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Found condoms and wet wipes in DH's work/ travel bag (yes another one of these!)

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Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 06:17

I've read many similar threads on here, maybe adding another will help develop a data pool for trend analysis or FAQs for other Mumsnetters (ha!) but really, I just need to recount my experience and maybe get some advice specific to my circumstances - even though it's on a common topic.

Several condoms dated 2029, together with individually wrapped wet wipes multi pack - many of which are open - found in DH travel/ work backpack. No open or used condoms, just the wipes. Been in couples' therapy for 2 years, been intimate twice or thrice in that time so I probably deserve it if he's cheating. I just thought he was still in the 'we are working on it' headspace. I was looking for pens or pencils for DS1 (6) homework last night (just moved house - no idea where the pens are yet) not looking for trouble. So I behaved calmly (I'm generally very expressive and emotional)and took out a sample of both on the floor by his bed, where I thought it would be obvious to him I had found them. I know he found them as I was flossing with my back turned as I hear me swearing and him jumping up to move them (DS1 and DS2 (3) were in their beds). The paraphernalia wasn't there when I turned and there has been no mention of it (not how I expected it to play out but determined not to be super emotional, which is what he would expect, and use to deflect from the problem at hand)

A few other things have my Spidey senses going. DH has been hugely and noticeably protective of his phone recently. He's always on it, won't show me me anything on his screen if he is looking at something and commenting on it, would rather send it to me (although he always would turn the screen to show me in the past). It never leaves his sight, it was on a charger close to me one night, next to the night stand with my water on it, I reached to get my water and he was barely awake and managed to sense, wake up and grab the phone as I reached my glass. He was never a fan of handing over his phone to DS to watch something as a distraction if we'd gotten desperate for him to sit still ( I am always happy to, unless I'm out of charge). Now, it is the only scenario where he would sooner make a scene (usually hates this) than hand it over.

He works in the office more, and goes for more conferences (locally but long days or the odd overnight) social meals and drinks after work. I thought it was due to his new job, and my job is the same. The odder thing is how many short notice travel ones he now has, they weren't mentioned to me as an initial criterion for the role.

He's been very amenable to sleeping in the guest bedroom in the last few months too. DCs have been waking up a lot at night and coming into our bed. In fact he's most recently been insisting that they start the night in bed with me while he sleeps in the guest room, citing 'we would all get better sleep'. Which we actually have.

I should ask him outright, about the condoms. Maybe tonight after the kids are down (we may not get a chance in the morning, getting kids ready, and DH is working from the office all day). But he may have gotten rid of the evidence, and he has been known to lie and gaslight in the past to get out of things.

What would you think and do? If he has been cheating, the marriage becomes irreparable, in my view - couples' therapy be damned.

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CarelessWimper · 21/01/2026 15:46

I would assume at least for now, that the marriage is over but he isn’t ready to leave.

Personally I wouldn’t bring this up again yet. I would be focused on getting myself ready to separate. How is the financial side of things and work and childcare? If you have someone you can trust to talk to in real life that won’t say anything then I would speak with them. There seems to be little point rehashing this issue with him.

Daisywhatsyouranswer · 21/01/2026 15:49

UpMyself · 21/01/2026 15:39

@Daisywhatsyouranswer , because of the blaming the woman for a man's infidelity. 'If he doesn't get his oats, he'll go elsewhere' mentality.
Why they aren't having regular sex isn't clear, and men may be having regular sex at home and with the OW.

What on earth are you on about. Whay I said doesn’t translate to blame the woman.

if you’re looking to attack then move on.

wrongthinker · 21/01/2026 15:50

He's absolutely having an affair, OP, and I think you do know this.

Now that you've asked to see his phone, he may well wipe evidence from it. But you know that if he had nothing to hide, he would have handed it over when you first asked.

You cannot and do not trust him. This is over.

My advice would be to get your ducks in a row. Kids, finances, housing. Talk to a lawyer. Make sure you know where the money is. Once you get the ball rolling with this, you'll see a different side to him, and it won't be good. So make sure you get everything you need in place right now, and only let him know when you are ready.

I know it's frightening, but a good and happy life is on the other side of this.

Daisywhatsyouranswer · 21/01/2026 15:50

UpMyself · 21/01/2026 15:39

@Daisywhatsyouranswer , because of the blaming the woman for a man's infidelity. 'If he doesn't get his oats, he'll go elsewhere' mentality.
Why they aren't having regular sex isn't clear, and men may be having regular sex at home and with the OW.

Also we’ve no idea why they aren’t having sex, it could be his choice. So no one blamed the woman. If you’re projecting then stop it.

Beachtastic · 21/01/2026 15:53

I don't think asking him for explanations is helpful. Even if he knows how he feels, it's too soon for him to be able to articulate it clearly right now (these conversations are much easier in retrospect, with enough water under the bridge) and he will be in damage limitation mode. He's probably just as reluctant as you are to let go of what you've shared together.

It sounds as though it might be possible, once you have things lined up, for you to approach this without rancour. Something along the lines of "Thank you for all we've shared, I think this has run its course for us both."

