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i(19-NB) messed up relationship (21-M) by misunderstanding a message and then severely miscommunicating what i wanted. do i clear it up? give him space?

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canedenco · 01/11/2025 16:33

I messed up big time, for sure. It had started off with me writing about how I wanted to be more direct to him about compliments and things I might want, saying he looking handsome after we had met up because he says I look pretty a lot. I wanted to match the energy, but I get embarrassed giving compliments easily. I also figure he knows he looks handsome. I was confused at the time why he was writing about being noncommittal here, I was very well aware that whatever we had was non-committal since I'm the same way. I can't do anything official for right now because it makes me anxious and feel like they expect so much more from me than what they actually do, and there's no way to stop the feeling even when I know. I mentioned it once and then never again because I didn't think there was a reason to. I'm thinking I should have told him that it was fine, he wasn't leading me on, that that was my goal as well. But I'm INSANE about people pleasing. That, and I suspect the two Plan-B tablets and my period coming up may have significantly affected my interpretation of things.
Because instead of just clarifying that I wanted the same thing as him, I wrote a wall about how no matter what we are, throughout the indefinite future for however long he'll have me, I want to make him feel as comfortable as possible. That was how I WANTED that message to come across anyway. I said I wanted him in my future guys. guys. I MEANT AS A FRIEND AND A TRUSTED CONFIDANT IF HE WISHED IT. IT SOUNDS LIKE I WANT HIM BAD 😭
To top it off, I then offered some options along with ones that I knew I might've been uncomfortable with. I dropped them anyway because I knew the ones that I didn't want he wouldn't want either, in the hopes that me trying to define how he wanted us to be would make him feel more comfortable. I realize now that I had overthought his message to the point that I completely mischaracterized what BOTH of us were saying. I'm pretty sure he just wanted to make sure I wasn't being led on. I thought at the time that he figured I was confused and I went overboard trying to reassure him, not by stating I wasn't, but by finding a solution to my perception of his text being his confusion of my intentions by giving him options to define what we were. Unfortunately, in retrospect, that made it sound like I want more and inherently expect some sort of response from him or definition for us when that's the last thing I want. I'm taking a break from messaging him so as not to overwhelm him and to give him space. If he wants to message he can, if he doesn't I'll totally respect that. I just feel a bit guilty about creating such a horrible misunderstanding and fear I may have made him uncomfortable, especially because I understand exactly where he's coming from. My past relationship wasn't horrible, but I was severely anxious because of factors in my past that affect my ability to commit. I don't want anything serious. I mean it's not that I don't want it, I do one day. maybe when I'm better. I just don't and can't right now, and he's stated he's the same. I, however, get embarrassed admitting it because of how my ex treated my inability to commit. I have only ever stated it once to him in person. Any advice? Am I doing the right thing by giving him space? I tried messaging him a couple times after and he took well to some and less well to others, and then he started ghosting me so I'm a little confused on what he expects from me, and what he's comfortable with, which was the main reason I wrote that wall of text. I try to match his energy whenever he flirts or comes onto me and whatnot, or when he just wants to hang out for the day, and I love doing it!
To be honest, I was never the biggest fan of romance stuff at the start, I'm terrible at it and I was clear when we first met off Hinge that I was looking for friends. Now I'm okay with it so long as I don't feel trapped but still, I worry I come across as standoffish sometimes, which is a self-esteem issue I have been reflecting on since then to try and help with my people pleaser tendencies to avoid going overboard when I try to reassure someone, I do it with all my friends. I think it makes them feel like I'm walking eggshells around them, like I think they hate me or something when I know they don't. I've grown used to responding like that due to a toxic friendship I had a while back. I definitely feel secure in my relationships, there are still just habits I haven't managed to break away from yet. I've certainly learned from this, though, and I wouldn't repeat the mistake again but I definitely come across as too much in the messages I sent. It's the most I've EVER written to him lol. The only other time I write this much is to my other friends whenever they're in a pickle. I also asked if he wanted me to "still" call him boyfriend which was a straight-up mistake lol I had written something else there originally and cut it out then forgot to fix the text around it. AWFULLLL misunderstanding and miscommunication.
Before this point, whenever he apologized for not responding for a while (it'd be like 6 hours max which is like, a nothing burger LMAO) I'd be like, dude don't sweat it. You don't owe me anything. And that's still completely true. I don't usually worry when he doesn't reply, everyone needs time and space. I am worrying a little bit right now though, because of the conversation we had beforehand. I don't want to lose my friend, but I also don't want him to feel like he has to stay when I've made it sound like I expect something from him. Do I clear it up? Keep giving him space?

