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Husband says I’ve ‘forgotten how to be a wife’ — but I feel like I’m carrying everything

241 replies

LJJWER · 27/08/2026 13:07

I really need some outside perspective because I feel completely worn down and I'm starting to question myself.
My husband and I have been together for years and we have three children. I don't know whether I'm looking for advice, reassurance, or to hear from people who've experienced something similar, but I feel like I can't keep living in this cycle.
A lot of this started/changed after we moved back from Canada during Covid. The decision to leave Canada was his. He didn't want the vaccine and there were changes to the rules around flying, so he decided we needed to come back to the UK with about three weeks' notice. He made lots of promises about how things would work here — he had a job lined up, we'd do this and that, we'd eventually buy a home once our Canadian home sold, etc. None of that really happened.
He refused some work because the wages weren't good enough, and being out of work meant we ended up using money from the sale of our Canadian home that was supposed to be our deposit. We subsequently lost the opportunity to buy a house we were renting that would have suited us, and we've ended up in a small terraced house that is now too small for our family.
He works part-time/ad hoc and doesn't contribute much financially. He says his ADHD makes full-time employment difficult and has only recently agreed to go through ADHD titration. He also has a drug problem, and money is spent on drugs despite him complaining that he doesn't have nice clothes, doesn't have enough money, etc. He won't engage with counselling for his mental health either.
There is also a claim relating to hearing loss from his time in the forces, and he talks about receiving the money and then leaving to "sort himself out." He's said many times that he needs to leave, that he'd rather be on his own in a house with a dog, etc. But then he comes back and everything seems to reset until the next explosion.
That's what I'm struggling with most: the cycle.
He gets frustrated, unloads everything onto me, calls me names, shouts, says he wants to leave, sometimes leaves the house in a rage, then comes back and becomes withdrawn/cold. Nothing gets resolved. Eventually things go back to normal and then it happens again.
Yesterday was particularly bad.
He told me that since we had children I've "just turned into a mam" and forgotten how to be a wife. He said he'd rather be on his own with a dog. He said he can't be a parent while he feels the way he does. When I asked him to stop discussing traumatic and negative things in front of our 8-year-old, he said something along the lines of "you can have this conversation to my coffin." When I asked him to lower his voice, he told me to keep away from him.
Then, as he was leaving the house in a rage, our 5-year-old appeared and he called him a "naughty little cunt."
And then he leaves/returns and it's almost as though I'm supposed to be the one who has done something wrong. He becomes cold and withdrawn and I find myself waiting for the next outburst.
The other huge issue is what he calls "intimacy." By intimacy, he means sex.
He believes the lack of sex is the main problem in our relationship and says I've never really wanted sex throughout our relationship. That simply isn't true. There have been periods when I absolutely did want him and enjoyed our sex life.
But how am I supposed to feel sexually attracted when I feel completely exhausted and resentful?
I'm financially supporting the family. I'm managing the house. I'm raising three children. I'm dealing with his inconsistent employment, his drug use, his moods and the consequences of decisions we've made. He doesn't regularly cook for me. He rarely does significant housework. He'll complain that he's hungry but won't cook for himself, let alone for the family. He does feed the children when he's responsible for them, but it's generally snacks, plain pasta, etc., and then he'll criticise me for things like giving them cereal.
I feel like I'm carrying everything and then being criticised by someone who isn't carrying the same load.
Even physical affection has become difficult. A kiss or cuddle doesn't feel like it can just be affection because it often turns into sexual touching or him dry humping me. So I avoid some affection because I know it will come with an expectation of sex.
He seems to think that because we're married, my lack of desire is something I should simply overcome because he needs sex to feel better.
But I feel like my body is reacting to the relationship I'm actually living in.
I'm angry. I'm resentful. I'm exhausted. And honestly, I feel like he's making me hate him.
I want him to hear my side without becoming angry or interrupting me. I've tried talking, but he'll walk away, say I'm "twittering on" or tell me he can't handle it. Yet I'm expected to sit and listen while he unloads all of his frustrations, and the children often hear it too.
I've even written everything down before so he could read it without interrupting me. He didn't respond at all.
I don't want to spend the rest of my life waiting for the next time he decides he's unhappy and wants to leave.
At the same time, I know he has ADHD, mental-health difficulties and a drug problem, and I don't want to completely dismiss the fact that he is struggling. I have supported him through so much.
But I'm starting to wonder where my responsibility ends.
Am I wrong to feel that the lack of intimacy is a consequence of everything that is happening rather than the cause?
Has anyone experienced this kind of cycle where one partner repeatedly says they want to leave, unloads all their anger, then comes back and acts as though nothing happened?
How do you deal with someone who wants you to hear everything they feel but becomes angry when you try to explain how their behaviour is affecting you?
And at what point do you stop trying to fix things and start accepting that the relationship itself is making you unhappy?
I'm not looking for people to simply tell me to leave. I genuinely want to hear from people who have been through something similar and what happened in the end, particularly where ADHD, addiction/substance use and resentment around sex were involved.

