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Is there something going on here…

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Ellabootoo · 19/03/2026 22:15

I’m a PhD student with a male supervisor (not main supervisor). I’ve noticed recently that he keeps staring at me everytime he walks past my desk. He seems to be walking past my desk more frequently too, sometime walking by slowly and looking at me. We make eye contact a lot. He has approached me to simply ask “if you ever wanna chat we can always go for a coffee” I brushed him off a bit saying that I’m still early in my project and I don’t really have anything to update him on, as I assumed he meant he wanted a project update. However, he said I don’t have to have much to update but that if I just wanted to chat we could. He has then asked the same thing again on a different occasion. I emailed him recently to arrange a catch up about my project, which he agreed to. The email was typical of a supervisor/student, “hey, would you be available for a catch up next week?” although this was our first meeting as I have only recently started.

One week after arranging this meeting, I was having lunch by myself and he walks in, looks at me for a moment, but with his eyes kind of narrowed like he’s thinking about something as he’s looking at me, I say hello, he does an awkward wave, waving his hand down by his side but doesn’t say hi. I think there may have been one other person in the lunch room. He gets a drink then heads back to the door. But before he leaves, he turns around and says “actually myname, I just wanted to ask if anything’s wrong, did something bad happen? I was taken aback and said no, I just wanted to give you an update on my project. He then seemed relieved and said he just wanted to know the “tone” of the meeting. Does this seem like an excuse to come up to me or was he checking to see if the meeting was to talk about something more personal?

It seems very strange and I haven’t had this type of interaction with any other supervisor. Surely he wouldn’t need to check the tone of our meeting, of course it’s about my project, he’s my supervisor?! , what else would it be about, and if it were something bad I would have mentioned in the email. During the meeting he brought a water bottle, and had his phone propped up on the water bottle, and on the screen was picture of who I assume was him and his wife. It was an incredibly odd thing to do. Since then, he’s been looking at me, there was a moment where we locked eyes for a few seconds, but it was really odd, and felt very intense to the point I had to look away. Because of the eye contact and looks when we met for the meeting it was definitely awkward to begin with, I think we both definitely feel there is some tension. Sometimes he’ll come into his work area which is behind mine and just potter around for a minute before leaving, and I’ll catch him looking at me.

Today he sent an email as I was on my way into work, saying: Hoping you could help me out with a quick favour... would you please be able to take out the orange bin in my lab bay area? manager says it needs taking out for a visit (I must have missed the other day) and I'm WFH today and have no one else I can ask... I'd really owe you one!

Sorry for the wall of text. I don’t have an interest in anything with this person, but for the sake of my career etc, I would like to know what, if anything is going on.

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Wishicouldgetofftgesofa · 19/03/2026 23:07

I’ve no idea OP. Maybe send him a message with having a coffee with my boyfriend at the moment I’ll do the bin in a bit

Hopefully somebody with a better idea of what’s going on will come along soon and give you some decent advice

ItWasntMyFault · 19/03/2026 23:16

Well if you’re locking eyes for several seconds he probably thinks you fancy him. I certainly don’t gaze into the eyes of my manager!

KittytheHare · 19/03/2026 23:17

If he is making you uncomfortable, is there anyone you can speak to in confidence at your university? Supervisors have protocols to adhere to, if he is making you this uncomfortable at this early stage, how on earth can you continue for the next few years?

Ellabootoo · 19/03/2026 23:19

ItWasntMyFault · 19/03/2026 23:16

Well if you’re locking eyes for several seconds he probably thinks you fancy him. I certainly don’t gaze into the eyes of my manager!

It wasn’t really a gaze, I looked up and he was staring intensely and it stayed like that for a few seconds before I looked away.

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quietlysad · 19/03/2026 23:27

Sorry if I’m totally misreading this but honestly it sounds to me like you fancy him and want us all to agree that he definitely likes you too.

bumptybum · 19/03/2026 23:36

quietlysad · 19/03/2026 23:27

Sorry if I’m totally misreading this but honestly it sounds to me like you fancy him and want us all to agree that he definitely likes you too.

