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Ex reached out after 2 months of no contact with a very polite message and a gift. What's his point?

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OrangeFairytales · 21/12/2025 10:30

4 months ago, on this very sub I shared my painful relationship with a very self-centered man, whom I had been dating for 10 months. A few months later, in October, I was the one who ended the relationship, but it was mutual. He agreed and again played the incompatibility card. Immediately after that, we went no contact.

But a few days ago I received this text from him via WhatsApp, exactly on our 2 month breakup anniversary. Please help me understand what he was trying to accomplish here and why he did that. I am copying his text below:
"Hi. Wow, so much time has passed. Two months. Me being me, I spent more than a month traveling, and after returning I got involved in protests. Over these months there was everything, pain, sadness, resentment, loneliness, and looking back. But in calm reflection, I still think that we did not make a mistake. As I have told you before, you are a very kind, lovely woman. I felt that during our last conversation, you were hurting. And it made me very sad and painful to hurt you. I think we both tried very honestly and searched for shared happiness. It seems that it remained beyond what we were able to reach.
I want once again to thank you for many very beautiful moments this year. For all the communication. For the closeness. And for many other things, which I believe you already know. With the holidays approaching, I want to wish you cozy holidays. I hope that along with the coziness and calm that you will certainly create for yourself, you will also find happy moments with your family during the holidays.
I want to wish you that the coming year will be better for you, that the irritations will fade away, and that the next steps will come together successfully in work, travel, home, and friendships.
For the holidays, I would like to give you a book that I ordered from Amazon and hope will reach you in the coming days. I hope the package does not get lost on the way. The book, which I discovered while traveling, felt very you to me. Maybe you know it, maybe you even already have it, or maybe when you receive it you will not find anything new in it, because to me it really is so you. Or maybe there will still be something new, and I hope it will make you happy.
This gift is not a message, not a hidden meaning. It just felt very appropriate to me, and I wanted to give you something for the holidays. If you decide not to accept it, I think it would be easy to pass it on to someone else or donate it.
Once again, thank you. I wish you happy holidays, and simply, happiness."

He clearly does not want to try again, at least according to me. He acknowledges it was a good decision. But it triggered me so much. Again, he was extremely polite here, like in our entire relationship, said the right things but was emotionless, without really connecting or relating. And a gift? A book that is so me? For the record, he did not even give me anything for my birthday, but now a gift after a breakup to thank me for my time? What the fuck? Why this? Is this his closure? Is he trying to stay the good guy in his own eyes and preserve his reputation?

What would you respond? Would you at all? I feel like I am healing. I do not want him back, but if I do not respond, I will keep thinking about this for a while. If I do, he may want to start talking, and I do not want to open those wounds. Then the book arrives and hits me again with memories. Doh.
Please tell me what you think of all this.

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OrangeFairytales · 25/12/2025 02:23

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 24/12/2025 17:00

When I was in my very early 20s, I was in a long distance relationship with a woman I'd met travelling. We had a great time, and then carried on the relationship when we got back to our respective countries. Later in the year she came to stay with me for a couple of months. It went ok, but not well enough for me to think there was any serious legs in the relationship, so about a month afterwards, I ended it. The video call did not go well, while I'm quite good at saying what I mean in text, I'm shit over the phone or in person. She god very upset and things ended badly

This niggled at me for months, as I had cared about her a great deal and didn't want to see her unhappy. So one night I decided to send her an email. I could tell her how much she meant to me, that I hoped she was happy, I could apologise for my part in why things didn't go terrifically while she was staying.

I got a three word reply back. "That really hurt". In that moment I realised that I'd fucked up. I'd only sent that email because I wanted to get some stuff off my chest. Because I didn't want to feel bad about things, and because I didn't want her to remember me badly. So I'd sent a message that was entirely likely to hurt her, for my own benefit.

In short, I was a bell end. My only slight saving grace was that I'd realised I was a bell end at 22.

@OrangeFairytales . Your ex is in his 40s, and apparently is yet to realise he's a bell end. Please don't waste any more energy on him.