OP posts:
Maray1967 · 27/08/2026 17:27

LJJWER · 27/08/2026 13:15

I do. I have support. I have been reluctant to share in full what is going on with my parents but they aren't blind.

The children are who I worry about the most.

As they should be. Look at it this way. What child can possibly benefit from having a parent who is an anti - vaxxer but a drug user (????) and swears at them?

I would NEVER have sex with someone sho swears at my child and uses drugs. Never. You need to look as objectively as you can at this situation - because it is terrible. You need to get your DC and yourself away from him.

I don’t tolerate pathetic whining self-pitying men. If he was my H I would have bollocked the living daylights out of him by now. I would have made it very clear when he first started whining and being a sex pest what needed to change, given him a short time to do it, and then left when he failed to change.
Tell your family and ask for help.

Thrump · 27/08/2026 17:31

The first step is to start telling people. You've done well to come here, even though this probably isn't much fun to hear all this. But on some level you already knew it was bad, which is why you've covered it up.

Start talking to your parents. Ring a friend. If you have a sister, this is the sort of thing I want my sister to tell me. I'd only want to help her and the kids.

You aren't as alone as you feel right now. People can help you, once they know you need help. Everyone needs help sometimes.

https://womensaid.org.uk/information-support/the-survivors-handbook/im-not-sure-if-my-relationship-is-healthy/

I'm not sure if my relationship is healthy - Women’s Aid

Not sure if your relationship is healthy? The Survivor’s Handbook provides practical support and information for women experiencing domestic abuse.

https://womensaid.org.uk/information-support/the-survivors-handbook/im-not-sure-if-my-relationship-is-healthy/

Anendlessseriesofunfortunateevents · 27/08/2026 17:42

You said you are starting to wonder where your responsibility for him ends?

I'd say calling your 5 year old "a naughty little cunt" might be a good place to draw a line in the sand seeing as mentioning traumatic things in front of the 8 year old hasnt done it, having the kids grow up in the same house as a drug user hasnt done it, skipping his financial responsbilities as a father and husband hasnt done it, and the sexually coercive behaviour towards you hasnt done it.

Oh and by the by, i have adhd and its no reason to subject your kids to his shitshow.

LannieDuck · 27/08/2026 17:54

LJJWER · 27/08/2026 13:27

I am not saying I don't want to leave. My intention here is to speak to other women that have experienced similar circumstances. I have been with this person for 20 years. Since I was 17 years old. One might take the time to gather some information to rebuild a little confidence step into the unknown.

For a community of women in similar circumstances, try this Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/410364763121879/

Wadsworthy · 27/08/2026 17:54

I'm not looking for people to simply tell me to leave. I genuinely want to hear from people who have been through something similar and what happened in the end, particularly where ADHD, addiction/substance use and resentment around sex were involved.

Honestly, I don't think there's much you can do about him, except leave & divorce him (or make him leave).