I don’t read it like that ar all

FlapperFlamingo · 20/03/2026 00:08

Maybe he is just socially awkward? Mine was also a bit like this. I just kept it brief and professional. Are there only a few women in your field? I thought mine didn’t know how to speak to me (electronics and computer science).

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 20/03/2026 00:11

bumptybum · 19/03/2026 23:36

I don’t read it like that ar all

Me neither. I had similar with my PhD supervisor, and he even once ran his hand up my bare knee to under my skirt and squeezed the top of my naked!!! thigh and then said, "I shouldn't, my wife will kill me." !!!!!! As though I - a 25 y younger woman - would be interested in that dead mouse-breathed git!

Guys like that are perfectly capable of fooling themselves that we're gasping for their foul little dicks.

His inappropriate behaviour freaked me out so much, it was one of the reasons I left lab science after my PhD and postdocs.

We didn't have anyone to go to in those days (1990s) but things have improved. Do you have a HR body? Or can you talk to your main supervisor?

Justchillinhere · 20/03/2026 01:10

This sounds like Mills & Boon, romantic fiction of days gone by to me. OP just keep everything professional, if he causes you any more concern speak to a supervisor

Andylion · 20/03/2026 03:25

quietlysad · 19/03/2026 23:27

Sorry if I’m totally misreading this but honestly it sounds to me like you fancy him and want us all to agree that he definitely likes you too.

I thought that too. Surely otherwise the post would be “my supervisor is being weird and making me uncomfortable”.

Willsmer · 20/03/2026 05:39

This is wrong. A supervisor for a PhD should follow professional boundaries. It does not matter that you are over 18 (I assume that you are over 21).I suggest that you talk to a female members of the Dept or a women's support network on campus. You should not be having to put up with this. It is sexual harassment. However you must keep a log of all incidents , dates, times, places and any other people present. Any texts or e-mails also keep. If not then he will accuse you of fantasy.

If you have any meetings on a 1:1 basis, make sure the door is open and sit near the door. If the room has blinds open them and ask if you can record the meeting so you can review any discussion points afterwards. You could also ask for someone else to be present.

Hope it works for you.

Ellabootoo · 20/03/2026 08:53

Andylion · 20/03/2026 03:25

I thought that too. Surely otherwise the post would be “my supervisor is being weird and making me uncomfortable”.

He is married. I am on a long term relationship. I wouldn’t even think of having an inappropriate relationship. I simply feel uncomfortable but don’t know if I have reason to be am I overthinking or is his behaviour weird.

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ViciousCurrentBun · 20/03/2026 09:14

I worked in HE for 27 years there are certainly many weird people that are socially inept in that sector. DH and I have been called endearing but odd by close friends before. There are strict rules in place if you teach regarding interactions with students. Never asked a student for coffee and neither did DH mainly because we would have felt obliged to buy and we are too tight.

Looks that make anyone feel uncomfortable are awful though. I am retired now and volunteer and there is a male service user who makes many women feel uncomfortable. He hasn’t actually done anything wrong though.

So far this person has done nothing actually wrong, but avoid being alone with him. Assume you have a shared office so have meetings there with other students about. Door open obviously. When DH dept had a new building all the offices and rooms had a glass wall in to the internal corridor, far less chance of any poor behaviour. DH used to nap in his comfy chair in the corner and was mighty pissed off. He used to have to run experiments in to the night sometimes so needed a break, I told him to just turn it round facing the other way.

Ellabootoo · 20/03/2026 09:49

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 20/03/2026 00:11

Me neither. I had similar with my PhD supervisor, and he even once ran his hand up my bare knee to under my skirt and squeezed the top of my naked!!! thigh and then said, "I shouldn't, my wife will kill me." !!!!!! As though I - a 25 y younger woman - would be interested in that dead mouse-breathed git!

Guys like that are perfectly capable of fooling themselves that we're gasping for their foul little dicks.

His inappropriate behaviour freaked me out so much, it was one of the reasons I left lab science after my PhD and postdocs.