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Isayitasitis · 01/11/2025 16:41

Not to be rude but you really do over think!
Paragraphs would help too :(

But from his messages, he's telling you very clearly he's not interested. I don't even think he's interested in being friends.

What's nb? Non-binary?
Anyway I'm a big believer that if a man wants you, you'd never have to wonder if they do. You'd know.

I'd just leave this one to it and not message again personally. It shouldn't be this hard, friends or not.

blacksax · 01/11/2025 16:43

Way too intense and convoluted for a young man of 21 to want to bother with, sorry. He'll just be wanting some fun and some sex.

Hoppinggreen · 01/11/2025 16:45

Poor bloke probably just wanted some fun and he got that

SoloSofa24 · 01/11/2025 16:50

It sounds like there is some stuff you haven't explained, despite that huge stream-of-consciousness post which was rather hard to follow.

What I get from this is: you are very young, not in a great state of mental health, presumably you had unprotected sex (otherwise why did you take two morning-after pills, known as Plan B in the US), and you are stressing out about texts from a man who clearly is not interested in a relationship.

If you were my daughter (you are younger than her), I would advise you to take a step back, stop obsessing over this guy, and try and work out why you are behaving in way that is not helpful to your own mental and physical health.

NotForTheMoneyandNotForTheApplause · 01/11/2025 17:01

Tbh I think that is waaaay too much at 19, I couldn't even read it all

Loosen up and have some fun while you're still so young

You're going to scare everyone away by being so intense

stomachamelon · 01/11/2025 17:26

Give him space. He has said this kindly, round the houses and directly.
You sound like a lot! And say a lot. It really shouldn’t be that complicated.

PractisingMyTelekenipsis · 01/11/2025 17:33

Seems like neither of you want, or are ready for a relationship. He doesn't even seem to want to be friends tbh.
Get some better contraception in place as well.

Pancakeflipper · 01/11/2025 17:40

I think when a "relationship" is causing all this overthinking/double guessing then you need to step away..

Are you seeing a therapist? Might help.

SirRaymondClench · 01/11/2025 17:41

He sounds really nice but he is gently letting you know he's not interested OP.

I wouldn't message him again.
Anxiety is leaping out of your post and you're really tearing yourself in two with the overthinking. 💐

canedenco · 01/11/2025 17:52

thank u guys, and to the ones acknowledging my intentions asw. a couple ppl said i was too much for a romantic relationship and that im going to scare ppl off when i didn't want one to begin with lol. i will take a step back and look for better birth control options, have not gotten therapy for my anxiousness and people pleaser tendencies but i do intend to. :) i'm currently looking for help available with my insurance

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purple590 · 01/11/2025 18:03

Take a breath OP.

You're coming across as desperate from the lengths you're prepared to go to try to be exactly what he wants and how he wants you. Stop worrying about what he wants and just be yourself - he can like it or lump it. Stop overthinking everything and just go with the flow - I can promise you that he's not giving this the headspace that you are.

Take a couple of big steps back, you're way too intense and it puts people off. Stop feeling you have to constantly explain yourself, if he doesn't understand something he can ask if he wants. Fill your time with something other than thinking about this and him, you're giving him far too much of yourself.

Stop tying yourself up in knots, let him make some of the effort - and if he doesn't bother then don't bother either.

Are you ND OP? You sound really lovely but this anxious, intense, overthinking, not so great socially sort of behaviour is pretty typical IME. It also fits in with the NB gender confusion/not fitting into stereotypes too - definitely worth considering whether you might have ASD if you don't already have a diagnosis IMO.

Summerhillsquare · 01/11/2025 18:16

Oh god the Americans are up and about already.

ForTipsyFinch · 01/11/2025 18:21

He’s not interested. I would delete him and stay single for a while.