Sometimes, a marriage is not salvageable, no matter what good will & effort one spouse might put into it. What you describe is that you're living in an abusive situation (as are your DC).

You've tried to support & help him. But if he won't help himself, you can't change him.

You can divorce this man with your head held high: he's an abusive, sexist, drug addict. It's not your job to fix him, it really isn't.

The AlAnon principles might help

You didn't Cause it.
You can't Change him.
You can't Cure it.

AlAnon is an organisation for spouses & families of addicts - you might find it a useful organisation for support for YOU Flowers

Piknik · 27/08/2026 17:54

He is an abusive drug addict
Frankly, you don't stand a chance.

If you stay, he will suck the life and joy out of you, and then the children. He will systematically crush everyone until they feel as bad as he does and then, when there is nowhere left to turn, he will blame you all for his collapse. Whilst he is doing this, you will all be walking on eggshells waiting for the next explosion and as your DC get older, they will start to questions your loyalty and how you are choosing this life for them.

Not only that, he will financially ruin you.

So my advice, and I am speaking as loudly as I can and from experience is LEAVE WHILST YOU STILL HAVE PARENTS. I cannot express the importance of having support and somewhere to go for those first few weeks and how much the stability of grandparents will help your DC get through it.

He is a a poisonous toad and eventually your social life will shrink because of him. If - heaven forbid - you were to then lose your parents, you will be completely isolated and things become so much harder.

So again, for the people in the back, LEAVE WHILST YOU STILL HAVE PARENTS.

malware · 27/08/2026 17:54

Your priorities are wrong. You need to do what is best for your children.

That means moving away from their Dad who unfortunately is not able to be responsive to their needs in any way and is creating a chaotic environment for them in their formative years.

They need order, security and love from consistent adults who understand and prioritise their needs socially and emotionally. Your husband offers none of this and if you do not leave, this environment will eventually have a very negative effect on their life chances.

GreyBeeplus3 · 27/08/2026 17:55

@LJJWER
Honestly, I've never thankfully ever had the problem you do now
But I don't think it's ever going to change
Just get worse
So before it gets possibly physical
Leave him because
He's so drug-addled, twisted and bitter, you'll always be his 'whipping boy' and will never do right no matter how hard you try
And you deserve so much better
Don't You??

CharlieEffie · 27/08/2026 17:57

I know that you said you dont want people to tell you to leave but that is exactly what you have to do. He is calling your kids names, traumatising them with the things there hearing, emotionally and verbally abusing you and bringing absolutely nothing to the table. You are already a single parent just with a 4th problem child ! Next time he leaves. Change the doors and tell him to stay gone

Mapletree1985 · 27/08/2026 18:01

Before he can expect you to remember how to be a wife, he has to remember how to be a husband.

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 27/08/2026 18:06

Feelingshotshotshot · 27/08/2026 17:24

I genuinely want to hear from people who have been through something similar and what happened in the end, particularly where ADHD, addiction/substance use and resentment around sex were involved.

I've been there. I'm not writing it on a public forum though. All I can say is that it ended in divorce, when I finally realised that I was worth more than this and that you only get one life.

Same.

Reading the OP was quite triggering.

There's only one way to end this, and the sooner you do it the better. That's not to say it's easy, but once it's done you'll regret every minute you stayed.

clymsygoat · 27/08/2026 18:09

I'm sorry @LJJWER - this thread must be really hard to read and I know these probably weren't the responses you were looking for. I know that your situation feels impossible and that actually, it is easier to stagger on in the misery than throw a hand grenade into your life.

Please just know that there is nothing you can do that will fix him, just as there is nothing you did to make him this way. Your choice now is how long you want to continue living this way.