We didn't have anyone to go to in those days (1990s) but things have improved. Do you have a HR body? Or can you talk to your main supervisor?

There are definitely people I can speak to, but I don’t know whether it has come to that? I don’t want to mess up my supervision and get a superior in trouble for something that is probably a misunderstanding..

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LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 20/03/2026 10:18

Ellabootoo · 20/03/2026 09:49

There are definitely people I can speak to, but I don’t know whether it has come to that? I don’t want to mess up my supervision and get a superior in trouble for something that is probably a misunderstanding..

I agree with the PP who said you should log everything in minute detail, with dates and times and places. Make sure you're never in a room alone with him with the door closed. I also agree that you should talk to a woman's support group on campus.

I suspect that once you start asking around, you will find that this is not the first time this man has made female students feel uncomfortable (or worse). A decade after I left lab science, I ran into another of the female PhD students who was in my lab and she told me that my supervisor had also made inappropriate comments to her and also touched her inappropriately, and that in fact, a few years after we had left his lab, five female staff and students had complained and there was an investigation. He had to have training and someone sitting in on all of his meetings with female staff/students for a year. According to my ex-colleague, he didn't learn a thing, btw, he said it was all a "witch hunt". He is still working as a lab head at the age of 70 but looking at the uni website, every single one of his staff and students is male.

Don't second guess yourself, OP. At best, he has a crush on you, at worst he's a predator. You have no idea where on the spectrum he lies but he is in a position of power over you and if he does 'just' have a crush, he is responsible for his own feelings and regulating himself and behaving appropriately. If he can't, he should recuse himself as your supervisor.

I sympathise with you so much. Sexual harassment and bullying in science is still so prevalent and has caused so many talented women to leave science.

Yeppityyesthankyou · 20/03/2026 10:35

Trust your gut. Keep a log of awkward or inappropriate situations just incase it escalates.

Ellabootoo · 20/03/2026 14:22

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 20/03/2026 10:18

I agree with the PP who said you should log everything in minute detail, with dates and times and places. Make sure you're never in a room alone with him with the door closed. I also agree that you should talk to a woman's support group on campus.

I suspect that once you start asking around, you will find that this is not the first time this man has made female students feel uncomfortable (or worse). A decade after I left lab science, I ran into another of the female PhD students who was in my lab and she told me that my supervisor had also made inappropriate comments to her and also touched her inappropriately, and that in fact, a few years after we had left his lab, five female staff and students had complained and there was an investigation. He had to have training and someone sitting in on all of his meetings with female staff/students for a year. According to my ex-colleague, he didn't learn a thing, btw, he said it was all a "witch hunt". He is still working as a lab head at the age of 70 but looking at the uni website, every single one of his staff and students is male.

Don't second guess yourself, OP. At best, he has a crush on you, at worst he's a predator. You have no idea where on the spectrum he lies but he is in a position of power over you and if he does 'just' have a crush, he is responsible for his own feelings and regulating himself and behaving appropriately. If he can't, he should recuse himself as your supervisor.

I sympathise with you so much. Sexual harassment and bullying in science is still so prevalent and has caused so many talented women to leave science.

Oh that’s awful, thank you for the advice!

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Willsmer · 20/03/2026 19:29

The other difficulty that arises from this will this individual have any influence upon your overall grade of our PhD. He may make life very difficult for you, undermining your work, constant little criticisms. Chipping away at our self confidence. You may be both adults but he is in a position of authority and it seems as if he is abusing this. .

Ellabootoo · 20/03/2026 20:57

Willsmer · 20/03/2026 19:29

The other difficulty that arises from this will this individual have any influence upon your overall grade of our PhD. He may make life very difficult for you, undermining your work, constant little criticisms. Chipping away at our self confidence. You may be both adults but he is in a position of authority and it seems as if he is abusing this. .

This is exactly what I’m worried about. I don’t really speak to him all that much, especially since the staring, not even in passing really apart from hello unless we have a meeting scheduled. This has actually been going on for months but I thought nothing of it initially. I’m hoping that it will just stop as I don’t think there’s anything that I can actually do right now.

