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('D')P frequently threatens to take his own life during conflict -how to navigate separation?

85 replies

ChillyRiff · 29/03/2026 19:39

Practical help, please.

My DC's dad, whom I have lived with for 20 years but am finally slowly side-stepping out of relationship with, has a predisposition to anxiety and depression -it's been a feature of our lives for as long as we've known eachother.

He becomes easily overwhelmed and defensive when we try to approach challenges in our co-habiting and parenting, he catastrophises and blames and usually shuts down the conversation abruptly by walking away and shutting himself in his room, often for hours, and bailing on whatever plans he may have had for the day.

When dysregulated or percieving criticism, he has a disturbing habit of alluding to, or outrightly declaring his intention to, or sharing his worry that he might feel compelled to, take his own life. It is a fairly frequent occurrence, in one shape or form. He will come to the end of his capacity to engage in a conversation, say something about ending his life (heavily laced with implied blame), walk off, hide for a while (hours or, in extreme cases, days) then re-emerge as if nothing has happened.

Over the years, I have tried taking him at face value, tried responding as if he is about to make a serious attempt, tried being supportive, tried to share what it is like to be on perpetual tenterhooks, tried calling his bluff, tried 'calling him out', tried not responding at all; nothing changes. One might think that, after such a long time, it shouldn't affect me, but it does. He made one attempt quite early on although I am not sure it wasn't just a 'marker' in order to instill the belief that he could, if pressed, go all the way: I returned home after having taken time out during an argument, to find 'evidence' of an attempt and him telling me he'd been "very close", but decided not to go ahead. He is not interested in medication or therapy.

The result is that I am always wary of pushing him, even in areas of conflict and challenge in our relationship which require urgent attention, in case this is the time he decides to go ahead. He can be rash and impulsive, and finds it very difficult that I tend to stay calm during conflict, so he says and does things 'for effect'. This morning, he declared that one day soon, I'd walk into his room to find a 'corpse', and written on the wall would be "Well done, girls -you've won!", meaning me and the DC, whom he is finding it hard to connect with at the moment (they obviously aren't aware of this side of their dad).

I don't think anyone would guess this is what our life is like. People have a completely different perception of him. He's really careful not to show any of this to others, it's all 'behind closed doors': he's adored by friends and colleagues, who see him as a great provider, emotionally literate and probably a bit of a catch.

I'm finally in a situation where, having worked on my 'ducks' for some time, I hope to be able to leave soon, for a variety of reasons; his being such hard work emotionally being the main factor. What I'm asking is, how can I finally make the transition from feeling I'm somehow responsible for his mental health, to letting that fall to him, for better or for worse? And not be reeled in or brought to submission by inevitable future threats? My fear is that he'll go ahead out of spite when I leave.

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SillyJilly2020 · 29/03/2026 19:43

Give him the tools ffs. If he was going to do it he wld do it quietly

sausagedog2000 · 29/03/2026 19:47

My abusive ex used to do this and when I told him I was leaving him he claimed once again he was going to kill himself so I called an ambulance and two male paramedics turned up. He was mortified. Might be an option for you.

Lobesloope · 29/03/2026 19:48

You. Are. Not. Responsible. For. Him.

...and i'd put money on him not doing it in the end, its a manipulation tactic.

marcyhermit · 29/03/2026 19:52

This morning, he declared that one day soon, I'd walk into his room to find a 'corpse', and written on the wall would be "Well done, girls -you've won!", meaning me and the DC, whom he is finding it hard to connect with at the moment (they obviously aren't aware of this side of their dad).

That is despicable and abusive behaviour and would be a red line for me. I'd either ask him to leave immediately or take the children and go yourself - whatever is easier/safer for you. There's no coming back from that.

