I wholly agree with you, Pinenuts.
I find men (probably woman too) are in a hurry to get off the sites and onto our phones; I hate this myself, and when we are having a really good chat and then he wants to move to my device, it invariably falls flat and he starts popping up all day long, interrupting what I am doing and being needy.
Plus, in the case you outlined, he made it sound as if he included you in the 'this site's shit' comment, (like saying, 'there's no one decent on here, is there?') and he showed no social skills in just chucking his number your way. I am a bit formal, and still prefer a man to say something like, 'how do you normally do the phone number thing ... Let me know if ever you want my number' rather than assuming and just chucking it at me when I am quite happy as things are.
I am very quick to meet, so if there is a rapport, I prefer to just meet asap and not dole out numbers until we get to plan date 2.
I also hate phone calls pre-meeting aswell, and I know I am in the minority but getting stuck on the phone with a guy I haven't met yet is awkward and usually ends up with the call putting me right off (though I give in and do it, with warnings that it is generally a no go for me, so if they want to see me, then just meet!).
When on the site, I can really enjoy chatting with a man because it is not putting me under duress to be available all day long when I am working. I can be there when I like and absent when I like.
Even if I tell them, 'I work through till X time,' if they have my number, then they still message, 'Hey! You still working?' It's bloody irritating.
I see no reason why we can't carry on with comms online on a site until we arrange to meet, as I sure do not want to amass hundreds of men on my personal device. Then when I do meet someone, these randoms still keep popping up with their 'Hey, how are you?' when I am with the one man I prefer to be with. And they keep numbers for decades!
A man I briefly dated fifteen fucking years ago popped up on my screen last year, telling me how sexy I looked the night we met and how I did something to him in bed that no one else ever did. Er... okay ...
I mean, I was 15 years younger and I had to remind him we are not the kids we were, and he is now a stranger to me so this was hardly opening conversation.
A PS: OLD can work. I met the man I was with for 14 years on there. We split up recently. But I also agree with those saying the best way is to do something you enjoy.
I recently joined a club which has around 100 men and maybe 6/7 women meeting every weekend, and the men differ each week as the membership is 4,400. Most are single, and probably one reason why is that they are always wanting to be out doing their hobby!
I would imagine I'll meet someone that way eventually if I keep going ... and it has nothing to do with dating.