Ugh, thanks for sharing and support :) I also think he just needed to get it all off his chest. But at the age of 40, it's best to play with a diary a little. Or write a letter and never really send it, burn it or torn it. But he somehow decided to send it.

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OrangeFairytales · 25/12/2025 02:27

JFDIYOLO · 25/12/2025 01:02

Love, you've gone down a real rabbit hole over him the last few days, haven't you? He's clambered rent free back into your head and he's now making a mess. Don't let him fuck up your Christmas.

Thanks, trying my best not to think about him :) But indeed, I'd been doing relatively well not thinking about him at all... and then I received that damn message.

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CarrierbagsAndPJs · 25/12/2025 02:31

OrangeFairytales · 24/12/2025 13:51

I have to admit I was doing quite well, but receiving that message and being now at my parents place for Christmas (they live nearby my ex) brought me some unwanted memories. Just hoping to survive coming days...

And that is why he did it.

I would not reply at all. Ever.

You might think a reply to tell him what you think of his behaviour would make him feel bad but it wouldn't. He would just read it and know you were thinking about him. Just block him. This has ruined your last few days and was conpletely in your control.

OrangeFairytales · 25/12/2025 09:46

CarrierbagsAndPJs · 25/12/2025 02:31

And that is why he did it.

I would not reply at all. Ever.

You might think a reply to tell him what you think of his behaviour would make him feel bad but it wouldn't. He would just read it and know you were thinking about him. Just block him. This has ruined your last few days and was conpletely in your control.

He's already blocked.

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treesandsun · 26/12/2025 00:31

His whole message was entirely cringeworthy and I felt embarrassed for him. He seem to think he's some sort of a legend in his own lunchtime pontificating about what sort of person he is. You ended things with him, he seems to be trying to reframe the narrative so it's fits in with I'm just so unique and so special impression of himself. I wonder what the book is that he want to send ?I imagine it's something totally wanky.

Sally2791 · 26/12/2025 00:39

Weird man keeping options open.

Radiosn · 26/12/2025 00:54

Sally2791 · 26/12/2025 00:39

Weird man keeping options open.

Exactly my thought.

Creepy narcissistic bore trying to keep his options open.

OrangeFairytales · 26/12/2025 10:58

treesandsun · 26/12/2025 00:31

His whole message was entirely cringeworthy and I felt embarrassed for him. He seem to think he's some sort of a legend in his own lunchtime pontificating about what sort of person he is. You ended things with him, he seems to be trying to reframe the narrative so it's fits in with I'm just so unique and so special impression of himself. I wonder what the book is that he want to send ?I imagine it's something totally wanky.

Haven't received it yet or maybe it's already arrived. But I'm not at home for the holidays, so no clue. If/when it arrives, I'll let you know in case I decide to open it... Don't know yet.

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CarrierbagsAndPJs · 26/12/2025 11:00

OrangeFairytales · 26/12/2025 10:58

Haven't received it yet or maybe it's already arrived. But I'm not at home for the holidays, so no clue. If/when it arrives, I'll let you know in case I decide to open it... Don't know yet.

certainly do not let him know. Do not acknowledge at all.

OrangeFairytales · 26/12/2025 11:53

treesandsun · 26/12/2025 00:31

His whole message was entirely cringeworthy and I felt embarrassed for him. He seem to think he's some sort of a legend in his own lunchtime pontificating about what sort of person he is. You ended things with him, he seems to be trying to reframe the narrative so it's fits in with I'm just so unique and so special impression of himself. I wonder what the book is that he want to send ?I imagine it's something totally wanky.

To be honest, I'm quite curious about the book. He's quite into deep philosophical books himself, not much into anything cheesy, so I don't think it's a self-help. Don't want to read it, but perhaps just to open out of curiosity... if it arrives.

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OrangeFairytales · 26/12/2025 11:54

Sally2791 · 26/12/2025 00:39

Weird man keeping options open.

Not sure, he was very clear that when he reflects about everything what's happened, he thinks we didn't make a mistake (breaking up). So that's why his message was so confusing.

