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H has been lying for months, What now?

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Lostthewiseolive · 05/12/2025 22:04

Long story but I have no idea where to turn and what to do next.
H and I have been together years and have 4 DCs. H is autistic which may have an influence on his behaviour here

It started a couple of months ago, my friend saw him at a coffee shop. She mentioned it too me in passing like 'Oh it was nice to bump into him kindof way' but he should have been in work. I asked him about this and he initially said he was on a lunch break. I pointed out this seemed unlikely given his work is 30 mins away from this shop and he passes other shops on the way. He stormed off saying I shouldn't accuse him of lying. Then came back a few hours later saying he was sorry and he was planning my Xmas present. This seemed odd as well as we normally keep gifts casual but can't argue with a present and he seemed genuine and I had no reason not to trust him.

His work xmas do is normally the end of November as they are busy in December. Normally we always go together. I asked him about it and he said there wasn't one this year. Then a couple of weekends ago I'm on social media and I can see pictures of the Xmas party. I asked H about it and he got upset and said that he chose not to go cause he is being bullied by people in work.
I was obviously very upset for him, comforted him, and asked him why he hadn't mentioned it sooner. He said he was worried I'd cause drama or get involved. Which again was odd cause I'm not that type of person. But he said I'd gone into school to sort out some problems our DC had been having. But again I just spoke to the class teacher once it there was no drama. But he insisted and he was so upset I just let it go and comforted him.

Then my friend from the coffee shop story messaged me to say she's sorry to tell me this, but she had been seeing H in a cafe on and off for the last couple of weeks. She took some pictures as proof and they were from various times of day. Again when he should have been working. She was worried that maybe he was meeting someone else but hadn't seen him with anyone. Just sitting by himself.

I confronted him and he broke down saying he had lost his job a few months ago. He was bullied out by some of his colleagues, and he was too embarrassed to tell me. That he thought he get a new job easily but couldn't find one and then he was worried that if I found out he'd been lying for so long I would leave him. That he has been paying the bills from his personal savings so I wouldn't notice a difference.
I was upset he felt he couldn't tell me and that he had lied for so long but I also felt so bad for him. He was so upset.
So I asked him to promise me that he was telling me the whole truth. That I will be upset if he is lying to me again. He swore that this was the whole truth, he was very sorry. So I agreed that we would work through this together as team.

Last night I was doing some shopping and I bumped into H s old manager. He asked how H was getting on and then said how sorry he was for what happened but his hands were tied. I said I was a bit disappointed. H was a loyal worker for him for years, and it was a shame others had spoiled it.
He looked really put out and said that he had done all he could for H and I should be glad they didn't involve the police. I asked what he meant, and he then got all awkward and refused to elaborate.

So I went home and told H I had seen his ld manager and he has told me everything so he had better tell me his side of the story now. So he broke down and told me that actually he had been fired. That he had been caught stealing money from the company. Luckily, it was just a small amount, so they just fired him and didn't involve the police. But he admitted that it was just a test and had he not been caught he would have stolen more. He started buying stuff on his online games he plays and he got addicted to getting just one more power up or one more thing.

He started really cutting into his savings doing i so he started investing in stocks to make some cash to replace what he took. Initially this went really well and he made a fair amount of money that he used to refill his savings and buy his game things. But then he made a mistake. Tried to cover it by using his savings to buy more shares. That didn't work so he tried to invest in various things which also didn't work. So he tried to steal from work basically because he assumed he would get away with it because he is clever.
Then he got caught and lost his job and has been lying about it for months. He can't get a job in his current field because its a close community and everyone local knows what he did. But he struggling to find a job that he 'wants' to work.

I was so upset both by what he has done and all the lying. He has been lying to me for months. So I told him to leave so I can have some space.
He was upset begging me not to make him leave, he is so sorry he can change etc. I told him to go and he eventually went to his mums.

Since then he has been messaging and calling nonstop begging me to forgive him. Saying he will never lie again. He loves me so much. He doesn't know how he will live without me. I replied once telling him to give me space and I won't be replying till I've had time to think. But he keeps going, and now his mum is getting involved messaging me begging me to see it from his side. He is so sorry that I can't keep him away from the kids at this time of year.

I don't know what to do. My heart wants to just let him home but at the same time I know he has betrayed me. He lied to me for months and I can't see how I will trust him again. I feel sick when I think about it, how could he lie to me for so long. He's sorry now but if I hadn't bumped into his manager I'd still be thinking he was a victim of some awful bullying. He promised to my face there was nothing else and I just can't see how we can come back from that.

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INeedAnotherName · 05/12/2025 23:08

He's a constant liar.
He's a thief.
He's a gambling addict.

None of those attributes can be waved away by him saying he loves you. This is him - untrustworthy, unreliable and not a supportive partner.

