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Husband dropped a bombshell

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Sadandneedahug · 31/05/2026 21:38

Hi all. I need a hug and a handhold and any advice. I’ve been on MN for years but I’ve name changed for this.

Apologies if this ends up being really long, I’ll try to include everything.

In February of this year, my husband of 15 years told me we needed to work on things as he was feeling unhappy. We had a chat, both made a list of things we needed to do, and the lists were very similar. We were doing really well for a couple of weeks but then he had to go abroad for 3 weeks for work and when he came back he was quite poorly for a couple of weeks.

When he recovered (so about a month ago), told me he still wasn’t happy and wanted to leave.

We have two children aged 11 & 10.

He’s told me he hasn’t been happy for some time, and that he feels like we’ve grown apart. Says we live like co-parents and friends rather than a married couple. He says he doesn’t love me anymore, but still cares about me and will always love me as the kids mother.

He says he has tried for years to make an effort. However in my mind I’ve not seen this. We’ve had good times, great holidays and I think we’ve been happy. He’s been quiet and withdrawn over the last year - I asked if he was ok, and he always replied with ‘I’m fine’ or ‘stressed with work’. He has a stressful job so I believed him. I even said to him last year that I was worried I was losing him. He said absolutely not. After our chat in February this year, I asked if we were going to be ok - answer was yes. He acknowledged it would take hard work but would try his best.

I was quite poorly for 12-18 months in 2024/25 and the best I could do was to the bare minimum every day and no more. Due to this our sex life has dwindled. I also struggled when the kids were young with post natal depression, struggled with being a stay at home mum even though that’s what I wanted. I did end up going to work for a couple of days a week just to feel like me again.

Our house needs a fair bit of work and he says that gets him down. It frustrates me as well but I try to not nag him about it as I know how busy and stressed he is/was. We made a list of things that needed done and who would do them to break it down into easier chunks.

He wants to still be around, have a key for the house and come and go whenever if I’m ok with that. He’ll still help with kids, activities etc, DIY around the house and basically to let him know whenever I need some help. If I want him around to help with breakfasts/dinners/school runs he says he’ll do it. He also says we can still go on family holidays too.

He says he feels really guilty for doing this, but is feeling depressed, miserable, not himself and would rather put everyone through the pain now rather than waiting for years to come and do it then. He says doing it now will make our relationship better and his relationship with the kids better. He says he doesn’t hate me.

He is a fantastic dad.

I’m confused. Before he went on his work trip he told me he loved me. Loads of messages towards the end of last year saying he loved me. We had plans to move house in a few years, in March we booked a holiday for December. We had plans to start a new business together and the wheels were in motion for that - it’s easy enough to stop it though. It was all long term stuff.

I admit I’ve gotten pretty comfortable and just sailing through life, getting things done, going to work etc. Yes we probably have neglected each other. We’ve never had much alone time as we don’t have any childcare options. I have exploded at times with the lack of help around the house - cleaning, cooking, household chores etc. It got better for a week or so after each explosion and then went back to ‘normal’. However this past month I’ve never had so much help! He’s taking the bins out, making dinners, emptying the dishwasher, making the kids packed lunches. I don’t know if that’s just guilt. He’s also just redecorated our youngests bedroom - something he’s been saying he’d do since last year.

I know he’s had an individual counselling session. With all he has going on at work and at home she told him she’s surprised he hasn’t had a nervous breakdown. I’ve been seeing a solution based hypnotherapist to help with my confidence levels as I was struggling before all of this happened. I was beginning to get to a good place until this happened.

He has agreed to go to couples counselling to talk it through as we keep going over the same things and end up arguing. He says it won’t change anything but then says he’ll be honest and see what the counsellor says. I have no experience with this so I’m a bit worried about what will happen at these sessions. Do I say all of this to a counsellor?

I’m not blameless. I’m not trying to make excuses with my health problems and my issues when the kids were tiny. I could’ve given him more attention. I should’ve pushed it when he went quiet last year but I left him at his short answers.

I’ve asked him if there’s someone else, and he says no. I do believe him.

