue the relationship, as is his right, but tbh that sounds like the least of your problems.

Skybluecoat · 30/10/2026 15:52

So sorry, you aren’t the first woman to fall prey to a cocklodger when you’re feeling low, and you definitely won’t be the last.

Look at the bright side, you are now a free woman! You can do everything your way and look forward to a great future without this leech.

FinallyHere · 30/10/2026 15:54

Sorry. No one falls in love more quickly than a man who needs somewhere to stay. Ideally as in this case, without having to pay or make any contribution.

timbitstimbytes · 30/10/2026 16:00

God, look at the trail of destruction he's caused between his ex-wife, his children and now you. He's bad news, it would seem like his anti-social qualities are being used to separate you from your friends too.

You need to put your own welfare and your kids first now and get space away from him because he's not getting what he wants now (a free place to live) and he's going to turn maniplulative. Please don't let him weaponise the threat of suicide this man is no longer your responsibility.

WestwardHo1 · 30/10/2026 16:32

He sounds fucking appalling.

Breathe a sigh of relief he's gone, and block him. Spend a long time on your own, being single and free. Find your strengths. No one needs a man like that in their life.

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Geese999 · 30/10/2026 16:53

Toffeepieandcream · 30/10/2026 14:31

Hi, in response to your last message, NO, you are not an idiot! It's natural that you got sucked in by E because you craved that new affection. I read your original post with dread and am so glad you haven't bought a house together. You are absolutely right to tell him to move out, he sounds emotionally abusive and immature in the extreme. Your children should always come first (in my opinion) before a partner and he sounds like a man child. Good luck with the new phased in your life - looking after you and your relationship with your children xx

Thank you. All the time he screamed at me, some part of me was thinking it was ridiculous but another part just wanted to make him feel better. Probably the result of having an angry alcoholic father, to whom E turned out to be uncannily similar. I do feel so foolish.

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Geese999 · 30/10/2026 16:54

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God I wish it was fictional.

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