Please tell your family and get their support. X.

whippersnapper55 · 27/08/2026 18:15

UniquePearlPanda · 27/08/2026 13:46

He sounds nearly identical to my ex husband!
to give you the brief version….
he didn’t really contribute to household finance and spend a lot of what did come in on cannabis.
constantly told me how much he hated me how unhappy he was how he would have a better life on his own. Didn’t care if the kids heard him ranting and raving…it was like he wanted everyone else to feel as bad as he did. But then when he felt fine again all was forgotten as if it had never happened! (Until the next time)
sex life was exactly the same, how can you feel any desire or intimacy for someone who acts like that? Don’t let him guilt trip you. I hung on for a long time because I did care about him, we’d been together a long time and I thought it was better for the kids ……
things just escalated to the point where he would turn his rage on the house and smash things up. (Things that I’d paid for to create a nice home) It never got any better and even when I eventually managed to get him to leave it was a nightmare!
In hindsight I stayed with him 14 years too long, even my kids think so which is really sad.
Dont let a misguided sense of responsibility to him or guilt on breaking up a family rob you of years that could be happy and calm and so much less stressful. 💝

This is very good advice from someone with lived experience. I'm sorry you went through this too @UniquePearlPanda💐

BippidyBoppety · 27/08/2026 18:17

Yesiamstressedactually · 27/08/2026 14:32

Also, "forgotten how to be a wife" - how is he being a husband??
Not working
Not contributing financially
Threatening to leave
Leaving
Verbally abusing his wife and children
Taking drugs
Demanding sex
And more

I don't see any love, honour and cherishing going on here at all.

Edited

All of the above from me, too -

OP - do you like this man? Do you - be honest - think he likes you? The rest is just noise after the fact, no amount of counselling, LTB, do this / do that applies if there isn't affection at the core.

You don't leave, by the way. He does. He doesn't want this life then he packs up and moves out. He can have his grubby flat and flea ridden dog and you and your kids get to live your best lives without this drudge of a man dragging you down. (Be prepared to take on the dog when he can't cope).

Yellowchair1 · 27/08/2026 18:31

I've dealt with some of what you describe and I was quite clear that it wasn't the environment I wanted my DC to grow up in. I knew I could financially (and emotionally) support me and DD and she would have a better life if I left him. That was 8 years ago and im 100% happy with the decision. It will feel worse at first - he will probably lash out and get very angry at you, but keep focusing on the children and the life you want to give them

IButtleSir · 27/08/2026 18:32

You need to get this vile creature away from your children immediately.

Tunnocks34 · 27/08/2026 18:33

If my husband called my son a cunt he’d have never stepped foot in my house again.

DiscoElysia · 27/08/2026 18:44

I don't have experience of this sort of marriage. However, in my professional role I exclusively support people in their sixties and older. Many of the women I work with have had marriages, or are still in marriages, with abusive men. Many of the women I work with have been married to, or continue to be married to, men who threaten to leave, treat sex as a right, and force them to walk on eggshells around their explosive tempers. As such I can give you a bit of a possible window into the future.

The women who are no longer married to these men seem to experience a range of emotions about it. Some are relieved to have managed to get away but still experience traumatic flashbacks and regrets that can be hard to cope with and move on from even decades later. Others are a lot more at peace with the past now. Unsurprisngly, lot of that depends on how long they remained in the situation, how much they and / or their children suffered, whether they came out of the marriage with financial resources, whether they have good support from family and friends, and how far they were able to build a life they actually liked after the marriage ended. A huge amount often depends on the state of their relationships with their now-adult children (which are sometimes very wonderful, but can also be... not wonderful. Some women's kids blame them for staying with their dads too long and putting them in the path of abuse; others blame their mums for leaving their dads; others are struggling with so many problems of their own that they don't have the emotional or practical capacity for a good parental relationship. The whole range).

Occasionally I meet a woman who tells me she misses her ex-husband, despite the abuse, and thinks she is lonelier without him (and indeed some women didn't leave but were the ones who were left). These situations are complicated and of course it is possible to be deeply in love with and emotionally dependent on someone who treats you awfully.

The women who are still married to these men occasionally say it has gotten better over time (because people can sometimes change for the better I suppose - although I often suspect it is more that they have changed and accepted that this is their life. Perhaps I'm being too cynical). Usually it hasn't changed for the better and they are stuck in the same cycle of abuse, but now with the added difficulty that they don't have so much time left to build a different life (although I always emphasise that there is hope as long as there is life and it's never too late for something different). Sometimes they are so worn down by it all and have had their self-esteem so crushed that they can't imagine a different life.