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bohemianwrapsody · 26/12/2025 12:56

OrangeFairytales · 26/12/2025 11:53

To be honest, I'm quite curious about the book. He's quite into deep philosophical books himself, not much into anything cheesy, so I don't think it's a self-help. Don't want to read it, but perhaps just to open out of curiosity... if it arrives.

There's no book. He's banking on your curiosity, whether that leads to a reply or just him filling your head over Christmas. Just the thought of that will have given him an ego boost. The guy is a textbook narcissist. Don't reply and ensure you have him blocked on all platforms.

OrangeFairytales · 27/12/2025 00:03

bohemianwrapsody · 26/12/2025 12:56

There's no book. He's banking on your curiosity, whether that leads to a reply or just him filling your head over Christmas. Just the thought of that will have given him an ego boost. The guy is a textbook narcissist. Don't reply and ensure you have him blocked on all platforms.

He's been blocked, although I don't think he'd make an attempt to contact again. His sense of pride is way too high. In the past, after a convict it was me who always started talking first, he was always the one ignoring and withdrawing.

About the book, I think I might have received one. But I will only see that after the New Year when I fly back home. On the other hand, I wish there was no book so it won't make my healing worse.

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Geeseinarowhonk · 27/12/2025 11:47

Honestly OP, if there's a book, it's not worth the damaging headspace it's going to take up by opening it. It's not going to be titled, "Why I'm a narcissistic navel-gazing bellend and how I treated OrangeFairytales badly."

He is already under your skin by his round-robin message, probably sent to a number of recipients and tweaked just enough so that it was personal to the intended.

Protect your peace, if there is a parcel there, don't open it, nothing good will come of it. Men like this know exactly how to worm their way into your thoughts, give yourself the gift of not giving him any more attention that he wants.

OrangeFairytales · 27/12/2025 13:57

Geeseinarowhonk · 27/12/2025 11:47

Honestly OP, if there's a book, it's not worth the damaging headspace it's going to take up by opening it. It's not going to be titled, "Why I'm a narcissistic navel-gazing bellend and how I treated OrangeFairytales badly."

He is already under your skin by his round-robin message, probably sent to a number of recipients and tweaked just enough so that it was personal to the intended.

Protect your peace, if there is a parcel there, don't open it, nothing good will come of it. Men like this know exactly how to worm their way into your thoughts, give yourself the gift of not giving him any more attention that he wants.

Thanks, I definitely should. And still, in my naïve head and empathetic heart, I can’t help but feel that maybe, just maybe, he’s working on himself and could change. I know that’s almost certainly not true, which is why I call these thoughts naïve myself.

This has been the strangest Christmas I’ve ever had. Today, I also attended the funeral of a relative. These past days have felt empty, hopeless, and incredibly heavy. I’m grateful to everyone who has responded to this thread.

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dailyconniptions · 27/12/2025 14:01

Stop with the 'reaching out'. Idiotic phrase. He's just messaged you, and he sounds like a dick.

OrangeFairytales · 28/12/2025 13:03

Lagals · 22/12/2025 01:18

I had something similar with an ex a while back except he actually faded me out instead of just acknowledging the relationship was over - which I had tried to do. But he had preferred to avoid the conversation and just quietly drift away.

2 months later he popped up saying “hey how are you holding up.”

It was the strangest message, despite being so short the wording was as if he thought I was suffering by not talking to him or something. Anyway I didn’t reply and I haven’t heard from him since.

I totally resonate with the idea of thinking you could be friends but then realising how self absorbed and selfish the guy is!

Anyway he’s now a distant memory and yours will be soon too.

You're right. When we were breaking up, I asked him whether he wants to stay in touch. We both then agreed that when we heal, it may be a good idea because we cared for each other as people.

Now, as more than 2 months have passed, I am unsure. First, I don't feel healed fully yet. That's why his message was so destabilising, and the more times I read it, the colder and more impersonal it sounded to me, the more full of himself, even that gift in essence was about him and not for me. It reopened my wounds because in that very relationship I wanted to actually relate to him, connect, speak from heart to heart and got a bunch of conversations and discussions about work, careers or academia (interesting and stimulating though, but have nothing to do with emotional intimacy), selfish sex and such.