Their routine will be mostly the same though
Despite him not being around the DC will not be affected by his absence. Let that sink in for a minute and then ask yourself why that is. Don't be a mug OP and use this crisis for a substantial shift in yourself, you deserve so much more than this.

UncertainPerson · 05/12/2025 23:15

Stealing wow, I’m so sorry, what a shock for you. Are you sure he hasn’t stacks of debt in his name? That would be a dealbreaker for me also. The dishonesty is staggering.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 05/12/2025 23:17

You can't ever trust him again. About anything. You therefore cannot come back from this.

He risked the home over his children's heads and the food on their table when he stole from his former employer. Autism doesn't excuse this. I am autistic, and I am telling you that autism doesn't excuse this.

MCF86 · 05/12/2025 23:19

INeedAnotherName · 05/12/2025 23:08

He's a constant liar.
He's a thief.
He's a gambling addict.

None of those attributes can be waved away by him saying he loves you. This is him - untrustworthy, unreliable and not a supportive partner.

Their routine will be mostly the same though
Despite him not being around the DC will not be affected by his absence. Let that sink in for a minute and then ask yourself why that is. Don't be a mug OP and use this crisis for a substantial shift in yourself, you deserve so much more than this.

That is a very good point!
If him being gone isn't even making things more difficult day to day, what would be the point in living with the constant fear he's lying and racking up debts you could be liable for?!

RightSheSaid · 05/12/2025 23:21

He's a gambler. He's thief. He's a liar. You can't trust him. You would have never know the truth if the universe hadn't found a way. This is your sign to get out.

MedievalNun · 05/12/2025 23:26

I think the line that really stood out for me, and one you need to consider, was that he would have carried on had he not been caught Let that sink in. He was prepared to steal to feed his habit and saw nothing wrong in it. This could have had serious repercussions, including prison for him and loss of the house (if he’d stolen enough & it had to be repaid) for you.

He did not care - at all - about the effect his actions could have on you and the DC. Does his mother know what he’s done? The full extent?

I think the first thing you need to do is to check the following:

  1. mortgage. Is it for the amount you thought? Is there another one attached to the house that you don’t know about?
  2. credit cards. Has he taken one / several out to keep up the pretence of working?
  3. how has he been paying the bills these past months (see points 1 & 2).

I’m not usually an LTB but in this case, I really think you can’t come back from it. As you say, there is no way he will be employed in his field again; nor could he be trusted in any position that came into contact with money in any way. Even operating the tills in Tesco would be too much of a temptation for him. So just what sort of a job could he do now?

You need legal advice, and also complete clarification from his ex-employer as to what he did, as well as help from a financial expert to ascertain for certain what debts etc he’s incurred.

Not what you want in the run up to Christmas so sending a huge hug. Do you have someone close irl that can support you? i have an awful feeling that you have only begun to uncover the truth of what he’s actually done, and you’re going to need support

AnonymouseDad · 06/12/2025 00:00

Wow. That was a roller coaster. To start with i was very sympathetic having worked in the past for an awful company.
Constant threats and digging. Now I know i'm tough. I know I can deal with anyone and stand my ground but constant threats of not just my job but any future job opportunities made me meek and I hated that. They even had someone follow me to hospital appointments and when on one occasion I didnt return straight to work they fired me but knowing it was dodgy they paid me off when I threatened. Six months wage.
Even still I was embarrassed to tell my wife.

But theft. Especially for something like in game items. That's hard to understand. And I am a huge geek and love gaming.

I guess it comes down to this. Can you see a stable future with him or without him. Can you see yourself happier with him or without him.
Can he learn and grow from this?

Don't take advice from anyone telling you what you must do. Just listen to yourself and think. Will I regret this desicion in years to come.

You don't have to make your mind up now and you can always change your mind later.

Best of luck.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 06/12/2025 00:05

He is a liar, a thief and a gambler.

Are you / can you forgive and / or forget all of these in the future.

WallaceinAnderland · 06/12/2025 00:19

Out of all of this, the shock of finding out what he did and being lied to, you have asked for one thing. Space. Tell him if he has any respect you at all, he and his mother will allow you the time to think.

That's all you've asked for and it's non negotiable.

BerryTwister · 06/12/2025 00:21

Does his Mum know the full story?

HelloDenise · 06/12/2025 01:28

He's a thief. And a liar, to enable him to continue to be a thief. Nothing more to it than that.

JustMe2026 · 06/12/2025 04:34

I think this one is tricky it's also very possible someonelse is involved and when he has told you a situation he couldn't control it is possible he has also been used by someone to do something regarding money and it's gone wrong...you need to find the whole story... somehow....the sad thing is because of the theft he will find it extremely hard to get another job now...but it seems like this behaviour is very abnormal and he is trying to protect you or someonelse and you need to get to the bottom of it...the reason I'm saying this I have an autistic son and after months we found out some supposed gaming friends were getting him to send money on a gaming site via game cards etc and promising him alsorts...luckily it didn't get to theft we just suddenly got suspicious as to how he started asking for extra pocket money and jobs to earn it etc...anyway the whole gaming thing we shut down but to this day son still thinks they were nice people yet they were scamming him

Timeforabitofpeace · 06/12/2025 07:11

There’s not a hope I’d live with such a persistent liar. You’ll never trust him.