Thank you if anyone has read all of this, sorry it’s so long. I don’t even know what I’m asking for. I don’t want to split up. I still love him. I feel like a failure and I’m so embarrassed. I feel like an idiot. I cry every day. He says I need to talk to someone rather than keep torturing myself about it on my own. I’ve told very few people because of feeling like such a failure. I can’t even face his parents (who are furious with him) and they’re lovely people. I just don’t know how I can get othrough this. I can’t imagine my life without him - I feel like my whole future has gone.

OP posts:
ourSusie · 01/06/2026 12:16

clapyourhandsifyourworkingtoohard · 31/05/2026 22:34

I'm going to go against the general view and say I don't think there's someone else.

Our friends are going through similar except it was her who called time on thrir marriage. Nobody saw it coming, not her husband, their adult dc, wider family or friends.

Her reasoning was that she wants her time, they've been together since teens, so 25+ years.

Nobody else, just grown apart and ready to start a new chapter.

but as you say, this is a woman, very unusual for a mother to leave her children and take up with another man, this situation is completely removed from your anecdotal ‘evidence’

SergeantWrinkles · 01/06/2026 12:18

He wants to come and go as he pleases? I think fucking not! I notice everything you’ve said focuses on him: HIS stress, HIS needs, HIS unhappiness. Where are you in this. I think it speaks volumes that you are only a reflection in this life - and if he’s such a fantastic father, why are you having to ‘nag’ (aka tell him that jobs need doing 100 times). Or get annoyed at his lack of participation around the house. It sounds like he’s good at doing fun stuff and shit about proactively tackling anything else and then blaming you for having had enough of carrying the mental load. The fact that you’ve even considered him having a key and coming and going as he pleases, tells me you’ve been accepting crumbs for far too long.

xino · 01/06/2026 12:20

He has someone else. If not physically then emotionally. Try and accept this then get a good lawyer. A good one is worth the money. Sending you a hug.

littlemousebigcheese · 01/06/2026 12:20

He’s got another woman but no balls to say it. Clean break. It’s horrible for you but you deserve better and it’s not fair that he gets to come and go as he pleases so stop that idea immediately!

ourSusie · 01/06/2026 12:23

bumptybum · 31/05/2026 22:57

How is he a cunt. He is doing what everyone says a person should do. Leave before they have an affair. Leave when they know they are unhappy.

he said the key thing would be on her terms. He basically wants to still support the family but end the marriage because his relational needs are not being met. Fur either of them.

he’s no longer in love with the OP. How does this make him a cunt?

lol

MrsSlocombesCat · 01/06/2026 12:25

How is the person causing your problems going to help support you? And why would you want to be with someone who doesn't want to be with you? It's time to face reality I'm afraid. This is not your fault, but your husband just doesn't want to be with you any more. I would also suspect there's someone else in the picture ... there may not be an affair yet but the fact he wants to 'move out' without actually moving out properly means he wants to have his cake and eat it. This raises bright red flags that he's got an eye on single life without fully giving up his married life - yet. You deserve better. Kick him out, take the key, and work on your self esteem.

Blodyneighbour · 01/06/2026 12:32

From my own experience, he has someone else. My ex h was 'always stressed with work' too. And always "depressed" this went on for months. He is seeing how thibgs go with the mistresss and keeping you on the back burner.. Take his key away.

Owly11 · 01/06/2026 12:36

He has someone else. Men gain a lot from being in a relationship (sex, childcare, cleaning) and don't generally leave unless someone else is lined up. Don't agree to any of his ridiculous demands and get a good lawyer. Who did he go on his work trip with?

waterrat · 01/06/2026 12:37

Please don't look to him for support OP _ I would presume he is seeing someone else, its' very unlikely he would walk out of comfortable family life for no reason.

Absolutely under no circumstances should he get a key and to walk in and out.

He needs to know - if he leaves he leaves. You might want to keep him close in the hope he will return but I can 100 per cent guaruntee - it will just mean he has no respect for you and never even has the chance to regret what he has done.

You will give him a much better shock if you say - right, if it's over - you are out right now and we are done. I am not your friend, your semi- partner, we speak calmly and coldly and that is that

yes it will be painful to do this - but the other path is much much more painful - it will leave you feeling humilated desperate and sad.

Let him regret what he has done by making sure he knows what he has lost.