If you ever need to tap into optimism and encouragement, I've always loved these lyrics

blackpooolrock · 21/01/2026 16:09

Maybe he's having an affair - maybe he isn't. I don't think that's what counts in this instance. The intent is there, he has planned or is planning to sleep with someone which is why he bought condoms. The individual wet wipes are a new one on me, never heard of them being wrapped like that.

He is obviously hiding something given he won't show his phone.

He is gaslighting and out and out lying when he says he doesn't know - he's treating you like an idiot quite frankly - he knows it and you know it.

Personally i would tell him very calmly it doesn't really matter what he admits to. You have seen enough evidence to believe he had the intent to cheat if he hasn't already done it. Given he won't show his phone that suggests he is guilty of infidelity. As he has chosen to do this to you it means the relationship cannot continue.

allthingsinmoderation · 21/01/2026 16:20

BadgernTheGarden · 21/01/2026 06:46

Were you together in 2009? I'm not sure condoms that old would be safe to use. He may have found them in old stuff when you were moving and hid them due to embarrassment or he may have thought those will come in useful who knows. I think you have to ask.

Whats 2009 got to do with this matter?

Lifelover16 · 21/01/2026 16:26

BadgernTheGarden · 21/01/2026 06:46

Were you together in 2009? I'm not sure condoms that old would be safe to use. He may have found them in old stuff when you were moving and hid them due to embarrassment or he may have thought those will come in useful who knows. I think you have to ask.

They were still in date - 2029

Placetobreathe · 21/01/2026 16:32

allthingsinmoderation · 21/01/2026 16:20

Whats 2009 got to do with this matter?

OP originally typed in 2009 as a typo for 2029. Subsequently amended.

MayBeee · 21/01/2026 16:37

Be aware that he might be all lovey dovey towards you now ( he's trying to throw you off the scent )

disturbia · 21/01/2026 17:02

He's having an affair or casual hook ups for sex maybe. All the signs point to it....I had that in my marriage ..now divorced. Wish you well.

AcrossthePond55 · 21/01/2026 17:05

@Ohtheregoesgravity

I know others are saying to confront him again but I disagree. You know what you know and he'll never admit it.

So, my advice is to 'drop it'. Go stealth, let him think you've accepted his lies. Then see a solicitor ASAP. I know you've been before but it's time to bring the financial aspect up to date, figure what is realistic for child arrangements, and get any needed papers prepared. Not filed, prepared to file. Right now it's about knowing what's what and being ready to file in an instant should you need to. You don't have to if you can amicably separate, but if not, you need to be ready.

That's the big part of ducks in a row. The other parts are getting important documents and financial records out of the house, or at least photographed or copied and securely stored. Figure a budget for yourself and how you're going to meet expenses. Look around at housing if it's likely you'll be the one to leave. Not saying you should but if he won't cohabiting after you announce the marriage is over can be pure hell. You want to know if renting elsewhere will be an option for you. Forewarned is forearmed, knowledge is power.

If you haven't spoken to a trusted friend or relative IRL, do so. Pick someone you can trust to keep your confidence, let them be the shoulder you lean on.

Once you have your potential future secured as far as you can, then you can talk to him again should you choose to. But it's good to have that brick wall of knowledge and security to lean on when you do.

Remember that this will be a marathon, not a sprint. But you have a reserve of inner strength and determination that you don't even realize is there. Trust me. I found mine, you'll find yours.

Moen · 21/01/2026 17:08

It’s surprising how quickly they start admitting things once you tell them to leave the house.

I would be doing that.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 21/01/2026 17:10

Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 15:30

So many things you have said ring absolutely true! 'I don't know' is not a reasonable explanation, I am not an idiot - I will assume he is cheating. And I don't need to see a smoking gun, condoms are bought with the intention of being used. Thank you so much - it seems simple but I've not been in a state to articulate these things to myself today.

Tell him nothing. Say nothing. Just crack on with a good solicitor and serve the divorce papers. No giving him the heads up on your plans. You take control and drive the divorce through on your terms.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 21/01/2026 17:11

AcrossthePond55 · 21/01/2026 17:05

@Ohtheregoesgravity

I know others are saying to confront him again but I disagree. You know what you know and he'll never admit it.

So, my advice is to 'drop it'. Go stealth, let him think you've accepted his lies. Then see a solicitor ASAP. I know you've been before but it's time to bring the financial aspect up to date, figure what is realistic for child arrangements, and get any needed papers prepared. Not filed, prepared to file. Right now it's about knowing what's what and being ready to file in an instant should you need to. You don't have to if you can amicably separate, but if not, you need to be ready.

That's the big part of ducks in a row. The other parts are getting important documents and financial records out of the house, or at least photographed or copied and securely stored. Figure a budget for yourself and how you're going to meet expenses. Look around at housing if it's likely you'll be the one to leave. Not saying you should but if he won't cohabiting after you announce the marriage is over can be pure hell. You want to know if renting elsewhere will be an option for you. Forewarned is forearmed, knowledge is power.

If you haven't spoken to a trusted friend or relative IRL, do so. Pick someone you can trust to keep your confidence, let them be the shoulder you lean on.

