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Ghosted again. Why does nothing ever work out?

57 replies

Forfucksake84 · 27/08/2025 08:42

I've been chatting to a guy for 2 weeks. I matched with him on an app but he happens to work for the same company as me so has popped in twice to see me for 5 minute 'dates' which went well. He seemed very complimentary about me, messaging to say I was 'lovely ' and 'stunning ' etc, and that we should meet up for coffee soon. (It's been hard to arrange a date as we've both been very busy) .he last messaged on Monday to say he'd had a really busy day and was gutted to have missed me and I replied asking if he was still free the following day as I may be able to meet him after all (he'd initially suggested Tuesday but I'd had plans) and he has seen the message and just not answered. Seems very out of character for him as until now he's been messaging regularly, several times a day. He has mentioned that he lives with his mum who has dementia so I considered that could be a reason, but still would have thought he'd find time for a text.
I'm just really disappointed as I thought he seemed really nice and that for just once this could potentially lead to something. Obviously not....

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flossydog · 27/08/2025 08:44

It sounds more like he's bad at keeping on top of replying to texts than actively ghosting. I know I'll sometimes forget to reply to something I've read if it pops up while I'm in the middle of doing something.

Forfucksake84 · 27/08/2025 08:53

He was texting regularly before though...

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MamaElephantMama · 27/08/2025 08:55

It’s all way too casual to be upset about.

toxicjobrec · 27/08/2025 09:06

5 minute dates? yeh i couldn't get too upset over this, sorry OP.

Imbusytodaysorry · 27/08/2025 09:17

@Forfucksake84 lives with his mum with dementia ? He is married or has a partner.

He will be back with all excuses and string you along again . It was easy as you both busy as soon as you gave him a concrete time he got freaked out .

Forfucksake84 · 27/08/2025 09:17

It's more just the fact that it always happens, and that it finds literally impossible to find anyone decent and consistent. Also the sudden change in heart for no reason just really confuses me. It all really affects my self esteem

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MumofSpud · 27/08/2025 09:21

I am in almost exactly the same position as you! I agree that it really does affect self-esteem.
But I don’t think you’ve been ghosted though !

Mumlaplomb · 27/08/2025 09:21

It’s not you OP, I think it’s a sign of the times unfortunately. This man may pull himself together as it’s early days and caring for someone with dementia can be demanding, but try to not over invest in him.

Forfucksake84 · 27/08/2025 09:33

It's not just him caring for his mum though. She also has his dad and a full time carer. Do you think I could have put him off by asking if he was free? As everything seemed fine up until then. It just makes me question and overanslyse everything I say and do

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Mumlaplomb · 27/08/2025 09:34

No OP honestly it’s not you. Give him some space and see if he steps up, if not assume he has communication issues and move on.

Changingplace · 27/08/2025 09:38

I don’t think not replying to one message counts as ghosting tbh, if you like him give him a chance! I often read messages, get caught up in something and don’t reply immediately.

Are you both in work anytime soon? Couldn’t you go for lunch fairly easily?

Changingplace · 27/08/2025 09:38

Double post!

RuthandPen · 27/08/2025 09:40

Forfucksake84 · 27/08/2025 09:17

It's more just the fact that it always happens, and that it finds literally impossible to find anyone decent and consistent. Also the sudden change in heart for no reason just really confuses me. It all really affects my self esteem

Gently, OP, he couldn't have 'popped in' to see you unless you'd given him the information about where you worked. In future, be upfront about wanting to meet in person quickly, and don't give information that will allow someone to have a 'pre-date peek'.

Forfucksake84 · 27/08/2025 09:42

The pre date peeks seemed to go well though. This us what baffles me

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Forfucksake84 · 27/08/2025 13:37

Im really starting to despair that anything will work out for me

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GrumpyInsomniac · 27/08/2025 14:06

If it’s any comfort, 28 years ago I felt like you do now. Nothing ever seemed to work out and I was just utterly over the whole idea of finding a real partner to spend my life with. I’d been through a couple of bad break-ups and felt a lot of pressure to find someone and settle down, and in retrospect it feels like I made some poor decisions and settled for men and behaviours that were never going to work out. So I decided that I was done with dating and was just going to use men for sex but not get emotionally involved because it felt like such a waste of effort.

And you know what? That was fun and a lot less stressful. And the me that wasn’t angling for a relationship and was happy to be relaxed and not let any man feel I was hanging on waiting for his every text was apparently suddenly much hotter and more appealing generally to men.

Then I met someone and knew within about 5 minutes flat that this was the man I was going to spend the rest of my life with. We’re still together, have an adult son. There is hope. But what worked for me was getting comfortable with being me and enjoying my own company, and knowing that my self-worth had nothing to do with whichever bloke I was or was not dating, texting or shagging.

Love yourself first. I know that sounds trite, but any man you get involved with needs to know that he is a choice, and that you could just as easily choose to walk away.

Forfucksake84 · 27/08/2025 14:14

GrumpyInsomniac · 27/08/2025 14:06

If it’s any comfort, 28 years ago I felt like you do now. Nothing ever seemed to work out and I was just utterly over the whole idea of finding a real partner to spend my life with. I’d been through a couple of bad break-ups and felt a lot of pressure to find someone and settle down, and in retrospect it feels like I made some poor decisions and settled for men and behaviours that were never going to work out. So I decided that I was done with dating and was just going to use men for sex but not get emotionally involved because it felt like such a waste of effort.