It might not lead to him returning but hopefully by the time this is clear you will have also begun to see he isn't the man you want anyway.

Notsosweetcaroline · 01/06/2026 12:56

This thread is shocking. No wonder the ops not come back, she comes in asking for help and all that’s happened is posters have had a pile on saying he’s cheating, one after the other, dozens, knowing so many have said it before, all running into put the boot in,

does anyone really think it needs to be repeatedly said and is the only thing worth saying, no help, nothing, just he’s cheating.

LizardLore · 01/06/2026 12:57

waterrat · 01/06/2026 12:37

Please don't look to him for support OP _ I would presume he is seeing someone else, its' very unlikely he would walk out of comfortable family life for no reason.

Absolutely under no circumstances should he get a key and to walk in and out.

He needs to know - if he leaves he leaves. You might want to keep him close in the hope he will return but I can 100 per cent guaruntee - it will just mean he has no respect for you and never even has the chance to regret what he has done.

You will give him a much better shock if you say - right, if it's over - you are out right now and we are done. I am not your friend, your semi- partner, we speak calmly and coldly and that is that

yes it will be painful to do this - but the other path is much much more painful - it will leave you feeling humilated desperate and sad.

Let him regret what he has done by making sure he knows what he has lost.

It might not lead to him returning but hopefully by the time this is clear you will have also begun to see he isn't the man you want anyway.

Agree with this. He may not be actually having the affair yet, hence why he’s still hanging around. But he definitely has his sights on someone. He thinks he can just carry on as normal while waiting to see if the other woman goes for him. He will be utterly shocked if you sweep the rug from under him. As he should be.

LizardLore · 01/06/2026 13:00

Notsosweetcaroline · 01/06/2026 12:56

This thread is shocking. No wonder the ops not come back, she comes in asking for help and all that’s happened is posters have had a pile on saying he’s cheating, one after the other, dozens, knowing so many have said it before, all running into put the boot in,

does anyone really think it needs to be repeatedly said and is the only thing worth saying, no help, nothing, just he’s cheating.

Maybe some are putting the boot in but in general I just think it’s realistic and really helpful for OP to understand how absolutely certain it is that this is about someone else. Then she can go forward with that reality in mind. I have no doubt it is absolutely awful to hear but she needs to hear it so she can protect herself and her kids and put a stop to all this coming and going as he pleases nonsense.

I have never seen a situation like this in real life or read of one on here where there wasn’t another woman on the horizon.

Freeyourmind · 01/06/2026 13:05

I know you don't believe there is anyone else, but just rule it out first. This really does scream of another woman, and you may well be right, but best to be sure.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 01/06/2026 13:13

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 31/05/2026 21:45

He’s cunt.

He wants to have a key and come and go whenever?

He wants a wife and a mistress and zero responsibility. That’s what he wants. He’s all ‘me, me, me’.

You can do far better.

These ‘men’ disgust me.

I do t get that at all from OP's nuanced first post

Thiswasanescapeplan · 01/06/2026 13:25

No op since approx page 2 of thread, just fyi

Notsosweetcaroline · 01/06/2026 13:30

LizardLore · 01/06/2026 13:00

Maybe some are putting the boot in but in general I just think it’s realistic and really helpful for OP to understand how absolutely certain it is that this is about someone else. Then she can go forward with that reality in mind. I have no doubt it is absolutely awful to hear but she needs to hear it so she can protect herself and her kids and put a stop to all this coming and going as he pleases nonsense.

I have never seen a situation like this in real life or read of one on here where there wasn’t another woman on the horizon.

That’s fine but the first 100 posts would habe confirmed that for her I feel like the only poster who has tried to give her other advice. And still they are piling on with nothing other to say,

Ichbinberliner · 01/06/2026 13:32

This sounds incredibly similar to what happened in my marriage. We continued doing things as a family, even going on holiday together. I didn't want the separation and divorce so think I was desperate to continue doing those things, and my now ex husband clearly wanted to opt in and out of family life as he chose. With hindsight I wish I'd stopped acting as a family much sooner than I did. I only started to feel better and get over it once we started leading much more separate lives. Continuing with your lives being so intertwined just prolongs the agony in my experience. After 20 years together though I found it incredibly difficult to step back and stop relying on him. It's easier said than done.