Once you have your potential future secured as far as you can, then you can talk to him again should you choose to. But it's good to have that brick wall of knowledge and security to lean on when you do.

Remember that this will be a marathon, not a sprint. But you have a reserve of inner strength and determination that you don't even realize is there. Trust me. I found mine, you'll find yours.

100% this! Spot on.

UpMyself · 21/01/2026 17:16

@Daisywhatsyouranswer , you asked a question about something, I answered. I'm not attacking you personally. I am not projecting. Please leave me alone.

CosyShark · 21/01/2026 17:18

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Lovelyindevon · 21/01/2026 17:20

"been intimate twice or thrice in that time so I probably deserve it if he's cheating."

No. It takes two to tango or not tango.

Notonthestairs · 21/01/2026 17:41

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Then it might have been appropriate for him to talk to the Op and either work to fix it or begin divorce proceedings.

Gresley · 21/01/2026 17:43

You definitely don't deserve it if he's cheating. Make sure you have your own bank account if you don't already and put money in it while you prepare to separate.

Daisywhatsyouranswer · 21/01/2026 17:46

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I think if both parties agree to celibacy, which this is to all intents and purposes, then it can be a happy marriage. But if the marriage is celibate as it’s simply over, they don’t want to have sex with each other, as they are no longer a romantic couple, then I do agree with you, it’s already irreparable for most. The cheating was simply the final nail in the coffin. Going to therapy for so long is just pretending it’s fixable.

And this marriage has to deteriorated to such an extent the op left the condoms on the bed and didn’t even discuss it.

TheHillIsMine · 21/01/2026 17:49

I understand why you shut up when he started the argument but you shouldn't have. Kept at h8m. Or just file for divorce. Either way, if he's cheating on you he's scum and he's also not reassuring you that all is well and it's not as it seems. So he's no good.

Tooearlytozzzz · 21/01/2026 18:06

It might help if you opened up why you’ve been in marriage therapy for 2 years @Ohtheregoesgravity

pocketpairs · 21/01/2026 18:10

Sex, 2 or 3 times, over 2 years isn't much. So if you've refused to be intimate maybe that's his excuse..and probably one that can be forgiven. Just talk to him.

Jukeboxjulie69 · 21/01/2026 18:13

Ohtheregoesgravity · 21/01/2026 06:17

I've read many similar threads on here, maybe adding another will help develop a data pool for trend analysis or FAQs for other Mumsnetters (ha!) but really, I just need to recount my experience and maybe get some advice specific to my circumstances - even though it's on a common topic.

Several condoms dated 2029, together with individually wrapped wet wipes multi pack - many of which are open - found in DH travel/ work backpack. No open or used condoms, just the wipes. Been in couples' therapy for 2 years, been intimate twice or thrice in that time so I probably deserve it if he's cheating. I just thought he was still in the 'we are working on it' headspace. I was looking for pens or pencils for DS1 (6) homework last night (just moved house - no idea where the pens are yet) not looking for trouble. So I behaved calmly (I'm generally very expressive and emotional)and took out a sample of both on the floor by his bed, where I thought it would be obvious to him I had found them. I know he found them as I was flossing with my back turned as I hear me swearing and him jumping up to move them (DS1 and DS2 (3) were in their beds). The paraphernalia wasn't there when I turned and there has been no mention of it (not how I expected it to play out but determined not to be super emotional, which is what he would expect, and use to deflect from the problem at hand)

A few other things have my Spidey senses going. DH has been hugely and noticeably protective of his phone recently. He's always on it, won't show me me anything on his screen if he is looking at something and commenting on it, would rather send it to me (although he always would turn the screen to show me in the past). It never leaves his sight, it was on a charger close to me one night, next to the night stand with my water on it, I reached to get my water and he was barely awake and managed to sense, wake up and grab the phone as I reached my glass. He was never a fan of handing over his phone to DS to watch something as a distraction if we'd gotten desperate for him to sit still ( I am always happy to, unless I'm out of charge). Now, it is the only scenario where he would sooner make a scene (usually hates this) than hand it over.

He works in the office more, and goes for more conferences (locally but long days or the odd overnight) social meals and drinks after work. I thought it was due to his new job, and my job is the same. The odder thing is how many short notice travel ones he now has, they weren't mentioned to me as an initial criterion for the role.

He's been very amenable to sleeping in the guest bedroom in the last few months too. DCs have been waking up a lot at night and coming into our bed. In fact he's most recently been insisting that they start the night in bed with me while he sleeps in the guest room, citing 'we would all get better sleep'. Which we actually have.

I should ask him outright, about the condoms. Maybe tonight after the kids are down (we may not get a chance in the morning, getting kids ready, and DH is working from the office all day). But he may have gotten rid of the evidence, and he has been known to lie and gaslight in the past to get out of things.

What would you think and do? If he has been cheating, the marriage becomes irreparable, in my view - couples' therapy be damned.

Why r u playing mind games. You’re both adults. You find something suspicious, then you ask him about it, not leave them out for it to play out and then it plays out different to how you hoped. Odd behaviour