And you know what? That was fun and a lot less stressful. And the me that wasn’t angling for a relationship and was happy to be relaxed and not let any man feel I was hanging on waiting for his every text was apparently suddenly much hotter and more appealing generally to men.

Then I met someone and knew within about 5 minutes flat that this was the man I was going to spend the rest of my life with. We’re still together, have an adult son. There is hope. But what worked for me was getting comfortable with being me and enjoying my own company, and knowing that my self-worth had nothing to do with whichever bloke I was or was not dating, texting or shagging.

Love yourself first. I know that sounds trite, but any man you get involved with needs to know that he is a choice, and that you could just as easily choose to walk away.

I have considered being like this? Ultimately I do want a relationship but it literally seems IMPOSSIBLE to find these days. I'm 40 and have 2 children so I'm not looking for someone to have a family with or even live with. Just someone nice snd reliable to spend my free time with. I really don't want to grow old alone. I miss companionship and connection. But maybe I should think along the lines of just sex because then at least there are no expectations...?. It's all just such a headfuck and I'm so fed up with it

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Mumlaplomb · 27/08/2025 14:42

I think OP that grumpy is saying to invest in yourself and not over invest in these men at the early stages. Then you can be discerning about who you decide you may want to take things further with.

iamnotalemon · 27/08/2025 14:43

Forfucksake84 · 27/08/2025 09:42

The pre date peeks seemed to go well though. This us what baffles me

A pre date peek? This is a bit weird. where were they and why only for 5 minutes and not a proper date?

(Online dating is brutal and it’s hard not to let it affect you - I’m envious of people where they can brush it off)

BrentfordForever · 27/08/2025 14:46

Forfucksake84 · 27/08/2025 13:37

Im really starting to despair that anything will work out for me

Don’t let this affect you!!

you do have to go through many frogs, no way around this!

forget him, off to the next one !

GrumpyInsomniac · 27/08/2025 14:46

I absolutely hear you. I think that if I were single again, I would be using a modified strategy from back when, so essentially hoping for the best but planning for the worst.

In concrete terms, that would mean working out what I needed in my life in order to be happy if there were no men on the planet. I would construct a life for myself where I was fulfilled, had company when I wanted it, for example by finding sociable activities, and where I was happy enough in myself to continue that way indefinitely. Where a man would be a nice extra, but not the main focus. It might take some therapy or counselling to work some of that out, but I would get there. And the chances are that in the process of doing all that, I’d meet someone who had similar interests and aspirations. So maybe do more of what you enjoy and you’ll find someone who wants to enjoy those things with you.

Companionship and connection also don’t have to come from a man. I look at my mum, who is a widow, and she is not lacking for either. My parents split when they were in their late thirties, and Mum ultimately decided to use that time to do something she really wanted to do for herself while she had no bloke and her kids had left home. She went off volunteering in Africa, and it’s only by chance that she eventually met my stepdad in that period. She wasn’t actively looking, and in fact by that point it wasn’t even convenient, but she was so much herself that she was absolutely bloody magnetic to be around. She had strong female friendships that sustained her, and my stepdad essentially proved to her that he would be a positive presence in her life.

She’s now in her late seventies and has friends and activities where she connects with other people regularly, as well as having my brother and I. There is a widower a few doors down from her who has rather clumsily indicated that he would like a relationship, but she’s gently pushed back on that because she’s happy with the life she has, even living on her own. She chooses when to seek company and when not.

I guess I’m lucky that she is such a positive role model of how, even when your husband has essentially run off with his secretary and been a shit, and given a massive blow to your self-confidence, you can go on to live a happier life of your own choosing, unfettered by a man who has to be the main character instead of an actual partner. In those years after the split, she always said she was done with men and would never remarry, so she was going to build the life she wanted. It has served her well and also led her to the love of her life, my late stepdad.

So whether you think in terms of just sex/FWB, or deciding to create a life that makes you happy and fulfilled, there is likely someone out there that will go out of their way to prove to you that they deserve to be in your life. You’ve just not yet met them.

Forfucksake84 · 27/08/2025 15:36

iamnotalemon · 27/08/2025 14:43

A pre date peek? This is a bit weird. where were they and why only for 5 minutes and not a proper date?

(Online dating is brutal and it’s hard not to let it affect you - I’m envious of people where they can brush it off)

It's because we work at the same company and he only had 5 minutes to pop in as we were both busy. We hadn't got round to arranging an actual date at that point

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Sweetbeans · 27/08/2025 15:38

I hear you, OP. I’ve been dating a long time. I have high standards. And it’s abysmal out there. Just gotta keep going. Take breaks when you need to. Fill your life with good and happy people and things. But I get it - it’s tough out there. Sending warm wishes.

Forfucksake84 · 27/08/2025 15:40

And yes I wish I could brush it off but its so hard not to take it personally when it literally happens repeatedly. I literally feel like not a single man is looking for a relationship, even when they claim to be. And why be so complimentary and keen up until now and then just ho cold so suddenly?

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RuthandPen · 27/08/2025 15:47

Forfucksake84 · 27/08/2025 09:42

The pre date peeks seemed to go well though. This us what baffles me

I just think it says 'I'm terribly easygoing, and you can inspect me with even less effort or investment or effort than the usual first date coffee, and I'm not expecting anything of you'.

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