Ddakji · 01/11/2025 18:23

canedenco · 01/11/2025 17:52

thank u guys, and to the ones acknowledging my intentions asw. a couple ppl said i was too much for a romantic relationship and that im going to scare ppl off when i didn't want one to begin with lol. i will take a step back and look for better birth control options, have not gotten therapy for my anxiousness and people pleaser tendencies but i do intend to. :) i'm currently looking for help available with my insurance

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Don’t forget as well - there’s no such thing as non-binary.

TeenLifeMum · 01/11/2025 18:29

nb but talk about gender specific compliments - handsome and pretty. So confused.

canedenco · 01/11/2025 18:33

TeenLifeMum · 01/11/2025 18:29

nb but talk about gender specific compliments - handsome and pretty. So confused.

i go by anything :3 not specifically nonbinary i just don't really care about what i am, i like leaving it up for interpretation. i probably could've said female in this case since it's pretty clear biologically what i am

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canedenco · 01/11/2025 18:38

Summerhillsquare · 01/11/2025 18:16

Oh god the Americans are up and about already.

god forbid someone get their woke twitter "am-i-good-enough" on 😔 LOL soz ik overthinking is a big problem and stressful for others, maybe it is more prevalent in america but i don't want to feed into stereotypes since most ppl i know here aren't like that. it's just me and i'm working on it :)

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TeenLifeMum · 01/11/2025 18:38

canedenco · 01/11/2025 18:33

i go by anything :3 not specifically nonbinary i just don't really care about what i am, i like leaving it up for interpretation. i probably could've said female in this case since it's pretty clear biologically what i am

You’re talking about poor communication. I think your effort to “not care what you are” is linked to your general approach in life, very confusing on all fronts. The nb people I know choose that because they dislike the stereotypes and feel they don’t fit rather than not caring. As a biological female, I give my gender very little consideration.

canedenco · 01/11/2025 18:43

thank you!! i really will try, i think therapy will help a lot with the overthinking. i'm not diagnosed but i strongly suspect i might be autistic and have adhd since both run in the family.

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canedenco · 01/11/2025 18:47

TeenLifeMum · 01/11/2025 18:38

You’re talking about poor communication. I think your effort to “not care what you are” is linked to your general approach in life, very confusing on all fronts. The nb people I know choose that because they dislike the stereotypes and feel they don’t fit rather than not caring. As a biological female, I give my gender very little consideration.

i'm not trying to be confusing, i just like people being able to see me how they want to. im fine with gender norms, i know theyre present for some and less for others. i personally don't feel like i fit inside them.

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PermanentTemporary · 01/11/2025 18:48

I have (some) good memories from relationships at your age and the good ones were from doing things together, especially from experiencing new things together. I’d avoid the dating focus and think instead about people who want to do stuff you like - gigs? travelling? history? board games? outdoorsy things? Finding friends, essentially. Then you get used to communicating with people in a more positive and less stressful way.

KimTheresPeopleThatAreDying · 01/11/2025 18:49

God just chill out

canedenco · 01/11/2025 18:50

KimTheresPeopleThatAreDying · 01/11/2025 18:49

God just chill out

is it really that bad? i wrote a lot to give as much context as possible, i promise im not freaking out as bad as it seems 😭 most of the meaty stuff's just the screenshots.

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drspouse · 01/11/2025 18:51

Are you ND OP? You sound really lovely but this anxious, intense, overthinking, not so great socially sort of behaviour is pretty typical IME. It also fits in with the NB gender confusion/not fitting into stereotypes too - definitely worth considering whether you might have ASD if you don't already have a diagnosis IMO.

This is what I took from all this: whether you are ND or "just" severely anxious, you need to get to know yourself as a young woman. There is plenty of time to have complicated relationships when you both want something more serious.

canedenco · 01/11/2025 18:53

PermanentTemporary · 01/11/2025 18:48

I have (some) good memories from relationships at your age and the good ones were from doing things together, especially from experiencing new things together. I’d avoid the dating focus and think instead about people who want to do stuff you like - gigs? travelling? history? board games? outdoorsy things? Finding friends, essentially. Then you get used to communicating with people in a more positive and less stressful way.

thank you, but i'm really not focused on dating at all which is why i've been so confused. i told him when we first hung out that i wanted to be friends and after we hung out a couple times he asked me if it was a date, i said sure and it's been chill i guess since until that convo a couple days ago

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