TheApparition · 29/03/2026 19:52

Sorry to hear you are going through this. My dad was the same, and he made me witness him take an overdose when I was 17 years old (my mum had filed for divorce) which has affected me greatly. There was another attempt when a subsequent woman left him and I had to pick up the pieces. My grandfather had used suicide threats/attempts to control the family too and eventually succeeded back in the 70s although it was presumed that they just didnt pump his stomach in time.
My father and I ended up estranged in the end but I feel the effects of it every day. I am extremely conflict avoidant and I’ve ended up in two DV relationships because I find it difficult to end things with people as I’m scared they will attempt. I think you are doing the right thing in leaving, but just be prepared he may well make your children witness the behaviour. If he does put them through anything then I would seek therapy for them so they don’t end up like me. These types of people don’t care who they traumatise.

Listlostlast · 29/03/2026 19:53

He won’t. He’s manipulating you into doing what he wants, that’s all. If it was genuine, you’d know it by now. You need to disengage and put yourself and your kids first, you’re not responsible for him.

ChurpyBurd · 29/03/2026 19:53

sausagedog2000 · 29/03/2026 19:47

My abusive ex used to do this and when I told him I was leaving him he claimed once again he was going to kill himself so I called an ambulance and two male paramedics turned up. He was mortified. Might be an option for you.

100% this.
The second he makes the threat, you put the phone down, you call the police and report it.

People threaten suicide for two reasons - because they're genuine or because theyre attention seeking.

Either way they need serious help. Call someone to help them.

ChillyRiff · 29/03/2026 19:53

Thank you, I just need to hear that I'm not being able complete insensitive cow. It's so exhausting. I've tried saying that it feels like a 'below the belt' move, but he's having none of it.

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Listlostlast · 29/03/2026 19:55

The example you give, about what he says he’d write on the wall, that’s fucking disgusting, he’s an abusive piece of shit. You say the kids don’t know, they certainly will, sooner or later. They don’t deserve this.

ChopstickNovice · 29/03/2026 19:55

One of my best friends never even mentioned suicide. Thank goodness his parents found him in time. I think people serious about taking their own lives wouldn't talk about it all the time, they would just do it.

ChurpyBurd · 29/03/2026 19:56

ChillyRiff · 29/03/2026 19:53

Thank you, I just need to hear that I'm not being able complete insensitive cow. It's so exhausting. I've tried saying that it feels like a 'below the belt' move, but he's having none of it.

We're talking about a man who said he was going to blame his own children for his death.

He's twisted OP.
Do not expect reason & fair play.

RandomMess · 29/03/2026 19:56

I think the same let him crack, he’s been emotionally abusing you for decades. Folk who are serious depressed wouldn’t be keeping up this facade in that way with everyone else.

TrashHeap · 29/03/2026 19:58

He knows exactly what he's doing, don't feel an ounce of guilt. He can deal with his manipulative nonsense all by himself.

Batties · 29/03/2026 19:58

First, this is abuse. The reason you feel responsible for his mental health is because he’s conditioned you to feel that way, and what you’re feeling is the result of that conditioning.

marcyhermit · 29/03/2026 19:59

ChillyRiff · 29/03/2026 19:53

Thank you, I just need to hear that I'm not being able complete insensitive cow. It's so exhausting. I've tried saying that it feels like a 'below the belt' move, but he's having none of it.

You're being too sensitive to his needs when you should be prioritising your children and yourself.

thetinsoldier · 29/03/2026 20:01

That sounds absolutely exhausting - for you. How have you had the strength to deal with this over so many years?

Your h is abusive, manipulative and quite frankly disturbed.

his behaviour is a massive red flag.

The only one who can change hour you feel is you. his behaviour is not your responsibility. He is completely responsible for himself.

i think what he has done over the years is despicable. Hiding from conflict, threatening suicide to shut you up - what a horrible, horrible man.

i hope you manage to leave soon, and i wish you a peaceful life.

FlapperFlamingo · 29/03/2026 20:05

If he threatens when you go ahead with separating I think I would say “i understand , I will inform the police so they can welfare check but I’m still going ahead”. Or if you feel his parents would’ve appropriate then tell them. Then get on with leaving. If he keeps calling or messaging then block him and use an app to communicate re childcare arrangements. He sounds awful and manipulative.

wordledrivingmemad · 29/03/2026 20:07

Listlostlast · 29/03/2026 19:55

The example you give, about what he says he’d write on the wall, that’s fucking disgusting, he’s an abusive piece of shit. You say the kids don’t know, they certainly will, sooner or later. They don’t deserve this.