Many women end up as carers for their husbands and therefore feel they can't leave now because they're needed (but hey, I've learned that even men in their eighties with dementia or who are housebound can still hit and rape their wives. I hadn't really expected that for some naive reason). Some end up with the reverse: their own physical or mental health has deteriorated and now they are the ones who need care, so they're trapped relying on the very man who has abused them to provide them with support. Sometimes the man who abused them ends up making decisions on their behalf about carers and care homes and money. Sometimes the man who has abused them gets very angry and depressed and resentful that their wife with dementia or parkinson's or crippling anxiety etc can no longer do all the cooking and cleaning or provide the sex they're used to.

To be clear: having mental health problems or ADHD or addiction issues or a bad temper does not make someone a rubbish partner or parent or a bad person. Of course it doesn't. I bloody hope not as I have experienced two out of the four myself. It is not an excuse for being abusive however and it is not a trump card that means you get to insist on what you want from other people. Sometimes a marriage can weather a storm. Sometimes a marriage drowns in a storm and takes everyone down to the bottom with it. Your life matters, your kids' lives matter, and you don't have to put up with this shit forever.

CinnamonJellyBeans · 27/08/2026 18:48

Please put your children first. Get rid of this man and salvage what is left of their childhood.

LJJWER · 27/08/2026 18:56

BippidyBoppety · 27/08/2026 18:17

All of the above from me, too -

OP - do you like this man? Do you - be honest - think he likes you? The rest is just noise after the fact, no amount of counselling, LTB, do this / do that applies if there isn't affection at the core.

You don't leave, by the way. He does. He doesn't want this life then he packs up and moves out. He can have his grubby flat and flea ridden dog and you and your kids get to live your best lives without this drudge of a man dragging you down. (Be prepared to take on the dog when he can't cope).

I see glimmers of the person I love....but lately its all doom and gloom and negativity. He can't be happy for me and my accomplishments. He sees them as commitments that affect his life. (I am in a local musical...chose to do it to support my mental health as its something that I love and somewhere I am not a mam!) He even resents me going out with my mum because he is miserable...i think he thinks I should be too

OP posts:
OldrNWisr · 27/08/2026 18:58

He’s not just miserable, he’s nasty and abusive. You don’t have to accept that.

clymsygoat · 27/08/2026 19:08

LJJWER · 27/08/2026 18:56

I see glimmers of the person I love....but lately its all doom and gloom and negativity. He can't be happy for me and my accomplishments. He sees them as commitments that affect his life. (I am in a local musical...chose to do it to support my mental health as its something that I love and somewhere I am not a mam!) He even resents me going out with my mum because he is miserable...i think he thinks I should be too

It pains me to say this, but how can you feel any love at all for a man who called your 5 year old child a cunt.

That should have killed any love you had for him stone dead. If that is not the line in the sand, what is?

moderate · 27/08/2026 19:13

LJJWER · 27/08/2026 18:56

I see glimmers of the person I love....but lately its all doom and gloom and negativity. He can't be happy for me and my accomplishments. He sees them as commitments that affect his life. (I am in a local musical...chose to do it to support my mental health as its something that I love and somewhere I am not a mam!) He even resents me going out with my mum because he is miserable...i think he thinks I should be too

Someone who wants you to be as miserable as they are does NOT love you.

discosofa · 27/08/2026 20:09

DiscoElysia · 27/08/2026 18:44

I don't have experience of this sort of marriage. However, in my professional role I exclusively support people in their sixties and older. Many of the women I work with have had marriages, or are still in marriages, with abusive men. Many of the women I work with have been married to, or continue to be married to, men who threaten to leave, treat sex as a right, and force them to walk on eggshells around their explosive tempers. As such I can give you a bit of a possible window into the future.