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GoodThingsAlways · 20/03/2026 23:42

Agree with the others and will just add a tip - make yourself less available to him. Too busy with x or y experiment to move his bins (WTF? Checking if you are available to move his rubbish? Interesting nonverbals there) and try not to be alone with him. Make it so he’s not able to “owe you one”. How unprofessional of him. Keep office doors open & log everything. As a PP said, at best he has a crush, at worst he’s a predator.

Over 30 years ago when I was doing my PhD, one of my supervisors was overly flirty with me. A bit like this, but often getting giggly and weird, making remarks about my appearance & making excuses in meetings so we’d be alone. During a conversation I jokingly told him that I wondered how the university SMT would like to hear about his sexist and harassing behaviours. I was genuinely naive and socially awkward and meant it jokingly - although you have to ask yourself what provoked that - he immediately changed tone, I’ll never forget his face, he behaved himself after that.

ThreadneedleRoad · 21/03/2026 00:07

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 20/03/2026 00:11

Me neither. I had similar with my PhD supervisor, and he even once ran his hand up my bare knee to under my skirt and squeezed the top of my naked!!! thigh and then said, "I shouldn't, my wife will kill me." !!!!!! As though I - a 25 y younger woman - would be interested in that dead mouse-breathed git!

Guys like that are perfectly capable of fooling themselves that we're gasping for their foul little dicks.

His inappropriate behaviour freaked me out so much, it was one of the reasons I left lab science after my PhD and postdocs.

We didn't have anyone to go to in those days (1990s) but things have improved. Do you have a HR body? Or can you talk to your main supervisor?

If you can’t tell the difference between being groped and being glanced at, I wonder.

Ellabootoo · 21/03/2026 09:02

GoodThingsAlways · 20/03/2026 23:42

Agree with the others and will just add a tip - make yourself less available to him. Too busy with x or y experiment to move his bins (WTF? Checking if you are available to move his rubbish? Interesting nonverbals there) and try not to be alone with him. Make it so he’s not able to “owe you one”. How unprofessional of him. Keep office doors open & log everything. As a PP said, at best he has a crush, at worst he’s a predator.

Over 30 years ago when I was doing my PhD, one of my supervisors was overly flirty with me. A bit like this, but often getting giggly and weird, making remarks about my appearance & making excuses in meetings so we’d be alone. During a conversation I jokingly told him that I wondered how the university SMT would like to hear about his sexist and harassing behaviours. I was genuinely naive and socially awkward and meant it jokingly - although you have to ask yourself what provoked that - he immediately changed tone, I’ll never forget his face, he behaved himself after that.

What do you mean by “interesting nonverbals”? Sorry, I’m really not clued up with all of this!

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catipuss · 21/03/2026 09:08

Has he left something for you in the bin? Where are you meant to take the bin? And why are you the only one he can ask? And who cares if there is a bin in an office?

CocoaTea · 21/03/2026 09:15

quietlysad · 19/03/2026 23:27

Sorry if I’m totally misreading this but honestly it sounds to me like you fancy him and want us all to agree that he definitely likes you too.

This is how I interpreted it as well.

Ellabootoo · 21/03/2026 09:21

catipuss · 21/03/2026 09:08

Has he left something for you in the bin? Where are you meant to take the bin? And why are you the only one he can ask? And who cares if there is a bin in an office?

I didn’t check to see if he left anything in the bins. He just wanted me to empty them for him. There was an important person coming to visit and everyone was supposed to clean their area of the lab. He was in the lab the day before but apparently in his email he said he must of missed it, but literally so many emails and reminders were sent about this so I don’t know. Another girl I work with was surprised that I was emptying his bins and laughed asking “wasn’t he here yesterday”. He’s an assistant professor, everyone in the labs know him, so he could have definitely asked someone else. I’ve been trying to not read too deeply into it, but the “I’d really owe you one” threw me off a bit, it’s literally just changing a bin..took all of 30 seconds 😵‍💫

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