Agreed. If he’s threatening to do this tell him he’s a piece of shit. If you want to be really harsh, if he says he’ll kill hinself because you’ve said your leaving, just tell him that either way he won’t be in your life going forward. His way makes him a selfish piece of crap/his choice and nothing to do with you and the other is your decision for your own sanity. Knowing my personality, if anyone said they were going to kill themselves as a threat, I’d tell them to crack on, but then I can be a heartless cow sometimes! The calling the police if he threatens it though is probably the sensible way to go though. I suggest you stop communicating with him other than yes/no answers. Also, if it was the other way round and you were threatening to kill yourself if he left, he’d be out that door without a thought.

ChillyRiff · 29/03/2026 20:15

Thanks again. I really appreciate it. Yes, I feel like he's done such a number on me. And sort of taken advantage of the fact that he knows I'll err on the side of caution. I picture myself and the DC once we're out of here, quietly thinking to myself "Wtf was all that about?!"

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Dazedandconfused28 · 29/03/2026 20:20

As PP's have said - you must call 999 if he threatens this again, take him at his word.

ThisJadeBear · 29/03/2026 20:21

I have been suicidal and suffered from suicide ideation. I have CTPSD and when absolutely overwhelmed will retreat from the world.
What I haven’t been able to do during real periods of distress is to convey to the outside world that I’m a fantastic person who everyone would respect and admire.
What I have also done is had trauma based therapy to rebuild my life. Anyone untrained, even someone who loves you, it is too much for them to deal with.
Your husband is managing to function quite well in the world and then he’s coming home and abusing you and your children. It’s that simple. The comment made about ‘well done, girls!’ is absolutely repulsive.
He is mentally ill but I would imagine it’s a severe personality disorder. Which makes him a danger to your wellbeing.
I have a friend with a very similar husband. He actually messaged her once to tell her he was off to end his life, and everyone would blame her. She called me in a blind panic, my other half called the police and gave his car registration.
The police found him pretty much immediately. Not ending his life. He was actually in a drive-thru, reading his newspaper, eating a burger, absolutely unharmed. So, not suicidal. But he was angry with her for calling me and getting the police involved!
Two decades is two decades too long. To be blunt, if he really wants to end his life, he will. The chances are he won’t but you cannot have that have held over you.
You are not responsible, and if he’s well enough to work and function he’s well enough to go to therapy.
Get some support, advice, help, and leave.
This is not living for you, it’s like being kept hostage.

Octavia64 · 29/03/2026 20:23

This is quite a common tactic from people.

firstly it seems quite likely that this is being used to control you rather than being genuine. However I would suggest that you treat it as if it were genuine,

if it were genuine, the way I would approach this is to sympathise with him briefly. State that you are sorry to hear that he is feeling suicidal. Then say that as you feel you have a level of responsibility for him you are going to need to speak to medical services to get advice on this, and also alert his family so that they can support him.

follow through on this. Email his gp (cc’d in to him) putting it on record and asking for them to contact him to talk through the support that can be offered.

etc etc.

essentially you are aiming to take it seriously but not allow him to use it to manipulate you but to put on record the situation and get him external help,

he may well be depressed in which case the help is needed. If he is not then he will probably stop using this as a tactic.

MrsLizzieDarcy · 29/03/2026 20:28

He's using it as a way of controlling you, and for a very long time it has worked. You've spent 20 years walking on eggshells he's laid. It's vile behaviour OP, from him, and horribly manipulative.

What he does/threatens is on him. Not you.

Randomuser2026 · 29/03/2026 20:28

He has done a number on you. I hope you are recording the instances of abuse to use in subsequent residency proceedings.

if you can try to close off and just focus on getting out.

friedaddedchilli · 29/03/2026 20:30

I have been suicidal. It was absolutely an I can’t bear it anymore feeling, not a right, I’ll show you and you’ll be sorry feeling.