4 years after the separation and now divorced, I feel much better but it's been a long process. I look at my ex and wonder was it really worth it. His life doesn't look to have improved and if he's happier he's hiding it well. I'm back to being as content as I was before. It's not what I'd have chosen but I was pretty comfortable with myself before and still am. I don't think he was, and I don't think it was the kids or me who were the problem, so I'd guess his level of happiness (or unhappiness) is also roughly the same as before. Wishing you and your children all the very best.

Anonyhouse · 01/06/2026 13:37

Oh how lovely he wants to come and go as he pleases from your home!
Im sure he made it sound like that was him being helpful, but it won’t help you get over him to have him in and out of your home. He’s also not the person you need support from. Keep going to your therapy, separately. Work on being ok with being a single parent. Make arrangements for him to have the kids wherever he moves to. Focus on building yourself back up, develop new friendships and hobbies on your child free days. Don’t let him keep you hanging on a thread. I know this is all shit right now, but sever the ties and don’t drag the hurt out any longer than necessary. And don’t give the kids false hope by having family holidays etc. Who knows if he has someone else, it’s not important now as it’s over regardless. You will be ok, all of you xxx

Sadandneedahug · 01/06/2026 14:02

I’m reading all of these replies. I’ve asked him a few times if he’s got someone else and he says no, he wants to leave because he’s unhappy.

I can get onto his emails but I feel bad doing so because I do believe him about this. He also leaves his iPad and laptop lying around regularly which are synced to his phone so I don’t think he’d do that if he had anything to hide.

OP posts:
Bbkjgvbbvv · 01/06/2026 14:07

I would also say that men never leave unless they have someone else lined up. Yes, everyone always suggests that blokes should first think about leaving before getting together with someone, but in practice, that seems to be very rare.

Loreleily · 01/06/2026 14:08

ThatBlackCat · 01/06/2026 03:13

99% of the time it's an affair. That's just a fact. Men do not up and leave their own home and family unless they have something to go to. That, is also fact.

Saying something is ‘fact’ repeatedly doesn’t make it a fact. Where’s the evidence that 99% of men leaving marriages are having an affair? My ex must have been in the 1% if that’s the case even though everyone on here banged on that I was being naive and an affair/ other woman would come to light. Spoiler: they didn’t and ex and I have a very friendly and respectful co-parenting relationship.

Rachelshair · 01/06/2026 14:08

Sadandneedahug · 01/06/2026 14:02

I’m reading all of these replies. I’ve asked him a few times if he’s got someone else and he says no, he wants to leave because he’s unhappy.

I can get onto his emails but I feel bad doing so because I do believe him about this. He also leaves his iPad and laptop lying around regularly which are synced to his phone so I don’t think he’d do that if he had anything to hide.

It doesn't really matter if he's got someone else, he wants out, so that's what you're dealing with, regardless. You'll send yourself mad looking for evidence, spend that time and energy on yourself, finding a lawyer, getting support from others, treating yourself well.

Mydoreston · 01/06/2026 14:11

Sadandneedahug · 01/06/2026 14:02

I’m reading all of these replies. I’ve asked him a few times if he’s got someone else and he says no, he wants to leave because he’s unhappy.

I can get onto his emails but I feel bad doing so because I do believe him about this. He also leaves his iPad and laptop lying around regularly which are synced to his phone so I don’t think he’d do that if he had anything to hide.

Well most don’t exactly admit it so that proves nothing either way.

Maybe unpopular opinion but if I could access his texts I would, just one time and do a read through.

Plenty of women have caught out their partners cheating as they’ve been careless with tech. So definitely don’t think because he has left devices out that means he’s got nothing to hide.

Stoicandhappy · 01/06/2026 14:13

Vinvertebrate · 31/05/2026 21:50

Cherchez la femme. And get ducks in a row.

I agree with this. Sorry.

Lifecircle · 01/06/2026 14:17

I spent 2 years believing my husband telling me there was no other woman involved.
He was in anguish telling me he was confused and loved me alone. We even went to marriage guidance (as it used to be known).
I believed it all.
I found the truth from the other woman involved. She was as confused as I was.
I wish you well.