I don't know whether I'd be able to maintain a friendship with a person like him. I'm not sure whether he's ever cared for me as person...

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ForZanyAquaViewer · 28/12/2025 13:07

OrangeFairytales · 28/12/2025 13:03

You're right. When we were breaking up, I asked him whether he wants to stay in touch. We both then agreed that when we heal, it may be a good idea because we cared for each other as people.

Now, as more than 2 months have passed, I am unsure. First, I don't feel healed fully yet. That's why his message was so destabilising, and the more times I read it, the colder and more impersonal it sounded to me, the more full of himself, even that gift in essence was about him and not for me. It reopened my wounds because in that very relationship I wanted to actually relate to him, connect, speak from heart to heart and got a bunch of conversations and discussions about work, careers or academia (interesting and stimulating though, but have nothing to do with emotional intimacy), selfish sex and such.

I don't know whether I'd be able to maintain a friendship with a person like him. I'm not sure whether he's ever cared for me as person...

Stop rereading it. Stop writing essays about him. Stop obsessing. Stop giving this idiot so much head space.

Delete the message. Bin the book if and when it arrives. In the nicest possible way, you need to pull yourself together and get on with it.

OrangeFairytales · 28/12/2025 13:14

ForZanyAquaViewer · 28/12/2025 13:07

Stop rereading it. Stop writing essays about him. Stop obsessing. Stop giving this idiot so much head space.

Delete the message. Bin the book if and when it arrives. In the nicest possible way, you need to pull yourself together and get on with it.

I don't read it anymore, read it a couple of times on a day I've received the message.

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ForZanyAquaViewer · 28/12/2025 13:18

OrangeFairytales · 28/12/2025 13:14

I don't read it anymore, read it a couple of times on a day I've received the message.

Excellent. And the rest?

OrangeFairytales · 28/12/2025 14:53

ForZanyAquaViewer · 28/12/2025 13:18

Excellent. And the rest?

The rest is quite difficult. I meet with friends, engage in my hobbies, meet with relatives in these days, do sports, go for walks, but still I do think about the relationship sometimes. Not just him, the relationship and what it represented in my head or what I hoped for...

I don't know anything about the book either because I'm now at my parents place for Christmas vacation.

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OrangeFairytales · 15/01/2026 19:27

A lot of you asked what kind of book it was, so I finally got the courage to open my post box, and now I know. And yeah, it confused the hell out of me even more.

The book which he thinks is so me is this one :
LOVE IS IN SMALL THINGS BY PUUUNG, an illustrated love story
It is basically full of illustrations of a couple in love, sharing their everyday moments. I still have not replied to his message (and he's blocked on my WhatsApp). I'm just really confused why the hell he sent me this book which is essentially a love story after a break up, while accepting that we broke up for a reason, mainly because he was extremely emotionally unavailable, and that was not a hidden message or an invitation. And then he sends me a freaking book about a couple being in love. What was he trying to accomplish here? I'm not planning to respond, by the way. Just sharing with you because I promised to share when I open my post box.

Oh, and after he sent me the message and the book, I found out he was active on Tinder, already looking for a new “long term relationship.” I also saw on Instagram that he was celebrating his ex wife’s birthday. I do not think they got back together, since they also divorced because of “incompatibility,” but they are still in contact. As if he wants to keep women he was 'incompatible' with around for some reason.

Love Is In Small Things Volume 1 – Puuung Book

Discover Puuung’s beloved first illustration book, filled with 100 heartwarming scenes that celebrate everyday moments of love. A gentle reminder that love is found in the little things.

https://puuung1.com/products/love-is-in-small-things-volume-1-puuung-book

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TheMorgenmuffel · 15/01/2026 21:21

Urgh. He's a bellend, it seems.

SirChenjins · 15/01/2026 21:33

Oh dear lord - what a prize tit he is 🤣

OrangeFairytales · 15/01/2026 21:52

SirChenjins · 15/01/2026 21:33

Oh dear lord - what a prize tit he is 🤣

Yeah, the message itself was strange, and the choice of book even stranger.

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