The women who are no longer married to these men seem to experience a range of emotions about it. Some are relieved to have managed to get away but still experience traumatic flashbacks and regrets that can be hard to cope with and move on from even decades later. Others are a lot more at peace with the past now. Unsurprisngly, lot of that depends on how long they remained in the situation, how much they and / or their children suffered, whether they came out of the marriage with financial resources, whether they have good support from family and friends, and how far they were able to build a life they actually liked after the marriage ended. A huge amount often depends on the state of their relationships with their now-adult children (which are sometimes very wonderful, but can also be... not wonderful. Some women's kids blame them for staying with their dads too long and putting them in the path of abuse; others blame their mums for leaving their dads; others are struggling with so many problems of their own that they don't have the emotional or practical capacity for a good parental relationship. The whole range).

Occasionally I meet a woman who tells me she misses her ex-husband, despite the abuse, and thinks she is lonelier without him (and indeed some women didn't leave but were the ones who were left). These situations are complicated and of course it is possible to be deeply in love with and emotionally dependent on someone who treats you awfully.

The women who are still married to these men occasionally say it has gotten better over time (because people can sometimes change for the better I suppose - although I often suspect it is more that they have changed and accepted that this is their life. Perhaps I'm being too cynical). Usually it hasn't changed for the better and they are stuck in the same cycle of abuse, but now with the added difficulty that they don't have so much time left to build a different life (although I always emphasise that there is hope as long as there is life and it's never too late for something different). Sometimes they are so worn down by it all and have had their self-esteem so crushed that they can't imagine a different life.

Many women end up as carers for their husbands and therefore feel they can't leave now because they're needed (but hey, I've learned that even men in their eighties with dementia or who are housebound can still hit and rape their wives. I hadn't really expected that for some naive reason). Some end up with the reverse: their own physical or mental health has deteriorated and now they are the ones who need care, so they're trapped relying on the very man who has abused them to provide them with support. Sometimes the man who abused them ends up making decisions on their behalf about carers and care homes and money. Sometimes the man who has abused them gets very angry and depressed and resentful that their wife with dementia or parkinson's or crippling anxiety etc can no longer do all the cooking and cleaning or provide the sex they're used to.

To be clear: having mental health problems or ADHD or addiction issues or a bad temper does not make someone a rubbish partner or parent or a bad person. Of course it doesn't. I bloody hope not as I have experienced two out of the four myself. It is not an excuse for being abusive however and it is not a trump card that means you get to insist on what you want from other people. Sometimes a marriage can weather a storm. Sometimes a marriage drowns in a storm and takes everyone down to the bottom with it. Your life matters, your kids' lives matter, and you don't have to put up with this shit forever.

Edited

I found this really interesting, particularly the part about how it has affected relationships with adult DC. Thank you for posting. My father was awful, my mother didn't leave until I was in my late teens and only left because she met someone else (so although she likes to deny it, really left for herself, and not to protect her kids from the abuse). I am both angry at her for not leaving sooner, when clearly leaving was possible, and also struggling with all the problems I've been left with - physical and mental - and she doesn't seem able to grasp it at all. If she could, she'd still be using me as an emotional support human. So really I've been left with no parents at all.

And my mother just doesn't get it.

Piknik · 27/08/2026 21:35

Ok this is a bit of a weird way of explaining it, but bare with me.

About those glimmers....

Imagine you and DH were some rare creatures on a David Attenborough Documentary (I said it was weird). Sir David A would explain to the audience how this toxic toad-thing emits occasional 'glimmers' in order to convince his mate to stay so that he doesn't wither and starve to death. He would tell us how the female would thrive if she left, but because the toxic toad has developed this knack for showing just enough light when he senses abandonment, she stays. In the end, the toxic toad stays fed, fat and well whilst the female companion is run ragged trying to attend to his needs because she wants to see the glimmers. Eventually the glimmers stop coming, but the female is exhausted and a husk of her former self so she lives out her days with the toxic-toad-thing.

Fuck the glimmers. They are not enough