Linenpickle · 06/12/2025 07:19

No way would I get back with him as he’s been given so many chances to cone clean and not only has he kept lying, he shifted some of the blame onto you. He needs to tell his mum to back off and I’d suggest you get access to all the financials and see a solicitor.

Egglio · 06/12/2025 07:29

The losing job and panicking story I would have forgiven as you did. But he didn't come clean at that point and actually I would doubt you even have the whole story yet.

No, this would be a dealbreaker for me. But whatever you decide to do, seperate your finances as much as possible starting today.

Oblomov25 · 06/12/2025 09:13

No.I'm sorry. There would be no way back for me on this. He lied and lied and lied, again and again and yet again, when given every opportunity. The trust is gone and will never be repaired, nor even manageable.

Ejvd · 06/12/2025 13:53

I doubt that the lying is connected to his autism. You cant trust him, simple. You only get the full truth when theres indisputable evidence presented. And you wont always have evidence. Even if you remain in a relationship, i would divorce him now so you aren't saddled with his future gambling debt, and your kids at least will have an inheritance left from you. Lucky you found out before his gambling spiralled too massively. He's already lost his job over it, dont wait to let him loose your house or whatever would have come next. But yeah, you cant have a proper relationship with someone this untrustworthy. Maybe you could be friends with benefits, as long as you know you maybe cant trust whether he'd tell you about STIs.

Pinkissmart · 06/12/2025 14:00

You only found out because your friend saw him, and you ran into his boss. I’d be surprised if nothing else is hiding

ChristmasinBrighton · 06/12/2025 14:05

This man is not trustworthy. Without trust the relationship is over. 💐

BillieWiper · 06/12/2025 14:21

Well he's clearly an addict. Idk if you call it gambling, but spunking money on these worthless tickets in a computer game.

Honestly I couldn't be with someone who's this untrustworthy.

Lostthewiseolive · 06/12/2025 21:26

Thank you for your replies
I took the DCs to MILs today to see him and I asked him for all his bank details which he reluctantly gave me.
He told me he was sorry and begged to come home but I told him I need space like actual space to think without him and his mum contacting me and while he is giving me that space he needs to think about what has happened and what he needs to do to make it right.
He asked me what he could do to make it right and I told him he had to work that out for himself.

I've spent the evening looking through his bank accounts. His savings are all gone and his current account is nearly empty. I can see that some of his family have been sending him money which he then puts into our joint account so I thought he was covering the bills as normal. Then if he has anything left over it goes on gaming purchases and gambling sites.

I feel sick like how did I not notice he was doing all of this. I must be completely stupid. I just never imagined he could lie to me like this.

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ChaChaChaChanges · 06/12/2025 21:40

So, even now, at what should be rock bottom, he’s still gaming/gambling? He’s an addict, and they’re the most manipulative and sneaky people imaginable. That’s why you didn’t notice. He hid it from you,

He’ll drag you down with him if you let him. Don’t let him.

Mrspatmoresapprentice · 06/12/2025 21:46

Oh no @Lostthewiseolive you aren’t stupid, at all. Quite simply, he’s done things that you wouldn’t even dream of doing. Fraud, theft, massive deceit? Those things are unthinkable for you, like they are for a lot of people. The fact that you didn’t see this? That is on him, not you. He was cunning and frankly very resourceful in his lies, addicts often are. You could not have foreseen this, so do not blame yourself.
Tell the mother to fuck off. Literally that, one message “fuck off” then block.
Then tell him the same. “Fuck off, you lying, deceitful thieving shite. If and when I want to speak to you again, I will let you know. Until then, you would do well to reflect on the man that you are and your own behaviour”.
You cannot fix him op, he has some enormous character flaws which he has to fix himself (but most people just…don’t)
For now, focus on whatever is best for you and your dc.

EnglishRain · 06/12/2025 21:53

He’ll never be trustworthy.

My ex is autistic and also turned out to be an awful liar. I had hoped the autism was linked. He was diagnosed as an adult after initial issues but it seemed to be a personality trait.

Lostthewiseolive · 06/12/2025 22:18

He hasn't spent anything since he told me the truth about losing his job. But he was still carrying on until then. Probably because he told me he was covering the bills with his savings but in reality he had used his money up weeks ago and was covering the bills by borrowing money from others.

I just can't see me ever trusting him again. I feel like he's ruined Christmas I'm terrified that something else is going to come out and we will lose everything.

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